Ulster Championship 2025

[illdecide]

Need some help with this one...following on from the 4 step rule did the Ref's not always used to give the benefit to the player who was being tackled unfairly with a few extra steps? or did I just imagine that.

[Rossfan]

They used to give teams 1 point behind with time near up frees for phantom fouls too.

[JoG2]

Derry would love to be as hard to beat in 70 minutes football than the current mess they are in.

On the roundabout or the swings? 🤔

[Blowitupref]

Need some help with this one...following on from the 4 step rule did the Ref's not always used to give the benefit to the player who was being tackled unfairly with a few extra steps? or did I just imagine that.

A ref can recount steps if he deems a player is getting fouled.

[David McKeown]

The steps issue isn't even being refereed consistently in games. Morgan got away with an egregious number of steps through the small square immediately before his yellow. Had consistency been applied that would have been a penalty and everyone would have been up in arms over the enforcement of the rule.

[mackers]

When was the last time Armagh were beaten in Championship football that didn't involve penalties?

It's concerning how long it's taking to get a few of the All Ireland winning team back in the fold, or maybe it's a case that they're timing their run, I hope for the latter.  Some excellent additions to the setup including Callum O'Neill, McMullan and McCormack. 

As against Tyrone, Armagh seem to find a way to let the opponents back into it in the second half, although Gough did give a hand in that effort on Saturday.

Donegal are rightly favourites for Ulster.

Tyrone beat Armagh in the Group Stages in 2023.

A game that most pundits seem to forget about.

Dont know how many times i've seen pundits say Armagh have been unbeaten since 2022 v Donegal in Ulster when Tyrone beat them the year after.

Only defeat in 70 minutes since 2022 and Armagh played half of that game against Tyrone with 14 men.

Then how come the record books have not recorded these Armagh victories?

They have been recorded as draws.....as they should have been. We subsequently lost some of those on penalties which the records will also show.  It's not hard. Don't worry.....nobody is looking to take the 2023 Ulster championship off yis.  The main people that are fixated with this MEDIA commentary are Derry people.

[Armagh18]

When was the last time Armagh were beaten in Championship football that didn't involve penalties?

It's concerning how long it's taking to get a few of the All Ireland winning team back in the fold, or maybe it's a case that they're timing their run, I hope for the latter.  Some excellent additions to the setup including Callum O'Neill, McMullan and McCormack. 

As against Tyrone, Armagh seem to find a way to let the opponents back into it in the second half, although Gough did give a hand in that effort on Saturday.

Donegal are rightly favourites for Ulster.

Tyrone in the group in 2023 and before that Donegal in Ulster 2022.

Not sure how many more we'll get back from last years team, McKay and Rian are longer term, who knows if we'll see them at all.

Of the other 7, Blaine and Connaire Mackin have lost their place.  Not sure what the story is with Joe McElroy and TK, would have expected both to have played more by now. Forker and Turbo seem to have lost their place or aren't 100% fit or both, Grimley the same.

[Armagh18]

When was the last time Armagh were beaten in Championship football that didn't involve penalties?

It's concerning how long it's taking to get a few of the All Ireland winning team back in the fold, or maybe it's a case that they're timing their run, I hope for the latter.  Some excellent additions to the setup including Callum O'Neill, McMullan and McCormack. 

As against Tyrone, Armagh seem to find a way to let the opponents back into it in the second half, although Gough did give a hand in that effort on Saturday.

Donegal are rightly favourites for Ulster.

Tyrone beat Armagh in the Group Stages in 2023.

A game that most pundits seem to forget about.

Dont know how many times i've seen pundits say Armagh have been unbeaten since 2022 v Donegal in Ulster when Tyrone beat them the year after.

They nearly always say in knockout football.

[JoG2]

When was the last time Armagh were beaten in Championship football that didn't involve penalties?

It's concerning how long it's taking to get a few of the All Ireland winning team back in the fold, or maybe it's a case that they're timing their run, I hope for the latter.  Some excellent additions to the setup including Callum O'Neill, McMullan and McCormack. 

As against Tyrone, Armagh seem to find a way to let the opponents back into it in the second half, although Gough did give a hand in that effort on Saturday.

Donegal are rightly favourites for Ulster.

Tyrone beat Armagh in the Group Stages in 2023.

A game that most pundits seem to forget about.

Dont know how many times i've seen pundits say Armagh have been unbeaten since 2022 v Donegal in Ulster when Tyrone beat them the year after.

Only defeat in 70 minutes since 2022 and Armagh played half of that game against Tyrone with 14 men.

Then how come the record books have not recorded these Armagh victories?

They have been recorded as draws.....as they should have been. We subsequently lost some of those on penalties which the records will also show.  It's not hard. Don't worry.....nobody is looking to take the 2023 Ulster championship off yis.  The main people that are fixated with this MEDIA commentary are Derry people.

Must have missed the replays.

Fixated?....just replying to Armagh folk who always bring it up....because you say it it's true, are we living in Trumpland?

[David McKeown]

When was the last time Armagh were beaten in Championship football that didn't involve penalties?

It's concerning how long it's taking to get a few of the All Ireland winning team back in the fold, or maybe it's a case that they're timing their run, I hope for the latter.  Some excellent additions to the setup including Callum O'Neill, McMullan and McCormack. 

As against Tyrone, Armagh seem to find a way to let the opponents back into it in the second half, although Gough did give a hand in that effort on Saturday.

Donegal are rightly favourites for Ulster.

Tyrone in the group in 2023 and before that Donegal in Ulster 2022.

Not sure how many more we'll get back from last years team, McKay and Rian are longer term, who knows if we'll see them at all.

Of the other 7, Blaine and Connaire Mackin have lost their place.  Not sure what the story is with Joe McElroy and TK, would have expected both to have played more by now. Forker and Turbo seem to have lost their place or aren't 100% fit or both, Grimley the same.

TK and Grimley not 100% as I understand. Joe out again injured and wasn't togged for Saturday. Soupy supposedly carrying a knock too.

[Armagh18]

When was the last time Armagh were beaten in Championship football that didn't involve penalties?

It's concerning how long it's taking to get a few of the All Ireland winning team back in the fold, or maybe it's a case that they're timing their run, I hope for the latter.  Some excellent additions to the setup including Callum O'Neill, McMullan and McCormack. 

As against Tyrone, Armagh seem to find a way to let the opponents back into it in the second half, although Gough did give a hand in that effort on Saturday.

Donegal are rightly favourites for Ulster.

Tyrone in the group in 2023 and before that Donegal in Ulster 2022.

Not sure how many more we'll get back from last years team, McKay and Rian are longer term, who knows if we'll see them at all.

Of the other 7, Blaine and Connaire Mackin have lost their place.  Not sure what the story is with Joe McElroy and TK, would have expected both to have played more by now. Forker and Turbo seem to have lost their place or aren't 100% fit or both, Grimley the same.

TK and Grimley not 100% as I understand. Joe out again injured and wasn't togged for Saturday. Soupy supposedly carrying a knock too.

Thought it strange that Soupy wasn't brought in earlier but f**k me what an impact he had. Surprising that Grimley was in the 26 but didnt see game time. Squad depth is being seriously tested but the likes of McCormack and O'Neill are playing well enough that we're not seeing a drop off. Is Joe long term? Assume Ciaran Mackin got bad news as well.

[Milltown Row2]

Need some help with this one...following on from the 4 step rule did the Ref's not always used to give the benefit to the player who was being tackled unfairly with a few extra steps? or did I just imagine that.

A ref can recount steps if he deems a player is getting fouled.

Back in the day, before we had the advantage rule, there was an unofficial rule of allowing a player to take a couple of extra steps when he was being 'fouled' just to see if he could break free and move the game on without a break, it was called the slow whistle...

But that was to be binned (even though it wasn't real) when the advantage rule came out, but it seems for most parts that we now have a hybrid rule where advantage is called and we still 'allow' those extra steps to break the challenge lol..

[mackers]

When was the last time Armagh were beaten in Championship football that didn't involve penalties?

It's concerning how long it's taking to get a few of the All Ireland winning team back in the fold, or maybe it's a case that they're timing their run, I hope for the latter.  Some excellent additions to the setup including Callum O'Neill, McMullan and McCormack. 

As against Tyrone, Armagh seem to find a way to let the opponents back into it in the second half, although Gough did give a hand in that effort on Saturday.

Donegal are rightly favourites for Ulster.

Tyrone beat Armagh in the Group Stages in 2023.

A game that most pundits seem to forget about.

Dont know how many times i've seen pundits say Armagh have been unbeaten since 2022 v Donegal in Ulster when Tyrone beat them the year after.

Only defeat in 70 minutes since 2022 and Armagh played half of that game against Tyrone with 14 men.

Then how come the record books have not recorded these Armagh victories?

They have been recorded as draws.....as they should have been. We subsequently lost some of those on penalties which the records will also show.  It's not hard. Don't worry.....nobody is looking to take the 2023 Ulster championship off yis.  The main people that are fixated with this MEDIA commentary are Derry people.

Must have missed the replays.

Fixated?....just replying to Armagh folk who always bring it up....because you say it it's true, are we living in Trumpland?

Why would there be replays when the matches were finish on the day so went to extra time and penalties?
You're just being a bo**ocks now so I'm not getting drawn into this any further.

[onefineday]

Need some help with this one...following on from the 4 step rule did the Ref's not always used to give the benefit to the player who was being tackled unfairly with a few extra steps? or did I just imagine that.

A ref can recount steps if he deems a player is getting fouled.

Back in the day, before we had the advantage rule, there was an unofficial rule of allowing a player to take a couple of extra steps when he was being 'fouled' just to see if he could break free and move the game on without a break, it was called the slow whistle...

But that was to be binned (even though it wasn't real) when the advantage rule came out, but it seems for most parts that we now have a hybrid rule where advantage is called and we still 'allow' those extra steps to break the challenge lol..

Wasn't there mention of changing from steps to seconds? Would that be easier to police?

In my limited refereeing experience I quickly realised that I wasn't even sure what a step is never mind trying to count them - that said, I did well on the technical fouls, it was my interpretation of the tackle that had the sidelines up in arms!

[Wildweasel74]

Alot handier at 6 steps instead of 4.