Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

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Tyrone Gaa

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on March 25, 2025, 02:16:11 PMDon't think many will be worrying too much about the Jim Devlin or McGarrity  Cup results. Regardless of form at this stage its unlikely we're looking at anything different apart from the obvious contenders in Senior, Intermediate and Junior.

Senior - Errigal, Trillick followed by Dungannon, Killyclogher, Loughmacrory and Dromore.
Intermediate - Eglish, Clonoe, Coalisland followed by Moy, Aghyaran, Greencastle and Rock.
Junior - Cookstown, Clogher followed by Drumragh.

Would you rule Strabane out of Junior? They took Cookstown out in the Ulster League final, surely they might have something about them.
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Goals_Will_Come

Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on March 26, 2025, 11:35:08 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on March 25, 2025, 02:16:11 PMDon't think many will be worrying too much about the Jim Devlin or McGarrity  Cup results. Regardless of form at this stage its unlikely we're looking at anything different apart from the obvious contenders in Senior, Intermediate and Junior.

Senior - Errigal, Trillick followed by Dungannon, Killyclogher, Loughmacrory and Dromore.
Intermediate - Eglish, Clonoe, Coalisland followed by Moy, Aghyaran, Greencastle and Rock.
Junior - Cookstown, Clogher followed by Drumragh.

Would you rule Strabane out of Junior? They took Cookstown out in the Ulster League final, surely they might have something about them.
Don't see it with them. Downward trajectory the last few years and no real injection of new players coming through - highlighted by not much impact on Tyrone panels since Oran McGrath in 2022 and Kevin Nelson on the Minor squad in 2023. Would go as far as to say I would fancy Glenelly before Strabane.

FabrizaoGAAmano

#50207
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on March 26, 2025, 11:42:37 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on March 26, 2025, 11:35:08 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on March 25, 2025, 02:16:11 PMDon't think many will be worrying too much about the Jim Devlin or McGarrity  Cup results. Regardless of form at this stage its unlikely we're looking at anything different apart from the obvious contenders in Senior, Intermediate and Junior.

Senior - Errigal, Trillick followed by Dungannon, Killyclogher, Loughmacrory and Dromore.
Intermediate - Eglish, Clonoe, Coalisland followed by Moy, Aghyaran, Greencastle and Rock.
Junior - Cookstown, Clogher followed by Drumragh.

Would you rule Strabane out of Junior? They took Cookstown out in the Ulster League final, surely they might have something about them.
Don't see it with them. Downward trajectory the last few years and no real injection of new players coming through - highlighted by not much impact on Tyrone panels since Oran McGrath in 2022 and Kevin Nelson on the Minor squad in 2023. Would go as far as to say I would fancy Glenelly before Strabane.

Sorry lads but you are totally overlooking greencastle, good young squad with a bit of flair, few lads back from Australia this year and wont be far away, the experience of the team that won div 1 in 2021 are slowly stepping away allowing young blood to come through. Dont over look the dark horse.

ShoresOfTyrone

Quote from: FabrizaoGAAmano on March 26, 2025, 03:35:18 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on March 26, 2025, 11:42:37 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on March 26, 2025, 11:35:08 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on March 25, 2025, 02:16:11 PMDon't think many will be worrying too much about the Jim Devlin or McGarrity  Cup results. Regardless of form at this stage its unlikely we're looking at anything different apart from the obvious contenders in Senior, Intermediate and Junior.

Senior - Errigal, Trillick followed by Dungannon, Killyclogher, Loughmacrory and Dromore.
Intermediate - Eglish, Clonoe, Coalisland followed by Moy, Aghyaran, Greencastle and Rock.
Junior - Cookstown, Clogher followed by Drumragh.

Would you rule Strabane out of Junior? They took Cookstown out in the Ulster League final, surely they might have something about them.
Don't see it with them. Downward trajectory the last few years and no real injection of new players coming through - highlighted by not much impact on Tyrone panels since Oran McGrath in 2022 and Kevin Nelson on the Minor squad in 2023. Would go as far as to say I would fancy Glenelly before Strabane.

Sorry lads but you are totally overlooking greencastle, good young squad with a bit of flair, few lads back from Australia this year and wont be far away, the experience of the team that won div 1 in 2021 are slowly stepping away allowing young blood to come through. Dont over look the dark horse.

I think its fair to say that Greencastle aren't the favorites for Intermediate this year. Nevertheless, they are a hard team to beat with some very handy players and as a team are usually very well set up with most teams finding them difficult to break down. If they can get things right they could give the League and Championship a run surely but from the outset wont be the bookies favorite.

Sean Og Patriots

Greencastle could give Junior a run next year.
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statto

Quote from: ShoresOfTyrone on March 27, 2025, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: FabrizaoGAAmano on March 26, 2025, 03:35:18 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on March 26, 2025, 11:42:37 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on March 26, 2025, 11:35:08 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on March 25, 2025, 02:16:11 PMDon't think many will be worrying too much about the Jim Devlin or McGarrity  Cup results. Regardless of form at this stage its unlikely we're looking at anything different apart from the obvious contenders in Senior, Intermediate and Junior.

Senior - Errigal, Trillick followed by Dungannon, Killyclogher, Loughmacrory and Dromore.
Intermediate - Eglish, Clonoe, Coalisland followed by Moy, Aghyaran, Greencastle and Rock.
Junior - Cookstown, Clogher followed by Drumragh.

Would you rule Strabane out of Junior? They took Cookstown out in the Ulster League final, surely they might have something about them.
Don't see it with them. Downward trajectory the last few years and no real injection of new players coming through - highlighted by not much impact on Tyrone panels since Oran McGrath in 2022 and Kevin Nelson on the Minor squad in 2023. Would go as far as to say I would fancy Glenelly before Strabane.

Sorry lads but you are totally overlooking greencastle, good young squad with a bit of flair, few lads back from Australia this year and wont be far away, the experience of the team that won div 1 in 2021 are slowly stepping away allowing young blood to come through. Dont over look the dark horse.

I think its fair to say that Greencastle aren't the favorites for Intermediate this year. Nevertheless, they are a hard team to beat with some very handy players and as a team are usually very well set up with most teams finding them difficult to break down. If they can get things right they could give the League and Championship a run surely but from the outset wont be the bookies favorite.
Will be harder for most club teams to setup well and be difficult to break down in the new game.  More defensive minded teams will have to change tact to an extent as going to be difficult to win games by scoring less than 15 points. 

Mikhailov

Quote from: statto on March 27, 2025, 12:05:45 PM
Quote from: ShoresOfTyrone on March 27, 2025, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: FabrizaoGAAmano on March 26, 2025, 03:35:18 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on March 26, 2025, 11:42:37 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on March 26, 2025, 11:35:08 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on March 25, 2025, 02:16:11 PMDon't think many will be worrying too much about the Jim Devlin or McGarrity  Cup results. Regardless of form at this stage its unlikely we're looking at anything different apart from the obvious contenders in Senior, Intermediate and Junior.

Senior - Errigal, Trillick followed by Dungannon, Killyclogher, Loughmacrory and Dromore.
Intermediate - Eglish, Clonoe, Coalisland followed by Moy, Aghyaran, Greencastle and Rock.
Junior - Cookstown, Clogher followed by Drumragh.

Would you rule Strabane out of Junior? They took Cookstown out in the Ulster League final, surely they might have something about them.
Don't see it with them. Downward trajectory the last few years and no real injection of new players coming through - highlighted by not much impact on Tyrone panels since Oran McGrath in 2022 and Kevin Nelson on the Minor squad in 2023. Would go as far as to say I would fancy Glenelly before Strabane.

Sorry lads but you are totally overlooking greencastle, good young squad with a bit of flair, few lads back from Australia this year and wont be far away, the experience of the team that won div 1 in 2021 are slowly stepping away allowing young blood to come through. Dont over look the dark horse.

I think its fair to say that Greencastle aren't the favorites for Intermediate this year. Nevertheless, they are a hard team to beat with some very handy players and as a team are usually very well set up with most teams finding them difficult to break down. If they can get things right they could give the League and Championship a run surely but from the outset wont be the bookies favorite.
Will be harder for most club teams to setup well and be difficult to break down in the new game.  More defensive minded teams will have to change tact to an extent as going to be difficult to win games by scoring less than 15 points. 

You needed more than 15+ points to win games regularly in the old rules. I think it is going to take 22/23+ points to win games in the new rules once every team gets into the full swing of how best to utilise and play the rules.

Goals_Will_Come

Option A for ACL 2026 has been voted through after feedback from clubs.

SENIOR FOOTBALL 2026

Option A – Play 7 Star rounds (2 points for a win) and play 8 rounds with county players (3 points
for a win).
Top placed team win the league. No top 4 play off.
Teams finishing in the top 4 will be guaranteed 8 home league games in 2027.
Relegation – Bottom team down to Division 2. Next two lowest placed teams play off with the
loser going to Intermediate and winner retaining Senior status. No further play offs.

INTERMEDIATE FOOTBALL 2026

Option A – Play 7 Star rounds (2 points for a win) and play 8 rounds with county players (3 points
for a win).
Top placed team win the league and promoted with Championship winners. In the event of a
team completing the double next highest placed team promoted to Division 1.
Teams finishing in the top 4 but NOT promoted will be guaranteed 8 home league games in
2027.
Relegation – Bottom team down to Division 3. Next two lowest placed teams play off with the
loser going to Junior and winner retaining Intermediate status.

GaaGPT

Be alot of dead rubber games near end of the seasons

Onthe40

agree
with the playoff incentive gone... league seasons for many could be over half way through..
would be inclined to keep playoffs but keep top of table outright winner change

RedHand88

Quote from: GaaGPT on April 02, 2025, 11:40:34 AMBe alot of dead rubber games near end of the seasons

Basically for 80% of clubs the season will be effectively over once they are safe. Be alot of cough cough favours dished out late on.
Not a fan of different games having different points at stake either.

Goals_Will_Come

#50216
Very surprised option B wasn't carried out of the two of them. Atleast you play every team twice with a potential 5 points up for grabs and being 8 teams, Leagues would have remained competitive up to the last round or two. Looking at a lot of dead rubbers, favours at the end and potentially obscured fixtures and results depending on your fixtures in the first seven compared to the last seven.

Still very surprised Dromore's motions at the Convention weren't carried as an option. Both read as better options.

Divisions 1 and 2
1. Stage 1 - Senior League to start in April and to be played with maximum of 10 starred games played between April and the end of June, followed by 5 non-starred games (i.e. with county players) to be played after Tyrone's exit from the Senior and U20 All-Ireland Championships. Starred games to carry a points total of 2points for a winning team and 1 for a draw and the 'nonstarred' games to carry a points total of 3 points for a win and 1 for a draw.

2. Stage 2 – Top 8 teams in stage 1 to play off in a knockout format for the league title with the 1st placed team to play 8th placed team, 2nd placed team to play 7th placed team, 3rd placed team playing the 6th placed team and 4th placed team playing 5th placed team, team 1 to 4 having home advantage with semi-finals and final at a neutral venue. Bottom 8 teams to play in a knockout format with the 9th placed team playing the 16th placed team, the 10th placed team playing the 15th placed team, the 11th placed team playing the 14th placed team and the 12th placed team playing the 13th placed team, teams 9 to 12 having home advantage, the winners of these games being safe from relegation, the losers playing each other at a neutral venue with the losers of this second round of games being relegated ....
The exception being in the case of one of the losers in the relegation play-offs winning the championship in which case the lowest placed team in stage 1 not already relegated bring then relegated.

Divisions 3A & 3B
Divisions 3A and 3B to remain

Or

1. Restructure of 4 Divisions – Three Divisions of 12 (Divisions 1, 2 and 3A) and one of 13 (Division 3B)
- League Stage 1 – All teams Play 11 (12 in Division 3B) league games from April to June (without county players)
- League Stage 2 - After the completion of League Stage1, divisions are split in half (with County players available for ALL games). The top 6 (7 for Division 3B) play off for league title in a league format, with the team finishing top being league champions. - Bottom 6 play off in league format to avoid relegation, bottom 2 teams being automatically relegated

2. For the County Championship – top 4 teams in each division (at the end of league stage 2) proceed straight to championship quarter finals. The Remaining 8 teams enter into an open draw in the championship first round, the winners of the first round progress to the quarter finals. The championship quarter finals draw to have the teams in the top 4 in each division (at the end of league stage 2) to be drawn against one each of the winners of the championship first round.

ClubScene13

Not dying about the 2 points for some wins and 3 for others, serious swings to be had depending on when you play certain opponents. Had to change something though, that carry on last year of 8/9 games in August was going to happen every year going forward, probably this year as well, as Tyrone will be playing to minimum end of June if not later most years. Looking at 10 league games and a championship left to play after Tyrone's exit probably had stopped being feasible with new inter county structure.

Was this rushed through, given the county format is changing again next year to the Down model? Would that of free'd up more time for club or is it more of the same?

ShoresOfTyrone

Quote from: RedHand88 on April 02, 2025, 12:42:21 PM
Quote from: GaaGPT on April 02, 2025, 11:40:34 AMBe alot of dead rubber games near end of the seasons

Basically for 80% of clubs the season will be effectively over once they are safe. Be alot of cough cough favours dished out late on.
Not a fan of different games having different points at stake either.

Not a fan of this either, Errigal etc. beating Gortin provided Gortin remain in senior next year and getting 3 points for it won't help the weaker teams case.

tiempo

Quote from: ClubScene13 on April 02, 2025, 02:24:02 PMNot dying about the 2 points for some wins and 3 for others, serious swings to be had depending on when you play certain opponents. Had to change something though, that carry on last year of 8/9 games in August was going to happen every year going forward, probably this year as well, as Tyrone will be playing to minimum end of June if not later most years. Looking at 10 league games and a championship left to play after Tyrone's exit probably had stopped being feasible with new inter county structure.

Was this rushed through, given the county format is changing again next year to the Down model? Would that of free'd up more time for club or is it more of the same?

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