Tyrone County Football and Hurling

Started by Fear ón Srath Bán, April 01, 2007, 05:58:31 PM

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NotedObserver

Galway could expose our weaknesses v quickly. Armagh were able to man handle us and Galway size could do the same. Kennedy needs to get help dealing the midfield aerial threats but it will be a stern test and will show again the level we need to get to

tyroneman

Is Ruairi McHugh anywhere near the senior set up - always seemed to be big potential there?

HokeyPokey

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 23, 2025, 07:08:05 PMAsk the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.


ONeill

Quote from: NotedObserver on February 25, 2025, 09:20:41 PMGalway could expose our weaknesses v quickly. Armagh were able to man handle us and Galway size could do the same. Kennedy needs to get help dealing the midfield aerial threats but it will be a stern test and will show again the level we need to get to

Depends on what Galway want. They might do a Donegal and step off the gas.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

GaelTheGael

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Quote from: HokeyPokey on February 27, 2025, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 23, 2025, 07:08:05 PMAsk the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.


Clifford, Sean O'Shea, Conn O'Callaghan, Shane Walsh, Rian O'Neill, Oisin Gallen, Shane McGuigan.
Would any of the top teams swap their marquee forward for Darragh, I don't think they would.
Mayo are the only top team who haven't a forward as good or better than Darragh Canavan.
You could do this with any of our forwards - McCurry/McBrearty McElholm/Murray Bradley/Basquel McShane/Murnin Ruairi Canavan/Finnerty.
We haven't got an elite forward line when we compare with the other Division 1 teams.

PeterEli

Quote from: GaelTheGael on February 28, 2025, 09:49:44 AM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on February 27, 2025, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 23, 2025, 07:08:05 PMAsk the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.


Clifford, Sean O'Shea, Conn O'Callaghan, Shane Walsh, Rian O'Neill, Oisin Gallen, Shane McGuigan.
Would any of the top teams swap their marquee forward for Darragh, I don't think they would.
Mayo are the only top team who haven't a forward as good or better than Darragh Canavan.
You could do this with any of our forwards - McCurry/McBrearty McElholm/Murray Bradley/Basquel McShane/Murnin Ruairi Canavan/Finnerty.
We haven't got an elite forward line when we compare with the other Division 1 teams.

That is some insult to Andy Murnin.

samuel maguire

Quote from: HokeyPokey on February 27, 2025, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 23, 2025, 07:08:05 PMAsk the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.



You are so f**king deluded  ;D

samuel maguire

Quote from: samuel maguire on February 28, 2025, 12:56:14 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on February 27, 2025, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 23, 2025, 07:08:05 PMAsk the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.



You are so f**king deluded  ;D

Bradley has never done anything of note in a Tyrone Jersey despite numerous chances

McShane had 1 decent season. Decent is all it was.

McCurry decent on his day

D Cav very good

R Cav has done nothing of note in a Tyrone Jersey

McElholm - all this talk and has been poor on each game to date

thebigfullforward

Quote from: samuel maguire on February 28, 2025, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: samuel maguire on February 28, 2025, 12:56:14 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on February 27, 2025, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 23, 2025, 07:08:05 PMAsk the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.



You are so f**king deluded  ;D

Bradley has never done anything of note in a Tyrone Jersey despite numerous chances

McShane had 1 decent season. Decent is all it was.

McCurry decent on his day

D Cav very good

R Cav has done nothing of note in a Tyrone Jersey

McElholm - all this talk and has been poor on each game to date

Jasus you could give them a chance. Wonder what you were saying about Darragh Canavan in his first 2 years with Tyrone. Takes players a good 3/4 years to find their feet

TyroneClubs

Quote from: samuel maguire on February 28, 2025, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: samuel maguire on February 28, 2025, 12:56:14 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on February 27, 2025, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 23, 2025, 07:08:05 PMAsk the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.



You are so f**king deluded  ;D

Bradley has never done anything of note in a Tyrone Jersey despite numerous chances

McShane had 1 decent season. Decent is all it was.

McCurry decent on his day

D Cav very good

R Cav has done nothing of note in a Tyrone Jersey

McElholm - all this talk and has been poor on each game to date


McShane in his "decent all it was" season was top scorer in 2019 and an all star in FF, a year after playing midfield in an all Ireland final. The same McShane who then came back from serious injury to score goals in the all Ireland semi and the final in 2021. Not bad
McCurry decent on his day 😂😂😂
Judging mcelhom on what? About 100 minutes of adult football?


Some sh1t in this forum

cjx

Quote from: TyroneClubs on February 28, 2025, 06:22:10 PM
Quote from: samuel maguire on February 28, 2025, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: samuel maguire on February 28, 2025, 12:56:14 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on February 27, 2025, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 23, 2025, 07:08:05 PMAsk the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.



You are so f**king deluded  ;D

Bradley has never done anything of note in a Tyrone Jersey despite numerous chances

McShane had 1 decent season. Decent is all it was.

McCurry decent on his day

D Cav very good

R Cav has done nothing of note in a Tyrone Jersey

McElholm - all this talk and has been poor on each game to date


McShane in his "decent all it was" season was top scorer in 2019 and an all star in FF, a year after playing midfield in an all Ireland final. The same McShane who then came back from serious injury to score goals in the all Ireland semi and the final in 2021. Not bad
McCurry decent on his day 😂😂😂
Judging mcelhom on what? About 100 minutes of adult football?


Some sh1t in this forum


I don't think the problems really rest in the forwards. Get them the ball and they do well. Great potential ther. What Tyrone needs is a real well conditioned fullback line and a general like Horse at the back. Losing track of forwards (and sleepiness) as they did against Kerry is suicidal and leaving a junior corner back isolated on the best forward in football was a disaster that could have been avoided. Maybe Morgan does not shout enough to his backs but l do not think it fair to blame him despite his ropey kickouts in Pomeroy but that was an awful wind to judge anything in.

thebigfullforward

Quote from: cjx on February 28, 2025, 09:42:09 PM
Quote from: TyroneClubs on February 28, 2025, 06:22:10 PM
Quote from: samuel maguire on February 28, 2025, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: samuel maguire on February 28, 2025, 12:56:14 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on February 27, 2025, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 23, 2025, 07:08:05 PMAsk the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.



You are so f**king deluded  ;D

Bradley has never done anything of note in a Tyrone Jersey despite numerous chances

McShane had 1 decent season. Decent is all it was.

McCurry decent on his day

D Cav very good

R Cav has done nothing of note in a Tyrone Jersey

McElholm - all this talk and has been poor on each game to date


McShane in his "decent all it was" season was top scorer in 2019 and an all star in FF, a year after playing midfield in an all Ireland final. The same McShane who then came back from serious injury to score goals in the all Ireland semi and the final in 2021. Not bad
McCurry decent on his day 😂😂😂
Judging mcelhom on what? About 100 minutes of adult football?


Some sh1t in this forum


I don't think the problems really rest in the forwards. Get them the ball and they do well. Great potential ther. What Tyrone needs is a real well conditioned fullback line and a general like Horse at the back. Losing track of forwards (and sleepiness) as they did against Kerry is suicidal and leaving a junior corner back isolated on the best forward in football was a disaster that could have been avoided. Maybe Morgan does not shout enough to his backs but l do not think it fair to blame him despite his ropey kickouts in Pomeroy but that was an awful wind to judge anything in.
You're right. The defence has been the problem for the past few years now. At least against Kerry they seem to get stuck in a bit more but they still lose track of the runners off the shoulder too often. Something that needs to improve

An Watcher

Poor result from a tyrone perspective with Mayo beating Kerry.  Pressure on to get something out of tomorrow's game now

HokeyPokey

Quote from: GaelTheGael on February 28, 2025, 09:49:44 AM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on February 27, 2025, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 23, 2025, 07:08:05 PMAsk the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.


Clifford, Sean O'Shea, Conn O'Callaghan, Shane Walsh, Rian O'Neill, Oisin Gallen, Shane McGuigan.
Would any of the top teams swap their marquee forward for Darragh, I don't think they would.
Mayo are the only top team who haven't a forward as good or better than Darragh Canavan.
You could do this with any of our forwards - McCurry/McBrearty McElholm/Murray Bradley/Basquel McShane/Murnin Ruairi Canavan/Finnerty.
We haven't got an elite forward line when we compare with the other Division 1 teams.

Why are you comparing individual Tyrone forwards against a selection of inside forwards from other counties?

I'm comparing the inside forwards as a set, you should compare against other counties' sets of inside forwards.

HokeyPokey

Quote from: GaelTheGael on February 28, 2025, 09:49:44 AM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on February 27, 2025, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 23, 2025, 07:08:05 PMAsk the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.


Clifford, Sean O'Shea, Conn O'Callaghan, Shane Walsh, Rian O'Neill, Oisin Gallen, Shane McGuigan.
Would any of the top teams swap their marquee forward for Darragh, I don't think they would.
Mayo are the only top team who haven't a forward as good or better than Darragh Canavan.
You could do this with any of our forwards - McCurry/McBrearty McElholm/Murray Bradley/Basquel McShane/Murnin Ruairi Canavan/Finnerty.
We haven't got an elite forward line when we compare with the other Division 1 teams.

Why are you comparing individual Tyrone forwards against a selection of inside forwards
Quote from: TyroneClubs on February 28, 2025, 06:22:10 PM
Quote from: samuel maguire on February 28, 2025, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: samuel maguire on February 28, 2025, 12:56:14 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on February 27, 2025, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 23, 2025, 07:08:05 PMAsk the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.



You are so f**king deluded  ;D

Bradley has never done anything of note in a Tyrone Jersey despite numerous chances

McShane had 1 decent season. Decent is all it was.

McCurry decent on his day

D Cav very good

R Cav has done nothing of note in a Tyrone Jersey

McElholm - all this talk and has been poor on each game to date


McShane in his "decent all it was" season was top scorer in 2019 and an all star in FF, a year after playing midfield in an all Ireland final. The same McShane who then came back from serious injury to score goals in the all Ireland semi and the final in 2021. Not bad
McCurry decent on his day 😂😂😂
Judging mcelhom on what? About 100 minutes of adult football?


Some sh1t in this forum

from other counties?

I'm comparing the inside forwards as a set, you should compare against other counties' sets of inside forwards.
Quote from: TyroneClubs on February 28, 2025, 06:22:10 PM
Quote from: samuel maguire on February 28, 2025, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: samuel maguire on February 28, 2025, 12:56:14 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on February 27, 2025, 06:51:41 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 23, 2025, 07:08:05 PMAsk the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.



You are so f**king deluded  ;D

Bradley has never done anything of note in a Tyrone Jersey despite numerous chances

McShane had 1 decent season. Decent is all it was.

McCurry decent on his day

D Cav very good

R Cav has done nothing of note in a Tyrone Jersey

McElholm - all this talk and has been poor on each game to date


McShane in his "decent all it was" season was top scorer in 2019 and an all star in FF, a year after playing midfield in an all Ireland final. The same McShane who then came back from serious injury to score goals in the all Ireland semi and the final in 2021. Not bad
McCurry decent on his day 😂😂😂
Judging mcelhom on what? About 100 minutes of adult football?


Some sh1t in this forum


Some people just love to whine and run down players and teams.

McShane only really had one good season in a Tyrone jersey, but it was an exceptional season. I sincerely doubt we'll see him hit anywhere near those heights again, but that and his form since 2019, doesn't change how good he was then.