Premier League 2024-2025

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brokencrossbar1

Quote from: thewobbler on February 25, 2025, 11:22:23 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 25, 2025, 11:15:54 AMFerguson was running Utd on a shoe string in his last few years, the last PL win was unexpected...

Ferguson got a tune out of the likes of a Phil Jones, that's who United were buying back then, not the latest Jaap Stam..

The Glazers have leveraged Old Trafford to the balls in debt, paying only the interest and pocketing the big dividends for years and yes they have put money into players, but the wrong sort of players, fancy dans mostly.

There's no real backbone to this united team.



Mmmm.

My mind might be playing tricks, but Phil Jones was one of the most expensive transfer fees in history for a teenager at that time, and they were able to spend £25m on Van Persie, who had one year left on his contract.

Shoe string?


I recall at the time being gutted he chose United over LFC. He was seen as the next big thing and had all the attributes to be a top class defender. He will be remembered forever for the meme of him heading the ball on the ground...

Milltown Row2

For all their woes they are the 5th biggest at the minute club in the world.. Thats net ;D
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Sonny Joe on February 25, 2025, 12:02:22 PM
Quote from: tiempo on February 25, 2025, 11:41:22 AMUnfortunately the whole affair with the horse has been the ruination of Utd, thats on Fergie

This has been said a few times, would you mind and elaborate for the uneducated types like myself about this ?


Goes back a bit further than a horse.  Becoming a PLC under Martin Edwards the former chairman which allowed any Tom Dick or harry buy shares in the club and in Uniteds case Leeches in the Glazers to eventually own the club. John Magnier and JP were always going to sell their shares for with the biggest profit possible. 
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Armagh18

Quote from: thewobbler on February 25, 2025, 11:22:23 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 25, 2025, 11:15:54 AMFerguson was running Utd on a shoe string in his last few years, the last PL win was unexpected...

Ferguson got a tune out of the likes of a Phil Jones, that's who United were buying back then, not the latest Jaap Stam..

The Glazers have leveraged Old Trafford to the balls in debt, paying only the interest and pocketing the big dividends for years and yes they have put money into players, but the wrong sort of players, fancy dans mostly.

There's no real backbone to this united team.



Mmmm.

My mind might be playing tricks, but Phil Jones was one of the most expensive transfer fees in history for a teenager at that time, and they were able to spend £25m on Van Persie, who had one year left on his contract.

Shoe string?

Jones was big enough money at the time, was rated very highly as well  but injuries obviously fucked him

tiempo

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 25, 2025, 01:11:17 PMI recall at the time being gutted he chose United over LFC. He was seen as the next big thing and had all the attributes to be a top class defender. He will be remembered forever for the meme of him heading the ball on the ground...

Ironically an amazing piece of improvised defending, but he's just too easy to lampoon

tiempo

Quote from: Blowitupref on February 25, 2025, 01:16:29 PM
Quote from: Sonny Joe on February 25, 2025, 12:02:22 PM
Quote from: tiempo on February 25, 2025, 11:41:22 AMUnfortunately the whole affair with the horse has been the ruination of Utd, thats on Fergie

This has been said a few times, would you mind and elaborate for the uneducated types like myself about this ?


Goes back a bit further than a horse.  Becoming a PLC under Martin Edwards the former chairman which allowed any Tom Dick or harry buy shares in the club and in Uniteds case Leeches in the Glazers to eventually own the club. John Magnier and JP were always going to sell their shares for with the biggest profit possible.

Literally sold a money printing machine, bit of a head scratcher alright

Hindsight is 20:20, a dynasty was squandered, it happens i guess

johnnycool

Quote from: tiempo on February 25, 2025, 01:30:06 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 25, 2025, 01:16:29 PM
Quote from: Sonny Joe on February 25, 2025, 12:02:22 PM
Quote from: tiempo on February 25, 2025, 11:41:22 AMUnfortunately the whole affair with the horse has been the ruination of Utd, thats on Fergie

This has been said a few times, would you mind and elaborate for the uneducated types like myself about this ?


Goes back a bit further than a horse.  Becoming a PLC under Martin Edwards the former chairman which allowed any Tom Dick or harry buy shares in the club and in Uniteds case Leeches in the Glazers to eventually own the club. John Magnier and JP were always going to sell their shares for with the biggest profit possible.

Literally sold a money printing machine, bit of a head scratcher alright

Hindsight is 20:20, a dynasty was squandered, it happens i guess

There's no head scratching involved.

The Glazers bought the club by leveraging a huge loan on the stadium and using Uniteds income streams to service the interest and huge dividends to themselves irrespective of performance on the field or even off it.

Not one brass farthing of their own money have the Glazers put into United.

This practice has been outlawed by the FA's owners and directors tests.



tiempo

Quote from: johnnycool on February 25, 2025, 03:25:11 PM
Quote from: tiempo on February 25, 2025, 01:30:06 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 25, 2025, 01:16:29 PM
Quote from: Sonny Joe on February 25, 2025, 12:02:22 PM
Quote from: tiempo on February 25, 2025, 11:41:22 AMUnfortunately the whole affair with the horse has been the ruination of Utd, thats on Fergie

This has been said a few times, would you mind and elaborate for the uneducated types like myself about this ?


Goes back a bit further than a horse.  Becoming a PLC under Martin Edwards the former chairman which allowed any Tom Dick or harry buy shares in the club and in Uniteds case Leeches in the Glazers to eventually own the club. John Magnier and JP were always going to sell their shares for with the biggest profit possible.

Literally sold a money printing machine, bit of a head scratcher alright

Hindsight is 20:20, a dynasty was squandered, it happens i guess

There's no head scratching involved.

The Glazers bought the club by leveraging a huge loan on the stadium and using Uniteds income streams to service the interest and huge dividends to themselves irrespective of performance on the field or even off it.

Not one brass farthing of their own money have the Glazers put into United.

This practice has been outlawed by the FA's owners and directors tests.


Can't say fairer than that

Armamike

Quote from: Blowitupref on February 25, 2025, 01:16:29 PM
Quote from: Sonny Joe on February 25, 2025, 12:02:22 PM
Quote from: tiempo on February 25, 2025, 11:41:22 AMUnfortunately the whole affair with the horse has been the ruination of Utd, thats on Fergie

This has been said a few times, would you mind and elaborate for the uneducated types like myself about this ?


Goes back a bit further than a horse.  Becoming a PLC under Martin Edwards the former chairman which allowed any Tom Dick or harry buy shares in the club and in Uniteds case Leeches in the Glazers to eventually own the club. John Magnier and JP were always going to sell their shares for with the biggest profit possible.

Remember at the time thinking that the move to PLC would springboard Man u further ahead of everyone else in the league. 
That's just, like your opinion man.

lurganblue

I think that result rules Villa completely out of top 5 now and is consistent with their inconsistency in the league all season.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: lurganblue on February 26, 2025, 12:13:26 PMI think that result rules Villa completely out of top 5 now and is consistent with their inconsistency in the league all season.

Only get going for the big teams?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

statto

Quote from: lurganblue on February 26, 2025, 12:13:26 PMI think that result rules Villa completely out of top 5 now and is consistent with their inconsistency in the league all season.
Good result for Palace who are in a really good run of form.  Glasner came in and implemented the 3-4-3 and the players have adapted really well to this system and it suits the players they have. 

imtommygunn

He's a good manager that boy. Villa have had a lot of change this year and Watkins a bit off. Still a decent team but too much flux with them.

Blowitupref

#898
Quote from: lurganblue on February 26, 2025, 12:13:26 PMI think that result rules Villa completely out of top 5 now and is consistent with their inconsistency in the league all season.



Two more games played but only 5 points separate 3rd to 10th it's consistent crop of inconsistent teams.


Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Saffrongael

Or you could argue the teams are fairly evenly matched, teams like Fulham, Bournemouth & Brighton have shown with the right recruitment you can flourish in the Premier League.
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come