Premier League 2024-2025

[Look-Up!]

Be interesting to see when the issue of dividend or dividend freezes come up, will he play similar hardball.

[statto]

Liked the cut of Amorim's jib at the start. Confident, well spoken, on point with the problems that existed and not afraid to give a player the odd dig in the media to whip them in line. But at some stage you have to work with players and protect them. If your only MO is to constantly call them out in press conferences you will lose the dressing room. Has the look of a rent-a-quote about him.

Definitely see similarities to him and Jose although very early to be looking for the sack. Actually reminds me a bit of OGS. The Norwegian liked to suck up to the likes of Keane and Neville rather than protecting his players in the media. This guy seems a bit too cosy with reporters in the press room also.

Latest cuts on the lunches look incredibly petty and self serving. The club is a billion in the red. Wasn't a bit of lunch to the staff got them to this point and cutting it down to soup and a crust of bread will not save the day. Either the books are worse than could ever be imagined or this guy is completely off his rocker.

Two things that crossed my mind in recent days

1. Severe cutbacks as planning for no European campaign next year, stands to reason to some extent but agree with what you said, wasn't feeding staff that caused the issue or removing it that will save the day

2. Could Man Utd be heading the way of Leeds Utd? Unthinkable but so was Leicester winning the league

Cutting food though Tiempo? Unless someone was on the take over-ordering stuff and moving it out the back door, it's a fairly mean thing to do.

Man Utd still have a strong brand and can generate money but they can't be far off defaulting on debt with current wages if they're out of Europe. Relegation destroyed Leeds but back then you needed 40 points to stay up. Utd can count themselves very lucky this is not still the case.

I heard some Utd supporters actually say relegation would be good for them because it would allow them to reset like other clubs have  . It would be catastrophic for them. Bunch of way overpaid flops with no relegation clauses in their contracts and no hope of moving most of them!!

I agree, cutting the food is beyond petty, he's clearly an asset stripping merchant

Would all staff at all PL clubs be getting a free lunch everyday? If it is custom and practice can understand the annoyance at that being taken away and there will be concerns around job security given the latest announcement in relation to redundancies. Would say it is a difficult place to work at the moment. 

[tiempo]

An army marches on its stomach

[thewobbler]

Statto I've no idea about the free lunch for all staff.

But I'd expect that coaching and senior medical staff would be on the same ticket as playing staff ie meals are expected, not even optional. And I'd also expect that kitchen staff will help themselves to grub as needed.

So really, how many people would be left to feed on a normal day at eg Carrington? Receptionist. Couple of security. A few admins. A few janitors. A few groundsmen. Placement students and the like, a few of them. Surely it couldn't be much more than 12-15 people.

The cost of the executive chef won't go down as a result either.

Just seems very odd.

[johnnycool]

Ferguson was running Utd on a shoe string in his last few years, the last PL win was unexpected...

Ferguson got a tune out of the likes of a Phil Jones, that's who United were buying back then, not the latest Jaap Stam..

The Glazers have leveraged Old Trafford to the balls in debt, paying only the interest and pocketing the big dividends for years and yes they have put money into players, but the wrong sort of players, fancy dans mostly.

There's no real backbone to this united team.

[Armamike]

Penny pinching on the staff while they squander millions on overpaid players and managers.  Not a good look and destroys the soul of a club. 

[thewobbler]

Ferguson was running Utd on a shoe string in his last few years, the last PL win was unexpected...

Ferguson got a tune out of the likes of a Phil Jones, that's who United were buying back then, not the latest Jaap Stam..

The Glazers have leveraged Old Trafford to the balls in debt, paying only the interest and pocketing the big dividends for years and yes they have put money into players, but the wrong sort of players, fancy dans mostly.

There's no real backbone to this united team.

Mmmm.

My mind might be playing tricks, but Phil Jones was one of the most expensive transfer fees in history for a teenager at that time, and they were able to spend £25m on Van Persie, who had one year left on his contract.

Shoe string?

[statto]

Ferguson was running Utd on a shoe string in his last few years, the last PL win was unexpected...

Ferguson got a tune out of the likes of a Phil Jones, that's who United were buying back then, not the latest Jaap Stam..

The Glazers have leveraged Old Trafford to the balls in debt, paying only the interest and pocketing the big dividends for years and yes they have put money into players, but the wrong sort of players, fancy dans mostly.

There's no real backbone to this united team.

Ferguson did alot of good things at United but getting a tune out of Phil Jones wasn't one of them.  Joined the club for £17million in 2011 and was meant to be the next big thing at centre half. 

[tiempo]

Ferguson was running Utd on a shoe string in his last few years, the last PL win was unexpected...

Ferguson got a tune out of the likes of a Phil Jones, that's who United were buying back then, not the latest Jaap Stam..

The Glazers have leveraged Old Trafford to the balls in debt, paying only the interest and pocketing the big dividends for years and yes they have put money into players, but the wrong sort of players, fancy dans mostly.

There's no real backbone to this united team.

Surely the manager and football "specialists" were picking the players

Fergie compared Phil Jones to Duncan Edwards and paid a bucket of cash for him ahead of Arsenal Liverpool and Chelsea

Unfortunately the whole affair with the horse has been the ruination of Utd, thats on Fergie

The club is £1.1bn in debt and looking to build a stadium for £1bn - they're walking a tightrope at the moment looking every bit the mess that befell Leeds and Rangers, was due to happen Liverpool and Chelsea at different times but they were fortunate to stumble upon competent investors/management

[Sonny Joe]

Unfortunately the whole affair with the horse has been the ruination of Utd, thats on Fergie

This has been said a few times, would you mind and elaborate for the uneducated types like myself about this ?

[tiempo]

Unfortunately the whole affair with the horse has been the ruination of Utd, thats on Fergie

This has been said a few times, would you mind and elaborate for the uneducated types like myself about this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BBYb3uDcXs

[Sonny Joe]

Thanks very much for that. greed and more gr££d.

[johnnycool]

Thanks very much for that. greed and more gr££d.

I didn't realise Magnier and JP owned almost a 1/4 of United at that time with BSkyB being the main shareholders.

No wonder the hoors were never off the TV.

[tiempo]

Utd had a 25 year window to create what Real Madrid currently are and blew it, that said Madrid went to the wall and were saved by the government so not an entirely organic success either

Look at the comparison between Fergie/Glazers and what Fergus McCann did at Celtic, McCann put the club and supporters front and centre

[clonian]

Utd had a 25 year window to create what Real Madrid currently are and blew it, that said Madrid went to the wall and were saved by the government so not an entirely organic success either

Look at the comparison between Fergie/Glazers and what Fergus McCann did at Celtic, McCann put the club and supporters front and centre

You're saying that like it's the fans that did this. We've been saying this time was coming since the day they bought the club with a payday loan and saddled the debt onto the club at the same time. Every other club would have been bankrupt years ago but here we are and only for Ineos cash injection they would have ran out of money in the last financial report.

Ineos haven't got the decisions right either but at least they've put money in. The Glazers have never put a penny of investment in yet from their pocket. A debt free club now has over 1 billion of a debt and has paid a billion in interest payments in that time.