Teachers get it handy!

[gallsman]

An astute observation. How silly of me not to realise.

[gallsman]

What decade are people living in that they think 30k a year gross is anywhere near a good wage?

Are you trying to trying so say 30k isn't a good graduate salary?

I think it needs to be compared to other occupations.

Say for example, on average, a teacher, an engineer, a plumber and a brickie.

What would each of these be on at, say 24?

And others. Not sure many trainee lawyers or accountants would be on 30k in Belfast.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

I don't think trainee teachers get paid at all.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

In relation to the ongoing ASOS/Pay deal, valid points were made by previous posters.
The overarching issue is that the Jordanstown Agreement is about 40 years old. It needs ripped up and started again.

[gallsman]

I don't think trainee teachers get paid at all.

That's part of their undergraduate or graduate education.

Trainee solicitors and lawyers have (generally) completed their education and are pursuing a professional qualification whilst employed.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Indeed. Teachers on £30,000 a year have completed their professional qualification.

[Sportacus]

In relation to the ongoing ASOS/Pay deal, valid points were made by previous posters.
The overarching issue is that the Jordanstown Agreement is about 40 years old. It needs ripped up and started again.

I'm guessing the bureaucrats have lumped some amount of paperwork and extras onto teachers in that period of time.

[marty34]

What decade are people living in that they think 30k a year gross is anywhere near a good wage?

Are you trying to trying so say 30k isn't a good graduate salary?

I think it needs to be compared to other occupations.

Say for example, on average, a teacher, an engineer, a plumber and a brickie.

What would each of these be on at, say 24?

And others. Not sure many trainee lawyers or accountants would be on 30k in Belfast.

I'm not talking about trainees.

Read it again.

[gallsman]

I don't need to read it again. You just don't don't or can't understand what I'm saying.

After studying at university, solicitors and accountants have to do further study, training or both before they qualify. They have to do years of training and, in the case of accountants, pass exams. At 24, none of them are earning 30k in Belfast.

30k is a pretty damn solid salary for someone straight out of uni into teaching.

[Armagh18]

What decade are people living in that they think 30k a year gross is anywhere near a good wage?

Are you trying to trying so say 30k isn't a good graduate salary?

With tax rates as they are? You'll not be getting rich on it put it that way.

[Tony Baloney]

What decade are people living in that they think 30k a year gross is anywhere near a good wage?

Are you trying to trying so say 30k isn't a good graduate salary?

With tax rates as they are? You'll not be getting rich on it put it that way.

Nobody said it is. COMPARITIVELY SPEAKING 30k isn't bad for someone just out of uni.

[Kidder81]

What decade are people living in that they think 30k a year gross is anywhere near a good wage?

Are you trying to trying so say 30k isn't a good graduate salary?

With tax rates as they are? You'll not be getting rich on it put it that way.

Have some of you lost your mind ? Taxes have been the same for quite a while - EVERYONE pays them. Who said anyone would be getting rich on £30k a year ffs, are you mental ?

As a starting graduate salary it's very competitive.

[ONeill]

To be fair, £30'000 isn't bad for someone getting about 12 weeks or so paid holidays.

[gallsman]

What decade are people living in that they think 30k a year gross is anywhere near a good wage?

Are you trying to trying so say 30k isn't a good graduate salary?

With tax rates as they are? You'll not be getting rich on it put it that way.

Have some of you lost your mind ? Taxes have been the same for quite a while - EVERYONE pays them. Who said anyone would be getting rich on £30k a year ffs, are you mental ?

As a starting graduate salary it's very competitive.

Possibly but more likely just thick.

[JimStynes]

30k is decent for a young teacher just out of Uni. Last year it was only 23k I think so it was good jump in money. The problem is teaching salary goes up for about 10 years then stops. So effectively you will be at the top of the scale in your early 30s and that's the most you'll get until you retire. A teaching salary is decent money. You'll never be rich but you'll not be poor either. A lot of other professions start to leap frog past teaching salaries after about 10 years.