Conor McGregor

Started by lurganblue, January 29, 2025, 02:24:40 PM

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gallsman

Quote from: Main Street on January 31, 2025, 09:08:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 31, 2025, 06:38:00 PMWe're now in 2025 by the way.
The tricolour is the flag of an Independent Irish State.
The existence of said State means people from the 6 Cos. can get Irish passports and can be Irish citizens.

McGregor is still a bolx though.
There is no "can be Irish citizens", those born in the 6 counties are automatically Irish nationals by dint of place of birth and can apply for a passport in the same manner as any southerner.

On McGregor, he's more than just a bollíx, he's a drug/drink addled fascist thug but sure why not   extrapolate those odious character traits to that typical of the "southerner".
 

Well that's not true, the 27th Amendment made sure of that. Jus sanguinis applies.

Examining the point I think you were trying to make though, is that the case, rather than everyone is "entitled to Irish citizenship"? If everyone is automatically an Irish national, presumably the other side of that coin also holds true, and everyone is therefore automatically British too. I remember Fat boy Gavin Robinson tried to claim this and we were all up in arms. Similarly the arguement was at the centre of the Emma de Souza case.

ONeill

Is McGregor still adored by some?
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Wildweasel74

Half of america by the look of it, plus I still say a fair few in Dublin. Was never, what u call a role model, and I suspect he is, what a few of us thought of him, when he originally came on the scene.

Square Ball

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 31, 2025, 10:30:08 PMHalf of america by the look of it, plus I still say a fair few in Dublin. Was never, what u call a role model, and I suspect he is, what a few of us thought of him, when he originally came on the scene.
100% from me, then be just became a complete and utter ballox.
Hospitals are not equipped to treat stupid

ONeill

When he first came on the scene I enjoyed him. I thought he was at the same thing Ali was at, and just slabbering for the sake of ticket sales, then backing it up.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

quit yo jibbajabba

Quote from: ONeill on January 31, 2025, 10:40:46 PMWhen he first came on the scene I enjoyed him. I thought he was at the same thing Ali was at, and just slabbering for the sake of ticket sales, then backing it up.

Ali had charm and wit, this boy was pure knackerism from day one

Publicity was great and he made millions so fair play I suppose

Square Ball

Hospitals are not equipped to treat stupid

ONeill

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on January 31, 2025, 10:56:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 31, 2025, 10:40:46 PMWhen he first came on the scene I enjoyed him. I thought he was at the same thing Ali was at, and just slabbering for the sake of ticket sales, then backing it up.

Ali had charm and wit, this boy was pure knackerism from day one

Publicity was great and he made millions so fair play I suppose

Ali was slabbering about some dodgy enough stuff early on.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

quit yo jibbajabba

He had his moments tbf

They'll not be replaying McGregors best bits in 40yrs

nrico2006

McGregor was brilliant at the trash talking and was sharp with hus responses in every situation. Backed it up in the octagon too. But that was pre-Mayweather.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

Wildweasel74

Ali didn't have to use curse words his entire life, in his trash talking, which he said he picked up from Gorgeous George when he went to watch wrestling, when he was younger.

Main Street

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Quote from: gallsman on January 31, 2025, 10:04:53 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 31, 2025, 09:08:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 31, 2025, 06:38:00 PMWe're now in 2025 by the way.
The tricolour is the flag of an Independent Irish State.
The existence of said State means people from the 6 Cos. can get Irish passports and can be Irish citizens.

McGregor is still a bolx though.
There is no "can be Irish citizens", those born in the 6 counties are automatically Irish nationals by dint of place of birth and can apply for a passport in the same manner as any southerner.

On McGregor, he's more than just a bollíx, he's a drug/drink addled fascist thug but sure why not   extrapolate those odious character traits to that typical of the "southerner".
 

Well that's not true, the 27th Amendment made sure of that. Jus sanguinis applies.

Examining the point I think you were trying to make though, is that the case, rather than everyone is "entitled to Irish citizenship"? If everyone is automatically an Irish national, presumably the other side of that coin also holds true, and everyone is therefore automatically British too. I remember Fat boy Gavin Robinson tried to claim this and we were all up in arms. Similarly the arguement was at the centre of the Emma de Souza case.
If you are born in the  6 counties you are automatically a British citizen by dint of birth unless of course you go through the legal  process and renounce that citizenship.  I could have told Emma that for nothing.  Yes I know there has been an amendment to the irish constitution, strictly confined to an Irish born child with foreign born parents  no longer being entitled to Irish citizenship.

None of your nitpicking denies the fact that those born in the 6 counties are automatically Irish citizens unless (for the pedantically inclined) both parents are not Irish nationals. That amendment applies to the 32 counties.
The vast majority  those born in the 6 counties are dual nationals at birth, All of those born in the 6 counties to at least one Irish national is automatically entitled  to Irish citizenship
Have you renounced your British citizenship? I suspect most nationalists in the 6 counties have for some reason not renounced their British citizenship. What would Conor give for that 'privilege', to be entitled by birth to be a Brit?

gallsman

No no no, eat your humble pie. You said anyone born in the North are automatically Irish nationals. This is categorically untrue. The constitution is not "nitpicking". You're just wrong.

thebuzz

Quote from: gallsman on February 02, 2025, 06:26:26 AMNo no no, eat your humble pie. You said anyone born in the North are automatically Irish nationals. This is categorically untrue. The constitution is not "nitpicking". You're just wrong.
I don't give a shit about any constitution. I was born in County Derry and as far as I'm concerned every single thing about me is Irish no matter what the constitution says.

gallsman

Good for you, that doesn't contradict anything I said.