The DUP thread

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trueblue1234

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 12:14:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 09:33:42 AM
Quote from: marty34 on January 11, 2025, 09:26:08 AMChildren will get through, regardless of what school they go to. That's life. They're resilient.

Parents are the main educator in a child's life. That's fact. Moreso than the teachers. Too many parents, in my opinion anyway, want to blame schools and teachers for their child's lack of ability in terms of their academic studies.   
For me that's just giving teachers a by-ball. I don't bring the car to the mechanics and then fix it myself.
Parents have a roll in education of kids without a doubt. But the teachers have a massive one as well, and should be accountable when they're sh!te at their job.

But what if your kid is just thick? Or abusive? Or no intention of learning and just there for the craic? Only so much you can do
If they're thick, I'd like to think the teacher will still try their best. Or are you saying Teachers should only try with the brightest?
If they've no intention of learning or abusive, I'd expect the school to have informed the parents of this so parents will be aware of the issues. You can't say some children won't do well in school so therefore can never blame the teachers. That's just nonsense. 


Please point out in my post were I said teachers don't try?
Please point out in my post where I said you said that.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Milltown Row2

Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 07:42:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 12:14:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 09:33:42 AM
Quote from: marty34 on January 11, 2025, 09:26:08 AMChildren will get through, regardless of what school they go to. That's life. They're resilient.

Parents are the main educator in a child's life. That's fact. Moreso than the teachers. Too many parents, in my opinion anyway, want to blame schools and teachers for their child's lack of ability in terms of their academic studies.   
For me that's just giving teachers a by-ball. I don't bring the car to the mechanics and then fix it myself.
Parents have a roll in education of kids without a doubt. But the teachers have a massive one as well, and should be accountable when they're sh!te at their job.

But what if your kid is just thick? Or abusive? Or no intention of learning and just there for the craic? Only so much you can do
If they're thick, I'd like to think the teacher will still try their best. Or are you saying Teachers should only try with the brightest?
If they've no intention of learning or abusive, I'd expect the school to have informed the parents of this so parents will be aware of the issues. You can't say some children won't do well in school so therefore can never blame the teachers. That's just nonsense. 


Please point out in my post were I said teachers don't try?
Please point out in my post where I said you said that.

You said teachers should at least try?  Wtf do think they are doing?

You also said should they only try with the brightest!

You are a clown. Parents at parents night tell parents that wee Johnny isn't doing well or is going well or could do better.

Parents then ask could there be more done? Teacher says well, look I'll arrange an after school class to go over some stuff they are struggling on, wee Johnny doesn't turn up or wee Johnny still doesn't get it. But the teacher isn't trying enough.

Personally, I've always looked at the child and if ya aren't blindsided you'll know the reason.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

trueblue1234

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 07:49:14 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 07:42:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 12:14:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 09:33:42 AM
Quote from: marty34 on January 11, 2025, 09:26:08 AMChildren will get through, regardless of what school they go to. That's life. They're resilient.

Parents are the main educator in a child's life. That's fact. Moreso than the teachers. Too many parents, in my opinion anyway, want to blame schools and teachers for their child's lack of ability in terms of their academic studies.   
For me that's just giving teachers a by-ball. I don't bring the car to the mechanics and then fix it myself.
Parents have a roll in education of kids without a doubt. But the teachers have a massive one as well, and should be accountable when they're sh!te at their job.

But what if your kid is just thick? Or abusive? Or no intention of learning and just there for the craic? Only so much you can do
If they're thick, I'd like to think the teacher will still try their best. Or are you saying Teachers should only try with the brightest?
If they've no intention of learning or abusive, I'd expect the school to have informed the parents of this so parents will be aware of the issues. You can't say some children won't do well in school so therefore can never blame the teachers. That's just nonsense. 


Please point out in my post were I said teachers don't try?
Please point out in my post where I said you said that.

You said teachers should at least try?  Wtf do think they are doing?

You also said should they only try with the brightest!

You are a clown. Parents at parents night tell parents that wee Johnny isn't doing well or is going well or could do better.

Parents then ask could there be more done? Teacher says well, look I'll arrange an after school class to go over some stuff they are struggling on, wee Johnny doesn't turn up or wee Johnny still doesn't get it. But the teacher isn't trying enough.

Personally, I've always looked at the child and if ya aren't blindsided you'll know the reason.

FFS you're having a mare today. Between this and the Armagh thread. Away and lie down.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Wildweasel74

I like to see what Gregory Campbell has brought to his constituency in his whole time elected there. Ballymoney main street, totally run down, nothing of note workwise brought into the area. A total dinosaur from the past, and the fact this **** still gets voted in, says alot about the general unionist population in the area.

SaffronSports

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 11, 2025, 08:51:59 PMI like to see what Gregory Campbell has brought to his constituency in his whole time elected there. Ballymoney main street, totally run down, nothing of note workwise brought into the area. A total dinosaur from the past, and the fact this **** still gets voted in, says alot about the general unionist population in the area.

As much as I hate Gregory Campbell would Ian Paisley (now Jim Allister) not have been the MP for Ballymoney?

Tony Baloney

Quote from: SaffronSports on January 11, 2025, 09:11:43 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 11, 2025, 08:51:59 PMI like to see what Gregory Campbell has brought to his constituency in his whole time elected there. Ballymoney main street, totally run down, nothing of note workwise brought into the area. A total dinosaur from the past, and the fact this **** still gets voted in, says alot about the general unionist population in the area.

As much as I hate Gregory Campbell would Ian Paisley (now Jim Allister) not have been the MP for Ballymoney?
Correct I believe. Flegory is East Derry and Ballymoney is N. Antrim.

Milltown Row2

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Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 07:51:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 07:49:14 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 07:42:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 12:14:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 09:33:42 AM
Quote from: marty34 on January 11, 2025, 09:26:08 AMChildren will get through, regardless of what school they go to. That's life. They're resilient.

Parents are the main educator in a child's life. That's fact. Moreso than the teachers. Too many parents, in my opinion anyway, want to blame schools and teachers for their child's lack of ability in terms of their academic studies.   
For me that's just giving teachers a by-ball. I don't bring the car to the mechanics and then fix it myself.
Parents have a roll in education of kids without a doubt. But the teachers have a massive one as well, and should be accountable when they're sh!te at their job.

But what if your kid is just thick? Or abusive? Or no intention of learning and just there for the craic? Only so much you can do
If they're thick, I'd like to think the teacher will still try their best. Or are you saying Teachers should only try with the brightest?
If they've no intention of learning or abusive, I'd expect the school to have informed the parents of this so parents will be aware of the issues. You can't say some children won't do well in school so therefore can never blame the teachers. That's just nonsense. 


Please point out in my post were I said teachers don't try?
Please point out in my post where I said you said that.

You said teachers should at least try?  Wtf do think they are doing?

You also said should they only try with the brightest!

You are a clown. Parents at parents night tell parents that wee Johnny isn't doing well or is going well or could do better.

Parents then ask could there be more done? Teacher says well, look I'll arrange an after school class to go over some stuff they are struggling on, wee Johnny doesn't turn up or wee Johnny still doesn't get it. But the teacher isn't trying enough.

Personally, I've always looked at the child and if ya aren't blindsided you'll know the reason.

FFS you're having a mare today. Between this and the Armagh thread. Away and lie down.

Yea, that's the answer.

And I hope you ain't getting me mixed up with another poster on Rian thread not the Armagh thread, though wouldn't surprise me
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

trueblue1234

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 09:42:01 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 07:51:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 07:49:14 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 07:42:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 12:14:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 09:33:42 AM
Quote from: marty34 on January 11, 2025, 09:26:08 AMChildren will get through, regardless of what school they go to. That's life. They're resilient.

Parents are the main educator in a child's life. That's fact. Moreso than the teachers. Too many parents, in my opinion anyway, want to blame schools and teachers for their child's lack of ability in terms of their academic studies.   
For me that's just giving teachers a by-ball. I don't bring the car to the mechanics and then fix it myself.
Parents have a roll in education of kids without a doubt. But the teachers have a massive one as well, and should be accountable when they're sh!te at their job.

But what if your kid is just thick? Or abusive? Or no intention of learning and just there for the craic? Only so much you can do
If they're thick, I'd like to think the teacher will still try their best. Or are you saying Teachers should only try with the brightest?
If they've no intention of learning or abusive, I'd expect the school to have informed the parents of this so parents will be aware of the issues. You can't say some children won't do well in school so therefore can never blame the teachers. That's just nonsense. 


Please point out in my post were I said teachers don't try?
Please point out in my post where I said you said that.

You said teachers should at least try?  Wtf do think they are doing?

You also said should they only try with the brightest!

You are a clown. Parents at parents night tell parents that wee Johnny isn't doing well or is going well or could do better.

Parents then ask could there be more done? Teacher says well, look I'll arrange an after school class to go over some stuff they are struggling on, wee Johnny doesn't turn up or wee Johnny still doesn't get it. But the teacher isn't trying enough.

Personally, I've always looked at the child and if ya aren't blindsided you'll know the reason.

FFS you're having a mare today. Between this and the Armagh thread. Away and lie down.

Yea, that's the answer.

And I hope you ain't getting me mixed up with another poster on Rian thread not the Armagh thread, though wouldn't surprise me
No mix up, trust me, your debating style is unique on the board.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Milltown Row2

Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 10:26:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 09:42:01 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 07:51:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 07:49:14 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 07:42:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 07:02:26 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 12:14:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2025, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 11, 2025, 09:33:42 AM
Quote from: marty34 on January 11, 2025, 09:26:08 AMChildren will get through, regardless of what school they go to. That's life. They're resilient.

Parents are the main educator in a child's life. That's fact. Moreso than the teachers. Too many parents, in my opinion anyway, want to blame schools and teachers for their child's lack of ability in terms of their academic studies.   
For me that's just giving teachers a by-ball. I don't bring the car to the mechanics and then fix it myself.
Parents have a roll in education of kids without a doubt. But the teachers have a massive one as well, and should be accountable when they're sh!te at their job.

But what if your kid is just thick? Or abusive? Or no intention of learning and just there for the craic? Only so much you can do
If they're thick, I'd like to think the teacher will still try their best. Or are you saying Teachers should only try with the brightest?
If they've no intention of learning or abusive, I'd expect the school to have informed the parents of this so parents will be aware of the issues. You can't say some children won't do well in school so therefore can never blame the teachers. That's just nonsense. 


Please point out in my post were I said teachers don't try?
Please point out in my post where I said you said that.

You said teachers should at least try?  Wtf do think they are doing?

You also said should they only try with the brightest!

You are a clown. Parents at parents night tell parents that wee Johnny isn't doing well or is going well or could do better.

Parents then ask could there be more done? Teacher says well, look I'll arrange an after school class to go over some stuff they are struggling on, wee Johnny doesn't turn up or wee Johnny still doesn't get it. But the teacher isn't trying enough.

Personally, I've always looked at the child and if ya aren't blindsided you'll know the reason.

FFS you're having a mare today. Between this and the Armagh thread. Away and lie down.

Yea, that's the answer.

And I hope you ain't getting me mixed up with another poster on Rian thread not the Armagh thread, though wouldn't surprise me
No mix up, trust me, your debating style is unique on the board.

So where on the Armagh thread today was I debating?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Wildweasel74

Yeah, he be east Londoderry, Covering Limavady, with Ballymoney, Causeway ,coast and Glen's. Done very little for Limavady either.

JoG2

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 11, 2025, 10:48:23 PMYeah, he be east Londoderry, Covering Limavady, with Ballymoney, Causeway ,coast and Glen's. Done very little for Limavady either.

Gregory is a career politician ie he'll play to his electorate, but, and I'm no fan of the man, he's helped out many of themums over the years. He's also, or was the chairman of a local soccer team who've had plenty of GAA men playing for them, and I'm sure it erks him, one of his wains is married to a taig 😬

Snapchap

Rest assured this will be his last few years in politics. SF came within a whisker of taking what literally everyone, even surely SF, presumed was a solidly safe DUP seat last time out. He won't want to suffer the indignity of losing the seat to the shinners next time round. He'll jump before he is pushed.

armaghniac

Quote from: JoG2 on January 12, 2025, 01:01:54 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 11, 2025, 10:48:23 PMYeah, he be east Londoderry, Covering Limavady, with Ballymoney, Causeway ,coast and Glen's. Done very little for Limavady either.

Gregory is a career politician ie he'll play to his electorate, but, and I'm no fan of the man, he's helped out many of themums over the years. He's also, or was the chairman of a local soccer team who've had plenty of GAA men playing for them, and I'm sure it erks him, one of his wains is married to a taig 😬

Comment elsewhere suggested that he has adopted this hardline political persona which plays well to the troglodyte DUP electorate, but that personally he wouldn't necessarily be like that.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

gallsman

If so, he's stayed in character pretty well for 40 odd years.

JPGJOHNNYG

Quote from: Snapchap on January 12, 2025, 05:43:16 PMRest assured this will be his last few years in politics. SF came within a whisker of taking what literally everyone, even surely SF, presumed was a solidly safe DUP seat last time out. He won't want to suffer the indignity of losing the seat to the shinners next time round. He'll jump before he is pushed.

A few commentators had this seat close. The TUV were running so the DUP vote was always going to be down. SF should really have been on it here. Instead they were too busy trying to decapitate the SDLP in Foyle rather than putting all the resources in East derry. In the end their vote was about the same as their assembly vote. Any increase at all, any encouragement to the nationalist voters that actually their was a chance then Gregory was gone. TUV won't stand here next time for fear of being accused of vote splitting. They didn't stand in upper Bann for this reason even though upper Bann was actually much safer.  I expect a comfortable enough unionist hold next time. When E Derry and Upper Bann finally go green then it's game over for unionism