Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

Started by Main Street, February 12, 2022, 09:38:45 PM

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seafoid

Last week it was announced that North Korea had delivered long rang missile to Russia for use in the Kursk area. This week Biden announced the delivery of long range missiles for use in the Kursk area. Germany has also delivered 4000 drones.

Banks of the Bann

#1681
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2024, 07:19:31 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 18, 2024, 07:14:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2024, 05:38:21 PMGuy on the radio today saying that if Russia continues it will win the war.

Making inroads into Ukrainian territory at the minute, driving them back won't be done with letting off these rockets


"If" Russia continues, but having 1500 casualties per day and losing 50 armoured vehicles means continuing is a bit of a challenge. Even at the present accelerated pace Russia will not occupy all of Ukraine until 2050.

This was from someone who's better placed than you or I

You'll get lots of conflicting opinions on the situation at the various fronts, some a lot more pessimistic than others.

Who was the speaker out of interest?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on November 18, 2024, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2024, 07:19:31 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 18, 2024, 07:14:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2024, 05:38:21 PMGuy on the radio today saying that if Russia continues it will win the war.

Making inroads into Ukrainian territory at the minute, driving them back won't be done with letting off these rockets


"If" Russia continues, but having 1500 casualties per day and losing 50 armoured vehicles means continuing is a bit of a challenge. Even at the present accelerated pace Russia will not occupy all of Ukraine until 2050.

This was from someone who's better placed than you or I

You'll get lots of conflicting opinions on the situation at the various fronts, some a lot more pessimistic than others.

Who was the speaker out of interest?

He was a British ambassador to Russia
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2024, 08:50:50 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on November 18, 2024, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2024, 07:19:31 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 18, 2024, 07:14:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2024, 05:38:21 PMGuy on the radio today saying that if Russia continues it will win the war.

Making inroads into Ukrainian territory at the minute, driving them back won't be done with letting off these rockets


"If" Russia continues, but having 1500 casualties per day and losing 50 armoured vehicles means continuing is a bit of a challenge. Even at the present accelerated pace Russia will not occupy all of Ukraine until 2050.

This was from someone who's better placed than you or I

You'll get lots of conflicting opinions on the situation at the various fronts, some a lot more pessimistic than others.

Who was the speaker out of interest?

He was a British ambassador to Russia

Yeah I heard an interview with him on Times radio. Very downbeat on Ukraine's prospects. Is he right? Maybe. No one knows for sure, including him.

All sorts of conflicting opinions from experts on that Radio show. Former Ambassadors, diplomats, ex military etc.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on November 18, 2024, 09:00:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2024, 08:50:50 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on November 18, 2024, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2024, 07:19:31 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 18, 2024, 07:14:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2024, 05:38:21 PMGuy on the radio today saying that if Russia continues it will win the war.

Making inroads into Ukrainian territory at the minute, driving them back won't be done with letting off these rockets


"If" Russia continues, but having 1500 casualties per day and losing 50 armoured vehicles means continuing is a bit of a challenge. Even at the present accelerated pace Russia will not occupy all of Ukraine until 2050.

This was from someone who's better placed than you or I

You'll get lots of conflicting opinions on the situation at the various fronts, some a lot more pessimistic than others.

Who was the speaker out of interest?

He was a British ambassador to Russia

Yeah I heard an interview with him on Times radio. Very downbeat on Ukraine's prospects. Is he right? Maybe. No one knows for sure, including him.

All sorts of conflicting opinions from experts on that Radio show. Former Ambassadors, diplomats, ex military etc.

That's true, plenty of different stories, but I'd say they'd have a better inside knowledge, contacts and more up to date on the state of affairs than the average Joe on here.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2024, 09:04:22 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on November 18, 2024, 09:00:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2024, 08:50:50 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on November 18, 2024, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2024, 07:19:31 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 18, 2024, 07:14:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 18, 2024, 05:38:21 PMGuy on the radio today saying that if Russia continues it will win the war.

Making inroads into Ukrainian territory at the minute, driving them back won't be done with letting off these rockets


"If" Russia continues, but having 1500 casualties per day and losing 50 armoured vehicles means continuing is a bit of a challenge. Even at the present accelerated pace Russia will not occupy all of Ukraine until 2050.

This was from someone who's better placed than you or I

You'll get lots of conflicting opinions on the situation at the various fronts, some a lot more pessimistic than others.

Who was the speaker out of interest?

He was a British ambassador to Russia

Yeah I heard an interview with him on Times radio. Very downbeat on Ukraine's prospects. Is he right? Maybe. No one knows for sure, including him.

All sorts of conflicting opinions from experts on that Radio show. Former Ambassadors, diplomats, ex military etc.

That's true, plenty of different stories, but I'd say they'd have a better inside knowledge, contacts and more up to date on the state of affairs than the average Joe on here.

Plenty of experts offering up a similar opinion as Armaghniac about Russia's unsustainable attrition rate.

armaghniac

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on November 18, 2024, 09:20:36 PMPlenty of experts offering up a similar opinion as Armaghniac about Russia's unsustainable attrition rate.

Indeed, and they are getting paid for it whereas you get it for free.
Russia reckons they have a bigger population and Putin does not care about losses, so send in the meat waves. But this approach also loses vehicles, artillery etc and they are beginning to run out.
I think that Russia has made a push to maximise their position by January and then have some sort of ceasefire deal which reduces sanctions so they can recharge to for the next push. One small fly in the ointment is Ukraine occupying part of Kursk, Putin might not like a ceasefire deal which leaves them in long control of part of Russia. The Russians made a big push in Kursk, using some new kit, but they hardly reached the Ukrainian lines, mostly coming a cropper in minefields.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: armaghniac on November 18, 2024, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on November 18, 2024, 09:20:36 PMPlenty of experts offering up a similar opinion as Armaghniac about Russia's unsustainable attrition rate.

Indeed, and they are getting paid for it whereas you get it for free.
Russia reckons they have a bigger population and Putin does not care about losses, so send in the meat waves. But this approach also loses vehicles, artillery etc and they are beginning to run out.
I think that Russia has made a push to maximise their position by January and then have some sort of ceasefire deal which reduces sanctions so they can recharge to for the next push. One small fly in the ointment is Ukraine occupying part of Kursk, Putin might not like a ceasefire deal which leaves them in long control of part of Russia. The Russians made a big push in Kursk, using some new kit, but they hardly reached the Ukrainian lines, mostly coming a cropper in minefields.

And now Ukraine have also been granted limited use of longer range weapons in Kursk.

Wildweasel74

#1688
What beats me, is why even make a announcement, deploy them and the truth of using them, will come out in the long grass. Why even give Russia a heads up.The propaganda war sometimes overlooks the need for secrecy.

Tony Baloney

Biden will be letting Ukraine fill their boots before Putin's mate takes over in January.


armaghniac

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 18, 2024, 11:29:11 PMWhat beats me, is why even make a announcement, deploy them and the truth of using them, will come out in the long grass. Why even give Russia a heads up.The propaganda war sometimes overlooks the need for secrecy.

If Russia has to move its resources further back then that is an outcome in itself.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

Milltown Row2

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

theskull1

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2024, 08:58:51 AMDead simple, pull your troops out of Ukraine and and go back to your own country. Its like supporting the occupied north..

Game theory not your strong point MR?

We're at the brink of WWIII and the UK is within range

PUTIN EXPLAINS NEW NUCLEAR DOCTRINE

It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

general_lee

Quote from: theskull1 on November 19, 2024, 10:00:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2024, 08:58:51 AMDead simple, pull your troops out of Ukraine and and go back to your own country. Its like supporting the occupied north..

Game theory not your strong point MR?

We're at the brink of WWIII and the UK is within range

PUTIN EXPLAINS NEW NUCLEAR DOCTRINE


Given the billions of £s of Russian money currently in London, do you think that's ever going to happen?