9/11 What really happened to WT7?

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trueblue1234

Quote from: Seamus on September 13, 2024, 08:35:48 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on September 13, 2024, 07:53:38 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 13, 2024, 06:31:43 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 11, 2024, 08:39:28 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 11, 2024, 03:23:26 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 09, 2024, 10:28:28 PMWT7 collapsed, because guess  what, they hadn't decided to drop half a building on it, and have internal fire rage through it, to test if it take such damage. Just like a bad fire at Grenfell highlighted a material deficient. Never understood why rainscreen cladding hadn't External fire breaks outside floor levels anyway

So half a building falling on World Trade Center 7 was the main cause of the collapse, a 10 second collapse into its own footprint. I presume you are talking about one of WTC 1 or 2 being the instigator. That is 55 floors falling on top of WTC 7, have you video evidence of this? The official lie didn't even come up with that one.

It didn't collapse onto its own footprint. Debris was spread across a wide area. The surrounding buildings all took damage, some more than others. Building 7 was damaged enough to cause a structural failure.

Go get a hobby.

Normal protective measures could not be used as with regular controlled demolitions. Have you ever witnessed a controlled demolition of a high rise building take place? Also nanotechnology was in play (my opinion Ripple Technology, not the crypto), this explains the tons of steel flying through air and tons of concrete pulverized. Massive steel beams turned to molten lasting for months. I can speak of the steel structure and the 4 inch thickness of fireproofing surrounding each beam and gilder along with the rebar reinforced tons of concrete in WTC 7. I was a first hand witness as I worked in the construction of the building from early September 1985 to the topping off in early 1987. I was one of the first people on site after the completion of the foundation. Out of curiosity I tested the fireproofing with an oxygen acetylene torch which I'm very adapt at. Barely a spark bounced off. When WTC 7 came down in 10 or so seconds I instantly know that America was attacked from within.  NIST's final conclusion was that WTC 7 collapsed due to fires, what a load of crap.

The conspiracy goes way back and Seamus is in on it. They deliberately weakened the steel with an acetylene torch. No wonder it collapsed.

The Q Deck ceilings were also fireproofed. What a nonsensical response. The steel was not weakened by fire as per the official report. Do you know the difference between office fires and the cutting power of an oxygen acetylene torch? Yet another person clueless about construction
Right I have some, but limited knowledge of steel erection. But are you claiming a 4000 degree torch wouldn't weaken fireproofed steel? If held to it? Is that seriously what you're claiming?
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nrico2006

There are lots of strands to 9/11 which are very suspicious, but always struggled with arguments about how the buildings wouldn't have collapsed as they did, due to the fuel fire temperature etc., as surely it is too unique a situation that even expert engineers best explanations are just guesses, unless they have recreated the flying of a passenger plane into a skyscraper to assess the impacts.
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tiempo

The biggest piss take was surely finding the hijacker passport in the rubble

And was there something about a certain ethnicity not turning in to work at the towers that day?

RedHand88

Quote from: tiempo on September 13, 2024, 11:43:02 AMThe biggest piss take was surely finding the hijacker passport in the rubble

And was there something about a certain ethnicity not turning in to work at the towers that day?

No.

theskull1

3 buildings went down like controlled demolitions (one didn't need jet fuel) and theres nothing to see here.  ::)

Thank god for the proponents of the war on terror, who went after the bad muslims (something they'd been pushing for years prior). America/Israel deep state would never do false flags to move the needle. 
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

J70

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 13, 2024, 11:25:39 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 13, 2024, 10:14:56 AMSeamus I categorically refuse to believe you were testing the WTC foundations in 1985 with an oxygen acetylene torch. You have completely made that up in order to lend false evidence to your deluded conspiracy theory.

I've used Oxy Acetylene burning equipment for many years and I can say (from experience) you can cut through any metal  up to at least 6"

as for it being fireproofed well I'm not sure on how long that stuff lasts or depending on damage/impact of the imaginary planes/rockets had on it.

But Redhand is right, you are talking keek

Monokote is one of the leading fireproofing brands in the US.

This particular one from a very quick google search is rated for up to four hours on i-beams, three on decking.

And I'd imagine that best-case protection would be compromised by blasts and high pressure.  :)

Monokote

AustinPowers

Quote from: tiempo on September 13, 2024, 11:43:02 AMThe biggest piss take was surely finding the hijacker passport in the rubble


You mean that didn't happen?  :o

Milltown Row2

There were credit cards and wallets of passengers found also, some bodies were found others no trace.

The bodies that were never traced can be found at Area 51

Those that planned it and executed it mysteriously died from 'accidents' 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

LeoMc

Quote from: Seamus on September 13, 2024, 08:35:48 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on September 13, 2024, 07:53:38 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 13, 2024, 06:31:43 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 11, 2024, 08:39:28 AM
Quote from: Seamus on September 11, 2024, 03:23:26 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 09, 2024, 10:28:28 PMWT7 collapsed, because guess  what, they hadn't decided to drop half a building on it, and have internal fire rage through it, to test if it take such damage. Just like a bad fire at Grenfell highlighted a material deficient. Never understood why rainscreen cladding hadn't External fire breaks outside floor levels anyway

So half a building falling on World Trade Center 7 was the main cause of the collapse, a 10 second collapse into its own footprint. I presume you are talking about one of WTC 1 or 2 being the instigator. That is 55 floors falling on top of WTC 7, have you video evidence of this? The official lie didn't even come up with that one.

It didn't collapse onto its own footprint. Debris was spread across a wide area. The surrounding buildings all took damage, some more than others. Building 7 was damaged enough to cause a structural failure.

Go get a hobby.

Normal protective measures could not be used as with regular controlled demolitions. Have you ever witnessed a controlled demolition of a high rise building take place? Also nanotechnology was in play (my opinion Ripple Technology, not the crypto), this explains the tons of steel flying through air and tons of concrete pulverized. Massive steel beams turned to molten lasting for months. I can speak of the steel structure and the 4 inch thickness of fireproofing surrounding each beam and gilder along with the rebar reinforced tons of concrete in WTC 7. I was a first hand witness as I worked in the construction of the building from early September 1985 to the topping off in early 1987. I was one of the first people on site after the completion of the foundation. Out of curiosity I tested the fireproofing with an oxygen acetylene torch which I'm very adapt at. Barely a spark bounced off. When WTC 7 came down in 10 or so seconds I instantly know that America was attacked from within.  NIST's final conclusion was that WTC 7 collapsed due to fires, what a load of crap.

The conspiracy goes way back and Seamus is in on it. They deliberately weakened the steel with an acetylene torch. No wonder it collapsed.

The Q Deck ceilings were also fireproofed. What a nonsensical response. The steel was not weakened by fire as per the official report. Do you know the difference between office fires and the cutting power of an oxygen acetylene torch? Yet another person clueless about construction

I would know as little about construction aa you know about reality.

J70

I don't really want to get sucked into this idiotic debate, but one question about "the towers collapsed like controlled demolitions" "argument"?

Leaving aside that the one third of the south tower above the crash zone actually tilted a bit to the side because the damage from the plane was focused on one side of the building, how exactly are giant buildings supposed to collapse other than mostly into their own footprint?

Does gravity not pulled a falling object, especially dense heavy materials like structural steel, concrete and rebar, pretty much straight down?

Dire Ear

Quote from: tiempo on September 13, 2024, 11:43:02 AMThe biggest piss take was surely finding the hijacker passport in the rubble

And was there something about a certain ethnicity not turning in to work at the towers that day?

Yes

Milltown Row2

Quote from: J70 on September 13, 2024, 01:10:23 PMI don't really want to get sucked into this idiotic debate, but one question about "the towers collapsed like controlled demolitions" "argument"?

Leaving aside that the one third of the south tower above the crash zone actually tilted a bit to the side because the damage from the plane was focused on one side of the building, how exactly are giant buildings supposed to collapse other than mostly into their own footprint?

Does gravity not pulled a falling object, especially dense heavy materials like structural steel, concrete and rebar, pretty much straight down?


No, they are meant to fall likes trees.. Timber!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

dec

Quote from: RedHand88 on September 13, 2024, 11:45:46 AM
Quote from: tiempo on September 13, 2024, 11:43:02 AMThe biggest piss take was surely finding the hijacker passport in the rubble

And was there something about a certain ethnicity not turning in to work at the towers that day?

No.
After 9/11 one of the many batshit crazy rumours was that Jews had been told to stay at home because they had been given advance notice of the attacks. Like everything else that our friends in the conspiracy loon community come out with there was not a single shred of evidence for that.

samuel maguire

Only one possible solution.

Rebuild a replica tower

Fly a plane full of passengers into said tower

Analysis results and come to conclusion

Happy Seamus??

GTP

If you intended to bring down the buildings using controlled explosions why not simply drive a large truck into the underground car park with a bomb and use it as a decoy. Covering up one form of demolition by using a completely different method i.e. flying a plane into the building seems overly complex.