The far right

[RedHand88]

Plenty of hand wringing going on and not much else

The media are heavily pushing a one side all bad other side all good narrative. The police 'can' make any protest 'violent' if they want to.

This mass immigration thing is not natural and we're seeing (unintended/intended?) consequences play out. Government right across the west don't want to listen.

It's actually perfectly natural. Humans have been migrating since they were able to nearly 90,000 years ago. Drawing lines in the road and separating them is not natural if you want to be pedantic.

[burdizzo]

Plenty of hand wringing going on and not much else

The media are heavily pushing a one side all bad other side all good narrative. The police 'can' make any protest 'violent' if they want to.

This mass immigration thing is not natural and we're seeing (unintended/intended?) consequences play out. Government right across the west don't want to listen.

It's actually perfectly natural. Humans have been migrating since they were able to nearly 90,000 years ago. Drawing lines in the road and separating them is not natural if you want to be pedantic.

Well, if you want to be really pedantic, it was always perfectly natural for groups of humans to protect their own territories and resources. Of course migrations happened, but they were usually invasions that were resisted. It's the same with many species of animal, as well.

[Milltown Row2]

Plenty of hand wringing going on and not much else

The media are heavily pushing a one side all bad other side all good narrative. The police 'can' make any protest 'violent' if they want to.

This mass immigration thing is not natural and we're seeing (unintended/intended?) consequences play out. Government right across the west don't want to listen.

It's actually perfectly natural. Humans have been migrating since they were able to nearly 90,000 years ago. Drawing lines in the road and separating them is not natural if you want to be pedantic.

Well, if you want to be really pedantic, it was always perfectly natural for groups of humans to protect their own territories and resources. Of course migrations happened, but they were usually invasions that were resisted. It's the same with many species of animal, as well.

No dogs no blacks no Irish. Standard signs at digs outside of Ireland.

I'm struggling to understand why it was ok for 'us' to migrate around the world but f**k that if anyone comes here and 'diluted' our DNA

[theskull1]

Migration and mass migration are different things as I'm sure you well know. Whats happening at the minute (i.e. this MASS migration of unskilled people) is not normal IMO.   

Tell me why it feels normal to you and how, as a country, Ireland will benefit from all this discontent?
Sell it to me.

[Itchy]

Migration and mass migration are different things as I'm sure you well know. Whats happening at the minute (i.e. this MASS migration of unskilled people) is not normal IMO.   

Tell me why it feels normal to you and how, as a country, Ireland will benefit from all this discontent?
Sell it to me.

Disappointed to read this. Where you get the data that theyre unskilled? Maybe you could sell it to me what mass migration of Irish unskilled did for America.

[Milltown Row2]

Migration and mass migration are different things as I'm sure you well know. Whats happening at the minute (i.e. this MASS migration of unskilled people) is not normal IMO.   

Tell me why it feels normal to you and how, as a country, Ireland will benefit from all this discontent?
Sell it to me.

Give me the figures for Ireland as a whole.

I don't want the word mass used.

There are 5.2 million Irish people on the island by the way.

Bigger population brings a bigger economy. Plenty jobs here, get the process working better, get the illegals out process the ones better and send them back. I don't see negatives only potential.

Are you threaten? Have you lost your way of life? Tell me what have you lost?

[burdizzo]

No dogs no blacks no Irish. Standard signs at digs outside of Ireland.

I'm sorry, but this is complete and utter bullshit. Standard signs??!! You'd believe any old myth. These signs were very rare, if they ever existed at all. There's even some doubt over whether the only known photo of one of them was genuine or not.

[imtommygunn]

They existed alright.

[Milltown Row2]

No dogs no blacks no Irish. Standard signs at digs outside of Ireland.

I'm sorry, but this is complete and utter bullshit. Standard signs??!! You'd believe any old myth. These signs were very rare, if they ever existed at all. There's even some doubt over whether the only known photo of one of them was genuine or not.

Do yourself a favour and just google that line.

Ah feck it

https://eachother.org.uk/racism-1960s-britain/

Save you the bother

[Itchy]

No dogs no blacks no Irish. Standard signs at digs outside of Ireland.

I'm sorry, but this is complete and utter bullshit. Standard signs??!! You'd believe any old myth. These signs were very rare, if they ever existed at all. There's even some doubt over whether the only known photo of one of them was genuine or not.

Do yourself a favour and just google that line.

Ah feck it

https://eachother.org.uk/racism-1960s-britain/

Save you the bother

Look he's just showing a bit of loyalty to his racist friends in England, playing it down.

[burdizzo]

Migration and mass migration are different things as I'm sure you well know. Whats happening at the minute (i.e. this MASS migration of unskilled people) is not normal IMO.   

Tell me why it feels normal to you and how, as a country, Ireland will benefit from all this discontent?
Sell it to me.

Give me the figures for Ireland as a whole.

I don't want the word mass used.

There are 5.2 million Irish people on the island by the way.

Bigger population brings a bigger economy. Plenty jobs here, get the process working better, get the illegals out process the ones better and send them back. I don't see negatives only potential.

Are you threaten? Have you lost your way of life? Tell me what have you lost?

Ah, so that's what it's about - keeping the profits going for big multinational corporations, eh? (Actually, it is.) Funny how the left is so concerned about them. Yes, a growing economy requires a growing population, but it's like growing a tree in a flower-pot - there will come a bursting point. Anyway, is it all about the corporations? Shouldn't we have a cohesive society, a sense of togetherness, purpose, even? Surely, as a northerner, you'd be well placed to see how rival groups can be at each others' throats. It's not totally healthy. Why do you want even more fragmentation - 'Balkanisation', they call it - in this country. It's happening in a lot of western Europe, and it'll happen here, too. The old slogan, 'divide and conquer', I'm sure you're familiar with that? Interesting. More houses to house the world - but sure, we really care about the environment. Import more and more people from intolerant cultures - but sure, we're all for LGBT and women's rights. Yeah, as I said before, they don't want to be like us.
Perhaps in the long run it'll be for the best; we can all live in our concrete jungles, in our own little rival ghettoes, or else we'll be completely atomised and controlled by an over-arching state. Either way is dystopia.

[theskull1]

Evolution has taught humans by default to get freaked out by societal change.

100 young male immigrants housed in accommodation on your doorstep would put you and your wife just a little bit more on tilt than you're willing to admit.

On the economic front ... I don't see the Celtic Tiger demands at the moment that would strengthen our economy at the moment.
And when there was 'significant' noticeable migration during the Celtic Tiger years, why didn't it look like what is happening now?

Something very different happening currently. This migration is being driven on a large scale by  well funded organisations rather than individuals making their own decisions to migrate.

[burdizzo]

No dogs no blacks no Irish. Standard signs at digs outside of Ireland.

I'm sorry, but this is complete and utter bullshit. Standard signs??!! You'd believe any old myth. These signs were very rare, if they ever existed at all. There's even some doubt over whether the only known photo of one of them was genuine or not.

Do yourself a favour and just google that line.

Ah feck it

https://eachother.org.uk/racism-1960s-britain/

Save you the bother

I hate posting links, but - feck it.

https://www.irishpost.com/life-style/infamous-no-irish-no-blacks-no-dogs-signs-may-never-have-existed-racist-xenophobic-148416

[Itchy]

Evolution has taught humans by default to get freaked out by societal change.

100 young male immigrants housed in accommodation on your doorstep would put you and your wife just a little bit more on tilt than you're willing to admit.

On the economic front ... I don't see the Celtic Tiger demands at the moment that would strengthen our economy at the moment.
And when there was 'significant' noticeable migration during the Celtic Tiger years, why didn't it look like what is happening now?

Something very different happening currently. This migration is being driven on a large scale by  well funded organisations rather than individuals making their own decisions to migrate.

For what it's worth I don't think they should be packed into a building in 100s regardless of what sex they are. Should be smaller numbers in more places to improve integration. That said I don't think 100 refugees are all rapists and murderers just because they are black or Muslim or men or all three.

[theskull1]

Jesus Christ 

"That said I don't think 100 refugees are all rapists and murderers just because they are black or Muslim or men or all three."

Try your best to take to best interpretation of what is being communicated in these discussions and then we'll not be talking past each other.