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JoG2

Quote from: Franko on July 10, 2024, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on July 10, 2024, 10:28:00 AMLifelong Derry fanatic, desperate to see them succeed and think we are very very close to the top.

But I would rather we never won another game than reappoint Rory Gallagher.

The GAA is about more than just a game, so how can someone with his reputation be appointed to such a position.

I think it is shameful the way some people on here are trying to excuse his conduct for the sake of trying to win some games of football.


If we reappoint Gallagher then Brolly is right.

The GAA in Derry has been commercialised and commodified beyond all recognition and we deserve to win fcuk all.

There's no point in losing the run of ourselves until a decision has been made. There is so much happening that is right and extremely positive. There has to be a commercial angle to it to keep all the teams in action. That pr1ck sniping from the ditches offers nothing to Derry and brings nothing to our county, the opposite in fact.
There's an awful lot of people down at Owenbeg deserve serious credit for the position we're currently in.

imtommygunn

Three minor titles in 5 years is not to be sniffed at jog. Takes some effort for many years from clubs, schools and counties to have that kind of record.

You just can't bing him back but I don't think you will. Who you will bring back I don't know.

You're right sniping in the ditches like that not a help. Says "was it something I said" and likely thinks he was Harte's undoing  ::)

JoG2

Quote from: imtommygunn on July 10, 2024, 02:34:26 PMThree minor titles in 5 years is not to be sniffed at jog. Takes some effort for many years from clubs, schools and counties to have that kind of record.

You just can't bing him back but I don't think you will. Who you will bring back I don't know.

You're right sniping in the ditches like that not a help. Says "was it something I said" and likely thinks he was Harte's undoing  ::)

Thinking with the head and not the Harte, I'd have stuck with the 2 for another year (unless O'Rourke had been approached and was keen), when you look at who's available out there, or not, it's maybe better the devlin you know. No idea who we'll get in, will be interesting to see, would need to be done pre championship to allow the new management team a good look at players for '25

toby47

If MOR ruled himself out & Gallagher wasn't an option - Who would you want to see?

As stated above, there's not much about at the minute.

paddyjohn


Doire23

A bit left field but any chance of Conor Laverty being tempted from Down? Has them playing some nice football - a style that seems would suit this Derry team.
Assuming he is into his last playing year(s) with Kilcoo, now has experience under his belt as a senior inter-county manager, and potentially will have silverware under his belt too soon enough.

marty34

Quote from: paddyjohn on July 10, 2024, 07:53:30 PMPaddy Bradley, McFlynn & Muldoon.

Not Bradley or Mc Flynn.  Not sure what they're done. Definately not inter-county material. Is Bradley on the circuit?

Seems, when talking of inter-county managers nowadays, then it has to be a serious high quality manager.  Look at the two mentioned - RG and MOR.  These two are not your standard club managers.

Years ago, 5 or 6 names would be mentioned but these days, as a top 6 team, the bar is set very high.

I wonder has player power played a big hand in Harte's decision?

Panels seem to have a big input into who manages/who doesn't mange them these days. 

Wildweasel74

If you actually looking to win a All-Ireland you need a big name capable of doing it. It long been established we no home bred talent that cut the mustard, as multi Derry managers have shown over the years.

Mikhailov

Quote from: Doire23 on July 10, 2024, 09:31:10 PMA bit left field but any chance of Conor Laverty being tempted from Down? Has them playing some nice football - a style that seems would suit this Derry team.
Assuming he is into his last playing year(s) with Kilcoo, now has experience under his belt as a senior inter-county manager, and potentially will have silverware under his belt too soon enough.

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tiempo

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 10, 2024, 11:57:59 PMIf you actually looking to win a All-Ireland you need a big name capable of doing it. It long been established we no home bred talent that cut the mustard, as multi Derry managers have shown over the years.

Surely one among ye could do the job

Derryman forever

Quote from: tiempo on July 11, 2024, 08:11:08 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 10, 2024, 11:57:59 PMIf you actually looking to win a All-Ireland you need a big name capable of doing it. It long been established we no home bred talent that cut the mustard, as multi Derry managers have shown over the years.

Surely one among ye could do the job

I'm too busy.

93-DY-SAM

Quote from: Doire23 on July 10, 2024, 09:31:10 PMA bit left field but any chance of Conor Laverty being tempted from Down? Has them playing some nice football - a style that seems would suit this Derry team.
Assuming he is into his last playing year(s) with Kilcoo, now has experience under his belt as a senior inter-county manager, and potentially will have silverware under his belt too soon enough.

Jaysus no!

tbrick18

We need a players manager. RG seemed to be the first time we had a manager since the great Eamon Coleman who seemed to really gel with the players and who the players would run through walls for.

This is the type of manager we need backed up by a top class coach - like Ciaran Meenagh.

John Brennan was that type of manager, to a certain degree, and got us to an Ulster final - with injuries to the Bradley's probably costing us a win imo.

Brian Mullins seemed to have a good rapport with players too and we had some success under him.

So for me, who ever comes in, needs to have that ability to gel with the players and command their respect.
Harte is not that type of manager and if anything, doesn't interact much with the players directly.

There's a very short list out there that I'm aware of - especially if we are looking inside the county (and leaving MOR out of the equation). I get the feeling MOR doesnt want it.

Bradley and O'Rourke certainly steadied the ship last year for Donegal when they took over, but not for me at county level.
Tony McEntee maybe? With a good backroom team might be an option and as far as I know his term with Sligo is up this year and he's done a decent job there.
Jim Gavin has the experience, not sure he fits the profile of the type of manager I suggested or if he'd even entertain the likes of Derry.
If we look at what Monaghan have done with Vinny Corey, maybe we should be looking at recently retired players? I reckon Chrissy fancies it, but I wouldn't have him in there. I don't think he has the credentials and I'm not sure all the players would react well to it.

With clubs nominating, I'm going to guess the intention is to look internally within the county though.

JohnDenver

Quote from: tbrick18 on July 11, 2024, 09:49:32 AMWe need a players manager. RG seemed to be the first time we had a manager since the great Eamon Coleman who seemed to really gel with the players and who the players would run through walls for.

This is the type of manager we need backed up by a top class coach - like Ciaran Meenagh.

John Brennan was that type of manager, to a certain degree, and got us to an Ulster final - with injuries to the Bradley's probably costing us a win imo.

Brian Mullins seemed to have a good rapport with players too and we had some success under him.

So for me, who ever comes in, needs to have that ability to gel with the players and command their respect.
Harte is not that type of manager and if anything, doesn't interact much with the players directly.

There's a very short list out there that I'm aware of - especially if we are looking inside the county (and leaving MOR out of the equation). I get the feeling MOR doesnt want it.

Bradley and O'Rourke certainly steadied the ship last year for Donegal when they took over, but not for me at county level.
Tony McEntee maybe? With a good backroom team might be an option and as far as I know his term with Sligo is up this year and he's done a decent job there.
Jim Gavin has the experience, not sure he fits the profile of the type of manager I suggested or if he'd even entertain the likes of Derry.
If we look at what Monaghan have done with Vinny Corey, maybe we should be looking at recently retired players? I reckon Chrissy fancies it, but I wouldn't have him in there. I don't think he has the credentials and I'm not sure all the players would react well to it.

With clubs nominating, I'm going to guess the intention is to look internally within the county though.


I fear the club nominations is merely a tick box exercise.

Player power is the order of the day, especially when you have a panel with potential that is currently there. They know the window of opportunity is small for success.

All points to an RG return, but I think it will cause uproar and splits both within and outside of the county.

Wildweasel74

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There nobody in the county fit for it, how many previous managers has it took, for the county to realise that. What has any in-house club manager done to become a Derry manager. f**k All! Its O'Rourke, Gallagher and I honestly see no-one else fit for it We not get P Gilroy, J Gavin. In highsight, should Meenagh been leave at it a year last year to see if he could cut the mustard.?