Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[Doire23]

I would agree that when there's no court case, no investigation and, at the core, nothing ongoing in relation to the allegation, it's difficult to see a basis on which you can say he shouldn't get the gig HOWEVER I think it would be a really poor decision from the CB.
If Malachy O'Rourke is available it should be the easiest decision the CB will ever make. If he isn't, then time should be taken to find the most suitable option who isn't RG.
There's just no need to go back there for a number of reasons already mentioned (sponsors etc). It's not worth the risk (whether you deem the risk as fair or not).

[GTP]

I wouldn't be arguing for RG on anything other than his coaching record.  I just think the reaction to rumours and conjecture is over the top. He would be a manager of a GAA team he doesn't have to uphold public decency. In the north we have voted for parties representing paramilitaries for 50 years they did worse than domestic abuse and we keep doing it.
If he was appointed I would not like it but I support Derry not the manager or county board and would continue to do so.

[Dire Ear]

RG is the players choice.........QED

And so it came to pass........

[Derryman forever]

I wouldn't be arguing for RG on anything other than his coaching record.  I just think the reaction to rumours and conjecture is over the top. He would be a manager of a GAA team he doesn't have to uphold public decency. In the north we have voted for parties representing paramilitaries for 50 years they did worse than domestic abuse and we keep doing it.
If he was appointed I would not like it but I support Derry not the manager or county board and would continue to do so.

Your point about voting is very true.
We have no problem voting for and supporting very ordinary characters in politics.
And it is just not here in the North. Look south east and west.
Biden or Trump, Starmer or Johnson.
By comparison Rory Gallagher might well be up for sainthood.
There are some very shady characters sitting on the Government benches in the Dáil and not just currently.

[onefineday]

"Never mind the fact hes never once denied or refuted any of the allegations made"
J Donaldson has refuted allegations against him, it makes absolutely no difference as to whether he goes on trial or not is guilty or not and if he gets his old jobs back.
Derry GAA have not appointed RG and if they do, then people can decide to condemn them or not for appointing an alleged domestic abuser. Save your anger for if it happens.

The Donaldson comparison is an interesting one.
For me personally, I've heard stories as to what he has allegedly done, AND I tend to believe them. Thinking about it, that's my own unconscious bias making me feel that way - but I dont know any actual facts. Though the fact its going to court tends to suggest there must be evidence that backs up the allegations.
So yes it's easy to get caught up in the sentiment - not so easy to separate the sentiment from known facts.

I don't begrudge anyone their feelings or opinions on the RG scenario and certainly wouldn't fall out with anyone over it either. For me, I try to base decisions on what I actually know rather than what I've heard.

Could all be a moot point though, as you say he hasn't been appointed and all we know is that there are rumours he might be.
We could get up tomorrow with Mal O'Rourke as the new manager and we'd all be happy.

That was a bit more philosophical than I expected 

RG has had very serious allegations made against him, allegations that most likely impacted on his career, definitely on his earning potential and have seriously affected his public reputation.
But he has never taken the steps you would expect someone in that position to take to clear his name. The allegations were published in a newspaper and widely reported elsewhere, there are avenues available to seek apologies, retractions, even compensation, but I'm not aware of any such steps having been taken.

We talk about being 'cleared' by the gaa to resume duties, but that is misleading. His reluctance to take actions against those who published the allegations was in contrast to his willingness to do whatever was required to get his ban overturned. It was duly overturned, but only because the DRA found that in the circumstances, Ulster gaa had overstepped its jurisdiction by imposing a ban in the first place. That's not the positive affirmation that all is fine and he has nothing to answer that some might have us believe.

There's no doubt he was an innovative and excellent footballing coach, but Derry cannot countenance going near him until we are certain that the allegations were false.

[bannside]

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/derry-manager-mickey-harte-604024

This seems to be the list of runners.

[screenexile]

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/derry-manager-mickey-harte-604024

This seems to be the list of runners.

Useless that. McErlain will stay at minor or move to 20s. Deets is with Armagh I don't think he'll be getting the call and Paddy Tally?? Jesus they're scraping the barrel there we can't take another Tyrone man in!

[Keyser soze]

Lifelong Derry fanatic, desperate to see them succeed and think we are very very close to the top.

But I would rather we never won another game than reappoint Rory Gallagher.

The GAA is about more than just a game, so how can someone with his reputation be appointed to such a position.

I think it is shameful the way some people on here are trying to excuse his conduct for the sake of trying to win some games of football.

[toby47]

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/derry-manager-mickey-harte-604024

This seems to be the list of runners.

Useless that. McErlain will stay at minor or move to 20s. Deets is with Armagh I don't think he'll be getting the call and Paddy Tally?? Jesus they're scraping the barrel there we can't take another Tyrone man in!

Yeah the name is in the website.

Balls.ie

[LoughNeagh]

Lifelong Derry fanatic, desperate to see them succeed and think we are very very close to the top.

But I would rather we never won another game than reappoint Rory Gallagher.

The GAA is about more than just a game, so how can someone with his reputation be appointed to such a position.

I think it is shameful the way some people on here are trying to excuse his conduct for the sake of trying to win some games of football.

Well said!

[toby47]

https://x.com/McCoyNiall/status/1810950409155912023

[Franko]

Lifelong Derry fanatic, desperate to see them succeed and think we are very very close to the top.

But I would rather we never won another game than reappoint Rory Gallagher.

The GAA is about more than just a game, so how can someone with his reputation be appointed to such a position.

I think it is shameful the way some people on here are trying to excuse his conduct for the sake of trying to win some games of football.

If we reappoint Gallagher then Brolly is right.

The GAA in Derry has been commercialised and commodified beyond all recognition and we deserve to win fcuk all.

[Take_her_back_ref]

From the outside looking in I don't understand the clamour for Rory to come back. You've had a year of split in supporters last over Harte and some want to go back to that. Whether there's truth to the allegations or not surely O'Rourke is one who could unite the county and also has the credentials to push the county on.

What choice would other counties make in such a scenario?

[93-DY-SAM]

From the outside looking in I don't understand the clamour for Rory to come back. You've had a year of split in supporters last over Harte and some want to go back to that. Whether there's truth to the allegations or not surely O'Rourke is one who could unite the county and also has the credentials to push the county on.

What choice would other counties make in such a scenario?

What makes people think MOR wants the job in the first instance?

[tbrick18]

https://x.com/McCoyNiall/status/1810950409155912023

This perhaps suggests that neither MOR or RG are in the running?
Clubs nominating, we've been down that road before and I'm not sure it has been a successful process. Prob CB making sure the county is behind any appointment and an attempt to read the room.