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Quote from: Silver hill on July 08, 2024, 09:24:27 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 08, 2024, 08:38:15 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on July 08, 2024, 08:29:08 PMRight...

What's the thoughts on the next manager??

In no particular order...

1.  Rory Gallagher (again)
2.  Malachy O'Rourke
3.  Damian McErlain (again)
4.  Conleith Gilligan

Who else's name will be thrown into the hat??

You can rule Damian out straight away, will not be happening. If anything, he will move to the u20s

So 3, I'm struggling to add to the list.


No way McErlain will be tried again at senior. Massive difference in managing and motivating teenagers as opposed to seniors.
Gilligan is a bluffer and a chancer on the circuit, not a credible option.
I thought that Gilligan had a good reputation as a good coach?

STREET FIGHTER

Quote from: Silver hill on July 08, 2024, 09:20:20 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on July 08, 2024, 08:18:00 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on July 08, 2024, 08:01:18 PMIt was a panic move by Derry last September. They were all in with Bringing RG back until that was option was blocked by Ulster Council. In fairness it's a very very shallow talent pool at that level and that Derry panel wouldn't have tolerated anything less than a big name to build on where RG had taken them too. The appointment was probably more about getting Devlin in than Harte. The gamble has seriously backfired on Derry co board but at least they have moved quickly ( or the players have) to limited the damage. With two or three retirements imminent RG will have no option other than to widen the panel. Though personally, I'd like to see our minors play out their u20 careers rather than plunging them straight into senior.

Chrissy potentially.....who else you thinking?
Possibly Ciaran mcfaul and Emmett Bradley. Though if it's Gallagher he may convince Ciaran to stay on. Emmett won't.

Yeah potentially Emmett B....

Why McFaul though?  What age is he btw?

cornerback

Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on July 08, 2024, 09:34:55 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on July 08, 2024, 09:20:20 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on July 08, 2024, 08:18:00 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on July 08, 2024, 08:01:18 PMIt was a panic move by Derry last September. They were all in with Bringing RG back until that was option was blocked by Ulster Council. In fairness it's a very very shallow talent pool at that level and that Derry panel wouldn't have tolerated anything less than a big name to build on where RG had taken them too. The appointment was probably more about getting Devlin in than Harte. The gamble has seriously backfired on Derry co board but at least they have moved quickly ( or the players have) to limited the damage. With two or three retirements imminent RG will have no option other than to widen the panel. Though personally, I'd like to see our minors play out their u20 careers rather than plunging them straight into senior.

Chrissy potentially.....who else you thinking?
Possibly Ciaran mcfaul and Emmett Bradley. Though if it's Gallagher he may convince Ciaran to stay on. Emmett won't.

Yeah potentially Emmett B....

Why McFaul though?  What age is he btw?
McFaul is 30 afaik

marty34

Am I being a bit odd here but is it not strange that this is announced on Monday night after Derry win a back-to-back minor All-Ireland?

Could they not have kept this tight lipped until Wednesday or Thursday evening?

I think it's a PR disaster for the minor tean.

Doire23

Quote from: marty34 on July 08, 2024, 10:02:36 PMAm I being a bit odd here but is it not strange that this is announced on Monday night after Derry win a back-to-back minor All-Ireland?

Could they not have kept this tight lipped until Wednesday or Thursday evening?

I think it's a PR disaster for the minor tean.

Thought the same myself. Maybe since the word was as good as out yesterday they felt the need to do it, but if the news is already known I don't see the harm in delaying a few days to let the young cubs enjoy their moment.

Noticed the press release was uploaded on the website about the departure but haven't seen any word of it on the official social media channels - may be to not take away from the minors or may be to save the social media notifications lol.

imtommygunn

Not enough being said about minors. Is that three in five years? That is a serious bit of going which has to bode well.

LoughNeagh

View from the lough!

tbrick18

Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on July 08, 2024, 08:29:08 PMRight...

What's the thoughts on the next manager??

In no particular order...

1.  Rory Gallagher (again)
2.  Malachy O'Rourke
3.  Damian McErlain (again)
4.  Conleith Gilligan

Who else's name will be thrown into the hat??

Whilst there is no doubting McErlain's achievements with the minors, I wouldn't want him back at the senior helm. I don't think it suits him and his last spell with the seniors was far from great. Meenagh coming in I believe had a huge impact on getting us out of Div4 and subsequent promotions.

Gilligan - might be a good coach, but I dont think he's intercounty managament material.

O'Rourke - would have been my favorite last year, but since he's turned it down a number of times I feel his heart is not in it. From what I've heard, Tyrone could move for him and that he could be holding out for that job.

Which leaves only RG out of that list. I'd have not bother with him comning back, but backroom team would be just as important. Would Meenagh return with him?

Who else is out there? Jim Gavin? Not sure he'd want it. Can't think of anyone within the county with the credentials.

Duine Inteacht Eile


ONEDerry

I find it hard to believe that with all that is known about Gallagher so many people would be ok with having him back. Hopefully there are enough players with principles will say they will have nothing to do with it. I'd say Ladies players who play for the County will vote with their feet and rightly so.

HiMucker

Quote from: ONEDerry on July 09, 2024, 11:45:38 AMI find it hard to believe that with all that is known about Gallagher so many people would be ok with having him back. Hopefully there are enough players with principles will say they will have nothing to do with it. I'd say Ladies players who play for the County will vote with their feet and rightly so.
+1

shamrocker12

It's looking increasingly likely that RG will return. The saga in Kildare I believe has sped up the situation as they have supposedly approached him. I have a feeling our Co. Board may have had a word with Micky and told him his job was untenable and gave him the opportunity to step down himself and in return clearing the way for the return of RG. His appearance at ulster minor final sitting alongside prominent Co. Board members appears to have been no accident. His return no doubt will spark controversy but one must remember that he has won a case against Ulster Gaa through the DRA so technically nothing can stop him returning. The court of social media will undoubtedly be a cess pit of infighting among derry fans and probably finger pointing from other counties as well towards derry for reinstating him. Was rory employed by a company or what way did this affect his working life? Did he lose his job of employment over the allegations or did employer stick by him? I genuinely don't know and I'm interested to know. Or was the employer legally obliged to sack him due to allegations or place him on leave pending investigation? Once the PSNI and Gardai confirmed there was insufficient evidence did that allow the return to work or did employer distance themselves due to the social media storm? All questions I'd imagine our Co. Board must be asking?

The Trap

The county was split on the original Rory Gallagher story.
The county was split on the Mickey Harte appointment.
The county will be split again if Rory is back.
You would think it is time to unite the county!

tbrick18

Quote from: ONEDerry on July 09, 2024, 11:45:38 AMI find it hard to believe that with all that is known about Gallagher so many people would be ok with having him back. Hopefully there are enough players with principles will say they will have nothing to do with it. I'd say Ladies players who play for the County will vote with their feet and rightly so.

I find it hard to believe that so many people "know" so much about Gallagher.
Reading social media is not knowing.
The only facts I "know" is that his ex made the public allegation, gallagher wasnt charged and the GAA have lifted any ban.
What else do people know?
I've said before, if he was found guilty of something I'd be the first man calling to get rid of him and that's it's jail he should be in. But the court of social media doesnt wash with me.

Any decision made should be a footballing decision.
Or else Central GAA need to issue regulations around participation, in any manner, for anyone with any type of criminal history or accusations made against them. It would have to apply to players, management, boards, clubs, counties etc.

seanyb

Quote from: shamrocker12 on July 09, 2024, 11:48:54 AMIt's looking increasingly likely that RG will return. The saga in Kildare I believe has sped up the situation as they have supposedly approached him. I have a feeling our Co. Board may have had a word with Micky and told him his job was untenable and gave him the opportunity to step down himself and in return clearing the way for the return of RG. His appearance at ulster minor final sitting alongside prominent Co. Board members appears to have been no accident. His return no doubt will spark controversy but one must remember that he has won a case against Ulster Gaa through the DRA so technically nothing can stop him returning. The court of social media will undoubtedly be a cess pit of infighting among derry fans and probably finger pointing from other counties as well towards derry for reinstating him. Was rory employed by a company or what way did this affect his working life? Did he lose his job of employment over the allegations or did employer stick by him? I genuinely don't know and I'm interested to know. Or was the employer legally obliged to sack him due to allegations or place him on leave pending investigation? Once the PSNI and Gardai confirmed there was insufficient evidence did that allow the return to work or did employer distance themselves due to the social media storm? All questions I'd imagine our Co. Board must be asking?

yes his employer stuck by him as he's still currently working with them.