Westminster General Election 2024

[Armagh18]

While nationalism did well to solidify NB and FST, looks like nationalist vote is at 40% if you include Aontu and PBF, whereas Unionism closer to 44%. Surprising considering a poor night for DUP and was hoping like locals it would exceed the Unionist vote. But perhaps reflective that it only needed the extra effort in the two marginal.

Alliance probably getting a lot of the green vote in places SF/SDLP had no hope. NB and FST looking very safe.

[marty34]

We've seen unionist pacts in North Belfast, mid ulster and Fermanagh/ South Tyrone which have failed repeatedly, they're going to need pacts for Upper Bann and East Derry next time...

SDLP have let the nationalist people down badly.

Eastwood is a clown.

Imagine Campbell getting the boot in East Derry.

[marty34]

While I don't like the TUV being in it's hilarious that Paisley is not. Did nothing for anyone and it finally caught up on him. Poor election for Alliance and no great for the DUP either.

Exactly my feelings too. Allister is a **** but he gets stuck in whereas Paisley has been living off his Da's name and filling his coffers.

Ion Óg could do with a holiday!

[Pub Bore]

One interesting thing was the BBC starting a narrative that SF hadn't got the vote out in FST.  It was yer man Julian based on a couple of boxes open from around Dungannon.  Mark Carruthers and Deirdre "Aren't I gorgeous" Heenan latched on to it and started criticising SF for parachuting a "celebrity candidate" into FST and that SF's focus had been too much on the South.  Very strange.

[imtommygunn]

We've seen unionist pacts in North Belfast, mid ulster and Fermanagh/ South Tyrone which have failed repeatedly, they're going to need pacts for Upper Bann and East Derry next time...

SDLP have let the nationalist people down badly.

Eastwood is a clown.

Imagine Campbell getting the boot in East Derry.

Could you explain why you think this? (I'm not criticising your opinion - I'm interested in how you formed it.)

[marty34]

One interesting thing was the BBC starting a narrative that SF hadn't got the vote out in FST.  It was yer man Julian based on a couple of boxes open from around Dungannon.  Mark Carruthers and Deirdre "Aren't I gorgeous" Heenan latched on to it and started criticising SF for parachuting a "celebrity candidate" into FST and that SF's focus had been too much on the South.  Very strange.

Yeah, Fowler was literally bouncing with excitement making that announcement early doos and the studio thn latching on to it.

They interviewed he 5 mins later, and by her chat, tou'd thought she'd won it by a landslide.

It's all about demographics now.

[marty34]

We've seen unionist pacts in North Belfast, mid ulster and Fermanagh/ South Tyrone which have failed repeatedly, they're going to need pacts for Upper Bann and East Derry next time...

SDLP have let the nationalist people down badly.

Eastwood is a clown.

Imagine Campbell getting the boot in East Derry.

Could you explain why you think this? (I'm not criticising your opinion - I'm interested in how you formed it.)

Hanna got a free run in SB & MD but the SDLP (by Eastwood's arrogance) didn't stand aside anywhere.

They stood in LV,  East Derry and FST even (ffs).

As I say, a joke.

[square_ball]

We've seen unionist pacts in North Belfast, mid ulster and Fermanagh/ South Tyrone which have failed repeatedly, they're going to need pacts for Upper Bann and East Derry next time...

SDLP have let the nationalist people down badly.

Eastwood is a clown.

Imagine Campbell getting the boot in East Derry.

But you said in another thread no one cares about Westminster so what difference does it make if SF get one more MP there?

And for what its worth I agree with you regarding Westminster is an irrelevance over here in the grand scheme of things. MLA and local council elections are far more important in my eyes.

[weareros]

We've seen unionist pacts in North Belfast, mid ulster and Fermanagh/ South Tyrone which have failed repeatedly, they're going to need pacts for Upper Bann and East Derry next time...

SDLP have let the nationalist people down badly.

Eastwood is a clown.

Imagine Campbell getting the boot in East Derry.

Could you explain why you think this? (I'm not criticising your opinion - I'm interested in how you formed it.)

I don't think it's right. If SDLP stepped aside, TUV and UUP could follow. Their combined vote still exceeded Hunter by a few thousand. It's getting close and could go to SF next election. It's debatable  whether it's easier won with a pact or a every party for themselves.

[gallsman]

We've seen unionist pacts in North Belfast, mid ulster and Fermanagh/ South Tyrone which have failed repeatedly, they're going to need pacts for Upper Bann and East Derry next time...

SDLP have let the nationalist people down badly.

Eastwood is a clown.

Imagine Campbell getting the boot in East Derry.

Could you explain why you think this? (I'm not criticising your opinion - I'm interested in how you formed it.)

Hanna got a free run in SB & MD but the SDLP (by Eastwood's arrogance) didn't stand aside anywhere.

They stood in LV,  East Derry and FST even (ffs).

As I say, a joke.

Quit your yapping. Democracy is democracy. Standing candidates is not letting anyone down.

[Armagh18]

We've seen unionist pacts in North Belfast, mid ulster and Fermanagh/ South Tyrone which have failed repeatedly, they're going to need pacts for Upper Bann and East Derry next time...

SDLP have let the nationalist people down badly.

Eastwood is a clown.

Imagine Campbell getting the boot in East Derry.

TBF if SDLP didn't stand maybe TUV/UUP wouldnt and theyve newr 8k between them.

If SF had got Aontu's 1k they'd have won it.

100% on your first 2 sentences though!

[Armagh18]

We've seen unionist pacts in North Belfast, mid ulster and Fermanagh/ South Tyrone which have failed repeatedly, they're going to need pacts for Upper Bann and East Derry next time...

SDLP have let the nationalist people down badly.

Eastwood is a clown.

Imagine Campbell getting the boot in East Derry.

Could you explain why you think this? (I'm not criticising your opinion - I'm interested in how you formed it.)

Hanna got a free run in SB & MD but the SDLP (by Eastwood's arrogance) didn't stand aside anywhere.

They stood in LV,  East Derry and FST even (ffs).

As I say, a joke.

A joke is right.

[gallsman]

SF are quick to cry foul when unionists form pacts or one of them stands aside in marginal constituencies. See Elliott winning FST in 2015.

You have no right to anybody's vote. You have to earn it.

[imtommygunn]

I wouldn't agree with that at all. SF stood aside in one place so SDLP should stand aside in 3... I am not sure how that stacks up?

I would agree on Eastwood's arrogance but I don't think the SDLP should stand aside just because you don't like it...

[marty34]

We've seen unionist pacts in North Belfast, mid ulster and Fermanagh/ South Tyrone which have failed repeatedly, they're going to need pacts for Upper Bann and East Derry next time...

SDLP have let the nationalist people down badly.

Eastwood is a clown.

Imagine Campbell getting the boot in East Derry.

But you said in another thread no one cares about Westminster so what difference does it make if SF get one more MP there?

And for what its worth I agree with you regarding Westminster is an irrelevance over here in the grand scheme of things. MLA and local council elections are far more important in my eyes.

Fair point. I stand over that re: Westminister.

What I'm saying SDLP didn't stand aside anywhere.