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tyrone08

Quote from: marty34 on July 03, 2024, 02:41:52 PMIf Harte and Devlin go, by whatever means and somebody else comes in, it'd be better to get it sorted asap.

Harte seems to be getting all the flack but what role does Devlin play?

Is he just the coach?

Just the coach?? Devlin is by far the best coach in the country according to harte. So much so that he has beaten mayo once in 15 years, although not kerry or dublin in 15 years with 3 different counties.

Mario

I can't see RG going to Kildare. The media shit storm being so close to Dublin would be a lot bigger than in one of the Northern counties.

Silver hill

Quote from: Mario on July 03, 2024, 04:06:58 PMI can't see RG going to Kildare. The media shit storm being so close to Dublin would be a lot bigger than in one of the Northern counties.
Geography has feck all to do with it. Flack will be the same whether Kildare, Galway, Donegal or Derry. It's all social media driven. There wold be a bit of a shitstorm alright but that would blow over once the keyboard warriors found someone else to be offended by.

NotedObserver

Surely can move on from Gallagher? A Derry man has to be next if they get rid of Harte.

ardtole

Quote from: Silver hill on July 03, 2024, 06:10:03 PM
Quote from: Mario on July 03, 2024, 04:06:58 PMI can't see RG going to Kildare. The media shit storm being so close to Dublin would be a lot bigger than in one of the Northern counties.
Geography has feck all to do with it. Flack will be the same whether Kildare, Galway, Donegal or Derry. It's all social media driven. There wold be a bit of a shitstorm alright but that would blow over once the keyboard warriors found someone else to be offended by.

I heard the "I believe her" social media following were going to picket building sites that Errigal were working on. That's when the plug was pulled on Gallagher. Once the sponsors are targeted, then things change dramatically.

Silver hill

Quote from: ardtole on July 03, 2024, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on July 03, 2024, 06:10:03 PM
Quote from: Mario on July 03, 2024, 04:06:58 PMI can't see RG going to Kildare. The media shit storm being so close to Dublin would be a lot bigger than in one of the Northern counties.
Geography has feck all to do with it. Flack will be the same whether Kildare, Galway, Donegal or Derry. It's all social media driven. There wold be a bit of a shitstorm alright but that would blow over once the keyboard warriors found someone else to be offended by.

I heard the "I believe her" social media following were going to picket building sites that Errigal were working on. That's when the plug was pulled on Gallagher. Once the sponsors are targeted, then things change dramatically.

Ulster council pulled the pin on Gallagher's return at the time. Took it out of Derry's hands. Gallagher, CEO and sponsor were at the minor final in Omagh last month. Perfectly entitled to do that but they must have been aware of the optics when doing that.

LoughNeagh

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shawshank

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Am I mad? Looking from the outside on the Gallagher thing. Recently lifted for drink driving, assaulting cops. An alcoholic alleging there was domestic abuse. Nothing ever proved, never charged by the PSNI nor Guards. Gallagher has custody of his children because the ex is unable to keep them, she is assessed of not being responsible nor capable, he is assessed as being responsible to keep them by social services after a number of assessments, kids views would have been assessed to. What am I not getting here other then social media?

HiMucker

Quote from: shawshank on July 04, 2024, 11:52:05 AMAm I mad? Looking from the outside on the Gallagher thing. Recently lifted for drink driving, assaulting cops. An alcoholic alleging there was domestic abuse. Nothing ever proved, never charged by the PSNI nor Guards. Gallagher has custody of his children because the ex is unable to keep them, she is assessed of not being responsible nor capable, he is assessed as being responsible to keep them by social services after a number of assessments, kids views would have been assessed to. What am I not getting here other then social media?
There will be fellas in your local that you wouldnt need forensic evidence or convictions to know not to go near or associate with. The fact he never once denied or refuted what his wife put up, only to say that the matter had been dealt with before by the authorities tells you all you need to know. I don't think our quest for glory should blind us of such things. 

seanyb

Quote from: Silver hill on July 03, 2024, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: ardtole on July 03, 2024, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on July 03, 2024, 06:10:03 PM
Quote from: Mario on July 03, 2024, 04:06:58 PMI can't see RG going to Kildare. The media shit storm being so close to Dublin would be a lot bigger than in one of the Northern counties.
Geography has feck all to do with it. Flack will be the same whether Kildare, Galway, Donegal or Derry. It's all social media driven. There wold be a bit of a shitstorm alright but that would blow over once the keyboard warriors found someone else to be offended by.

I heard the "I believe her" social media following were going to picket building sites that Errigal were working on. That's when the plug was pulled on Gallagher. Once the sponsors are targeted, then things change dramatically.

Ulster council pulled the pin on Gallagher's return at the time. Took it out of Derry's hands.
Quote from: Silver hill on July 03, 2024, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: ardtole on July 03, 2024, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on July 03, 2024, 06:10:03 PM
Quote from: Mario on July 03, 2024, 04:06:58 PMI can't see RG going to Kildare. The media shit storm being so close to Dublin would be a lot bigger than in one of the Northern counties.
Geography has feck all to do with it. Flack will be the same whether Kildare, Galway, Donegal or Derry. It's all social media driven. There wold be a bit of a shitstorm alright but that would blow over once the keyboard warriors found someone else to be offended by.

I heard the "I believe her" social media following were going to picket building sites that Errigal were working on. That's when the plug was pulled on Gallagher. Once the sponsors are targeted, then things change dramatically.

Ulster council pulled the pin on Gallagher's return at the time. Took it out of Derry's hands .Gallagher, CEO and sponsor were at the minor final in Omagh last month. Perfectly entitled to do that but they must have been aware of the optics when doing that.
Gallagher, CEO and sponsor were at the minor final in Omagh last month. Perfectly entitled to do that but they must have been aware of the optics when doing that.

I believe this could come back to bite them if I heard correctly.

quit yo jibbajabba

Quote from: HiMucker on July 04, 2024, 02:31:29 PM
Quote from: shawshank on July 04, 2024, 11:52:05 AMAm I mad? Looking from the outside on the Gallagher thing. Recently lifted for drink driving, assaulting cops. An alcoholic alleging there was domestic abuse. Nothing ever proved, never charged by the PSNI nor Guards. Gallagher has custody of his children because the ex is unable to keep them, she is assessed of not being responsible nor capable, he is assessed as being responsible to keep them by social services after a number of assessments, kids views would have been assessed to. What am I not getting here other then social media?
There will be fellas in your local that you wouldnt need forensic evidence or convictions to know not to go near or associate with. The fact he never once denied or refuted what his wife put up, only to say that the matter had been dealt with before by the authorities tells you all you need to know. I don't think our quest for glory should blind us of such things. 

I think there was a fair few of her friends came out at the time and said they had been waiting so long for her to speak out on it Shawshank, even if she's not the most stable this was telling for me. Unless they're all lying of course...

tbrick18

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 04, 2024, 05:48:29 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on July 04, 2024, 02:31:29 PM
Quote from: shawshank on July 04, 2024, 11:52:05 AMAm I mad? Looking from the outside on the Gallagher thing. Recently lifted for drink driving, assaulting cops. An alcoholic alleging there was domestic abuse. Nothing ever proved, never charged by the PSNI nor Guards. Gallagher has custody of his children because the ex is unable to keep them, she is assessed of not being responsible nor capable, he is assessed as being responsible to keep them by social services after a number of assessments, kids views would have been assessed to. What am I not getting here other then social media?
There will be fellas in your local that you wouldnt need forensic evidence or convictions to know not to go near or associate with. The fact he never once denied or refuted what his wife put up, only to say that the matter had been dealt with before by the authorities tells you all you need to know. I don't think our quest for glory should blind us of such things. 

I think there was a fair few of her friends came out at the time and said they had been waiting so long for her to speak out on it Shawshank, even if she's not the most stable this was telling for me. Unless they're all lying of course...

Friends are not exactly impartial, especially in the court of social media.

I've said it before, all any of us "know" is what an ex put on social media.
When those kids grow up, they'll have access to all that detail.
If it has all been handled by the authorities previously, and Gallagher has the kids, why should he put more social media content out there on the subject?
To convince those who believe her on the socials?
Start an online he said she said trail to appease people that can't be appeased and put more content out there that his kids will see some day?
It's possible that's why he hasn't refuted anything perhaps?

Look I don't know what really went on and to be honest it's none of my business.
If he had a guilty verdict I'd want him gone. But he hasn't so far as we know.
The gaa have lifted an Ulster council ban, which I assume must mean they've done their due diligence.
Police have done nothing.
Courts as far as I'm aware have done nothing.

I'd have him back in the morning with that being the case so long as the players were good with it.


NotedObserver

Madness considering Gallagher back, stories well known before the ex spoke out. Though hiring a Tyrone great in Harte is equally mad

paddyjohn

Gallagher is a sc**bag. Simple as. Even considering bringing him back is a complete act of self harm to Derry GAA.

onefineday

Quote from: tbrick18 on July 04, 2024, 07:57:34 PMThe gaa have lifted an Ulster council ban, which I assume must mean they've done their due diligence.
Police have done nothing.
Courts as far as I'm aware have done nothing.

I'd have him back in the morning with that being the case so long as the players were good with it.



My understanding is that he appealed the Ulster gaa ban on the basis that they did not actually have any authority to ban him, the DRA agreed, but interestingly, the DRA also commented that if hypothetically the adult safeguarding panel had the power to ban him, then doing so would not have been unreasonable in the circumstances.
It's a difficult one, but until Gallagher takes whatever steps he needs to in order to clear his name then Derry cannot countenance having him next nor near the team.