Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

[Horse Box]

The shelling of Civilian areas by Ukraine/US/NATO is okay with you then ?

No, of course it is not. Some things will occur in a war that should not and they should be stopped as far as possible. However, the bulk of the blame lies with the country that started the war by invading another one and the war can be stopped by that county withdrawing its forces.

In the twilight zone rambling that we are seeing here, there is a lot of crap about America encouraging Ukraine to join NATO. As far as I know, nobody has ever said that Ukraine should join NATO, but the Ukrainians want to join. In the 1990s Ukraine decommissioned its nuclear weapons and much of its munitions, and it received security guarantees from the US and Russia. Given that Russia has shown every intention of reneging on its agreement Ukraine inevitably sought protection from their other guarantor, WTF do you expect them to do? Lie down and let Russia occupy them?

  https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-ukraine-must-join-nato/

[Horse Box]

The shelling of Civilian areas by Ukraine/US/NATO is okay with you then ?

No, of course it is not. Some things will occur in a war that should not and they should be stopped as far as possible. However, the bulk of the blame lies with the country that started the war by invading another one and the war can be stopped by that county withdrawing its forces.

In the twilight zone rambling that we are seeing here, there is a lot of crap about America encouraging Ukraine to join NATO. As far as I know, nobody has ever said that Ukraine should join NATO, but the Ukrainians want to join. In the 1990s Ukraine decommissioned its nuclear weapons and much of its munitions, and it received security guarantees from the US and Russia. Given that Russia has shown every intention of reneging on its agreement Ukraine inevitably sought protection from their other guarantor, WTF do you expect them to do? Lie down and let Russia occupy them?

Ukraine gave up the Soviet nuclear weapons stationed on its soil of which Ukraine had physical but no effective operational control .

[Horse Box]

Moldova unfortunately getting taught how to do democracy just like Ukraine by their US/NATO Overlords :

https://www.eureporter.co/world/moldova/2024/05/15/moldovan-government-shuts-down-7-additional-tv-channels/

More shut down yesterday !

[Horse Box]

US and many posters here are all in on bringing us closer to nuclear disaster. It's the only way it seems 

100% 

[Horse Box]

Same people here who are cheering on Putin will tell you Chavez was a great leader in Venezuela because he stood up to the US. Forget about the fact the country is/was a kleptocratic police state that violently repressed its own citizens.

What a Utopia Iran turned out to be after the Anglo/American covert operation that overthrew the Elected Government in the 1950`s !

[armaghniac]

What a Utopia Iran turned out to be after the Anglo/American covert operation that overthrew the Elected Government in the 1950`s !

Which of course has nothing to do Ukraine, except that Iran are supplying the materials to invade it.

[seafoid]

The shelling of Civilian areas by Ukraine/US/NATO is okay with you then ?

No, of course it is not. Some things will occur in a war that should not and they should be stopped as far as possible. However, the bulk of the blame lies with the country that started the war by invading another one and the war can be stopped by that county withdrawing its forces.

In the twilight zone rambling that we are seeing here, there is a lot of crap about America encouraging Ukraine to join NATO. As far as I know, nobody has ever said that Ukraine should join NATO, but the Ukrainians want to join. In the 1990s Ukraine decommissioned its nuclear weapons and much of its munitions, and it received security guarantees from the US and Russia. Given that Russia has shown every intention of reneging on its agreement Ukraine inevitably sought protection from their other guarantor, WTF do you expect them to do? Lie down and let Russia occupy them?

Ukraine gave up the Soviet nuclear weapons stationed on its soil of which Ukraine had physical but no effective operational control .

And was given security guarantees by the West.

[Horse Box]

What a Utopia Iran turned out to be after the Anglo/American covert operation that overthrew the Elected Government in the 1950`s !

Which of course has nothing to do Ukraine, except that Iran are supplying the materials to invade it.

Maybe if the good ole US had of stayed out of it in the 50`s Iran might not be suppling anyone with weapons !

[Horse Box]

Another Ukrainian happy to enlist in the Narco Fuhrer`s Army :

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/112050

[dec]

Putin says he will stop the war if Ukraine surrenders

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c033eyyr20do

[burdizzo]

Surely a 'peace summit' without Russia is a complete waste of time?!

[theskull1]

Another Ukrainian happy to enlist in the Narco Fuhrer`s Army :

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/112050

Conscription squads send Ukrainian men into hiding

Will be the same in Ireland when EU coercion eventually breaks our neutrality status. Western elites are itching for a global conflict and they'll need cannon fodder commitments from all partners.
Irish Neutrality in a changing europe

[Gerard O’Neill]

Another Ukrainian happy to enlist in the Narco Fuhrer`s Army :

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/112050

Conscription squads send Ukrainian men into hiding

Will be the same in Ireland when EU coercion eventually breaks our neutrality status. Western elites are itching for a global conflict and they'll need cannon fodder commitments from all partners.
Irish Neutrality in a changing europe

Really don't get the anti-Ukraine sentiment among some board members. Conscription is and always has been a controversial topic in every war it has ever been used in (including WW2).

Russia uses conscription as well but I don't see any criticism of it on here. Also, one side is conscripting to invade and destroy another nation, the other side is conscripting to defend itself. Big difference. If Russia goes home, no more conscription or death for either side. Guess the playboy oligarchs and their families living luxurious lives in the west don't need to worry about it so much.

p.s. the BBC? Really guys? The MSM good enough for you when the storyline suits your preconceived worldview?

[armaghniac]

Will be the same in Ireland when EU coercion eventually breaks our neutrality status. Western elites are itching for a global conflict and they'll need cannon fodder commitments from all partners.
Irish Neutrality in a changing europe

So you do not think that there should be conscription if Ireland is invaded by Russia?

[Horse Box]

Will be the same in Ireland when EU coercion eventually breaks our neutrality status. Western elites are itching for a global conflict and they'll need cannon fodder commitments from all partners.
Irish Neutrality in a changing europe

So you do not think that there should be conscription if Ireland is invaded by Russia?

        Christ what Planet are you living on          ? I`m sure Ireland is a prime target for Russia