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JoG2

Quote from: tbrick18 on June 15, 2024, 11:05:46 PMA few players played well, glass, gilmore, Baker, clucky, mcfaul and mulholland.
Very poor showing from some. Murray (is he injured?),  mcguigan, paul cassidy, mckaigue, Rogers were all very poor. Handling errors, shot selection, effort just not there.

Tactics exactly the same and still not working. A better team would have took advantage.
That was just a stay of execution I feel.

And then no subs made when lads were obviously not performing .

Harte has to go.


Clucky and Baker were immense, they just didn't have the support alot the time. Baker took the game by the scruff of the neck when we needed it. The midfield are too static, few men are supporting and getting in front of the ball. Cassidy, Clucky etc making runs and looking for the out ball and the options just weren't there, so very unDerry like. Thought the back 6 all performed well, big Lynch too. We definitely played with a deeper line, Lynch not competing in midfield, worked well as a link man. Glass was well off it again tonight imo.

Re next weekend, it's bound to be Tyrone isn't it! If so, I'll be bringing ear defenders, could not be listening to those lunatics for 2 hours. Loughlin was working with a S&C man before the match, seemed to be going well. His workrate is really missed. Murphy back in action too. CD prob 50/50 and McKindless back. On paper that's all very positive, though that doesn't seem to be transferring onto the pitch atm.

Mario, hopefully you're right!

Truthsayer

Quote from: JoG2 on June 15, 2024, 11:41:06 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 15, 2024, 11:05:46 PMA few players played well, glass, gilmore, Baker, clucky, mcfaul and mulholland.
Very poor showing from some. Murray (is he injured?),  mcguigan, paul cassidy, mckaigue, Rogers were all very poor. Handling errors, shot selection, effort just not there.

Tactics exactly the same and still not working. A better team would have took advantage.
That was just a stay of execution I feel.

And then no subs made when lads were obviously not performing .

Harte has to go.


Clucky and Baker were immense, they just didn't have the support alot the time. Baker took the game by the scruff of the neck when we needed it. The midfield are too static, few men are supporting and getting in front of the ball. Cassidy, Clucky etc making runs and looking for the out ball and the options just weren't there, so very unDerry like. Thought the back 6 all performed well, big Lynch too. We definitely played with a deeper line, Lynch not competing in midfield, worked well as a link man. Glass was well off it again tonight imo.

Re next weekend, it's bound to be Tyrone isn't it! If so, I'll be bringing ear defenders, could not be listening to those lunatics for 2 hours. Loughlin was working with a S&C man before the match, seemed to be going well. His workrate is really missed. Murphy back in action too. CD prob 50/50 and McKindless back. On paper that's all very positive, though that doesn't seem to be transferring onto the pitch atm.

Mario, hopefully you're right!

Quote from: JoG2 on June 15, 2024, 11:41:06 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 15, 2024, 11:05:46 PMA few players played well, glass, gilmore, Baker, clucky, mcfaul and mulholland.
Very poor showing from some. Murray (is he injured?),  mcguigan, paul cassidy, mckaigue, Rogers were all very poor. Handling errors, shot selection, effort just not there.

Tactics exactly the same and still not working. A better team would have took advantage.
That was just a stay of execution I feel.

And then no subs made when lads were obviously not performing .

Harte has to go.


Clucky and Baker were immense, they just didn't have the support alot the time. Baker took the game by the scruff of the neck when we needed it. The midfield are too static, few men are supporting and getting in front of the ball. Cassidy, Clucky etc making runs and looking for the out ball and the options just weren't there, so very unDerry like. Thought the back 6 all performed well, big Lynch too. We definitely played with a deeper line, Lynch not competing in midfield, worked well as a link man. Glass was well off it again tonight imo.

Re next weekend, it's bound to be Tyrone isn't it! If so, I'll be bringing ear defenders, could not be listening to those lunatics for 2 hours. Loughlin was working with a S&C man before the match, seemed to be going well. His workrate is really missed. Murphy back in action too. CD prob 50/50 and McKindless back. On paper that's all very positive, though that doesn't seem to be transferring onto the pitch atm.

Mario, hopefully you're right!

Quote from: JoG2 on June 15, 2024, 11:41:06 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 15, 2024, 11:05:46 PMA few players played well, glass, gilmore, Baker, clucky, mcfaul and mulholland.
Very poor showing from some. Murray (is he injured?),  mcguigan, paul cassidy, mckaigue, Rogers were all very poor. Handling errors, shot selection, effort just not there.

Tactics exactly the same and still not working. A better team would have took advantage.
That was just a stay of execution I feel.

And then no subs made when lads were obviously not performing .

Harte has to go.


Clucky and Baker were immense, they just didn't have the support alot the time. Baker took the game by the scruff of the neck when we needed it. The midfield are too static, few men are supporting and getting in front of the ball. Cassidy, Clucky etc making runs and looking for the out ball and the options just weren't there, so very unDerry like. Thought the back 6 all performed well, big Lynch too. We definitely played with a deeper line, Lynch not competing in midfield, worked well as a link man. Glass was well off it again tonight imo.

Re next weekend, it's bound to be Tyrone isn't it! If so, I'll be bringing ear defenders, could not be listening to those lunatics for 2 hours. Loughlin was working with a S&C man before the match, seemed to be going well. His workrate is really missed. Murphy back in action too. CD prob 50/50 and McKindless back. On paper that's all very positive, though that doesn't seem to be transferring onto the pitch atm.

Mario, hopefully you're right!

You talking bout your gurus Mickey and his horse? 🤪

JoG2

Quote from: Truthsayer on June 15, 2024, 11:59:02 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 15, 2024, 11:41:06 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 15, 2024, 11:05:46 PMA few players played well, glass, gilmore, Baker, clucky, mcfaul and mulholland.
Very poor showing from some. Murray (is he injured?),  mcguigan, paul cassidy, mckaigue, Rogers were all very poor. Handling errors, shot selection, effort just not there.

Tactics exactly the same and still not working. A better team would have took advantage.
That was just a stay of execution I feel.

And then no subs made when lads were obviously not performing .

Harte has to go.


Clucky and Baker were immense, they just didn't have the support alot the time. Baker took the game by the scruff of the neck when we needed it. The midfield are too static, few men are supporting and getting in front of the ball. Cassidy, Clucky etc making runs and looking for the out ball and the options just weren't there, so very unDerry like. Thought the back 6 all performed well, big Lynch too. We definitely played with a deeper line, Lynch not competing in midfield, worked well as a link man. Glass was well off it again tonight imo.

Re next weekend, it's bound to be Tyrone isn't it! If so, I'll be bringing ear defenders, could not be listening to those lunatics for 2 hours. Loughlin was working with a S&C man before the match, seemed to be going well. His workrate is really missed. Murphy back in action too. CD prob 50/50 and McKindless back. On paper that's all very positive, though that doesn't seem to be transferring onto the pitch atm.

Mario, hopefully you're right!

Quote from: JoG2 on June 15, 2024, 11:41:06 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 15, 2024, 11:05:46 PMA few players played well, glass, gilmore, Baker, clucky, mcfaul and mulholland.
Very poor showing from some. Murray (is he injured?),  mcguigan, paul cassidy, mckaigue, Rogers were all very poor. Handling errors, shot selection, effort just not there.

Tactics exactly the same and still not working. A better team would have took advantage.
That was just a stay of execution I feel.

And then no subs made when lads were obviously not performing .

Harte has to go.


Clucky and Baker were immense, they just didn't have the support alot the time. Baker took the game by the scruff of the neck when we needed it. The midfield are too static, few men are supporting and getting in front of the ball. Cassidy, Clucky etc making runs and looking for the out ball and the options just weren't there, so very unDerry like. Thought the back 6 all performed well, big Lynch too. We definitely played with a deeper line, Lynch not competing in midfield, worked well as a link man. Glass was well off it again tonight imo.

Re next weekend, it's bound to be Tyrone isn't it! If so, I'll be bringing ear defenders, could not be listening to those lunatics for 2 hours. Loughlin was working with a S&C man before the match, seemed to be going well. His workrate is really missed. Murphy back in action too. CD prob 50/50 and McKindless back. On paper that's all very positive, though that doesn't seem to be transferring onto the pitch atm.

Mario, hopefully you're right!

Quote from: JoG2 on June 15, 2024, 11:41:06 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 15, 2024, 11:05:46 PMA few players played well, glass, gilmore, Baker, clucky, mcfaul and mulholland.
Very poor showing from some. Murray (is he injured?),  mcguigan, paul cassidy, mckaigue, Rogers were all very poor. Handling errors, shot selection, effort just not there.

Tactics exactly the same and still not working. A better team would have took advantage.
That was just a stay of execution I feel.

And then no subs made when lads were obviously not performing .

Harte has to go.


Clucky and Baker were immense, they just didn't have the support alot the time. Baker took the game by the scruff of the neck when we needed it. The midfield are too static, few men are supporting and getting in front of the ball. Cassidy, Clucky etc making runs and looking for the out ball and the options just weren't there, so very unDerry like. Thought the back 6 all performed well, big Lynch too. We definitely played with a deeper line, Lynch not competing in midfield, worked well as a link man. Glass was well off it again tonight imo.

Re next weekend, it's bound to be Tyrone isn't it! If so, I'll be bringing ear defenders, could not be listening to those lunatics for 2 hours. Loughlin was working with a S&C man before the match, seemed to be going well. His workrate is really missed. Murphy back in action too. CD prob 50/50 and McKindless back. On paper that's all very positive, though that doesn't seem to be transferring onto the pitch atm.

Mario, hopefully you're right!

You talking bout your gurus Mickey and his horse? 🤪

Bedtime Coco ;D

Brendan

Be better off staying at home than playing Mayo or whoever it may be, Westmeath were the better team

JoG2

Quote from: Brendan on June 16, 2024, 12:08:14 AMBe better off staying at home than playing Mayo or whoever it may be, Westmeath were the better team

That's the spirit

Truthsayer

Quote from: JoG2 on June 16, 2024, 12:15:58 AM
Quote from: Brendan on June 16, 2024, 12:08:14 AMBe better off staying at home than playing Mayo or whoever it may be, Westmeath were the better team

That's the spirit
Fooling nobody. Everyone knows Derry best team in the country with the best manager 🙃

onefineday

Quote from: tbrick18 on June 15, 2024, 11:05:46 PMA few players played well, glass, gilmore, Baker, clucky, mcfaul and mulholland.
Very poor showing from some. Murray (is he injured?),  mcguigan, paul cassidy, mckaigue, Rogers were all very poor. Handling errors, shot selection, effort just not there.

Tactics exactly the same and still not working. A better team would have took advantage.
That was just a stay of execution I feel.

And then no subs made when lads were obviously not performing .

Harte has to go.

The subs thing is baffling, he has absolutely no faith in the bench at all - hardly a way to bring players on.

Agree with the analysis, we were making the same mistakes as in previous games, plenty of bad turnovers and could have been caught a number of times.
I thought baker, clucky and Mulholland were very good - McFaul got man of the match - deserving?
We at least made some line breaks and overlaps today.
The form of our forwards is baffling, Cassidy who was excellent last year has really gone off the boil, Shane has zero confidence, still putting in the work, but just not happening up front. Rodgers the same, trying, but he's a shadow of his former self. I'd nearly put him back to full back where he might contribute more?

Definitely a stay of execution. Mario, you're an optimist, I'll give you that!

Estimator

Individual performances last night were much better than in previous games. Didn't hand the opposition gilt-edged goal opportunities, which is a bonus. Thought the entire defence were decent.. including McKaigue. McFaul / Baker / McCloskey would all have been options for Motm.

Gilmore was showing a decent bit of bite on and off the ball. Dessie Dolan wasn't impressed with him. Gilmore did give one bad ball away. But Baker showed some tactical nous and fouled the man then lay on top of him, assisted by Glass.

Midfield were decent too, always looking for the ball. Glass made a couple of vital defensive interceptions, and scored a couple of points.

Only the Glen lads in the forward line can  come away with any credit. That was probably McGuigans worst (shooting) performance in a Derry jersey, think it was 3 wide, 2 short and one free that just about made it over the bar.

Not sure what Cassidy brings to the team any more - great at running in a straight towards the corner and then turning back. He'd a couple of shooting chances yesterday and looked like he didn't have the confidence to go for it. Could maybe do with some time on the sideline.

Looks like Harte is the same as RG in terms of trusting the bench. All those subs, that eventually came on, could have been made much earlier.

Will the Tyrone game be in Omagh on Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon?  ;)
Ulster League Champions 2009

Mario

Quote from: onefineday on June 16, 2024, 07:49:59 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on June 15, 2024, 11:05:46 PMA few players played well, glass, gilmore, Baker, clucky, mcfaul and mulholland.
Very poor showing from some. Murray (is he injured?),  mcguigan, paul cassidy, mckaigue, Rogers were all very poor. Handling errors, shot selection, effort just not there.

Tactics exactly the same and still not working. A better team would have took advantage.
That was just a stay of execution I feel.

And then no subs made when lads were obviously not performing .

Harte has to go.

The subs thing is baffling, he has absolutely no faith in the bench at all - hardly a way to bring players on.

Agree with the analysis, we were making the same mistakes as in previous games, plenty of bad turnovers and could have been caught a number of times.
I thought baker, clucky and Mulholland were very good - McFaul got man of the match - deserving?
We at least made some line breaks and overlaps today.
The form of our forwards is baffling, Cassidy who was excellent last year has really gone off the boil, Shane has zero confidence, still putting in the work, but just not happening up front. Rodgers the same, trying, but he's a shadow of his former self. I'd nearly put him back to full back where he might contribute more?

Definitely a stay of execution. Mario, you're an optimist, I'll give you that!
There isn't much experience on the bench due to injuries. I can understand why he is reluctant to throw some of those lads into a very important game. He has done good work on the squad this year but we aren't Dublin. We are missing 5 regulars and that impacts the bench. If everyone was fit we'd prob have Murphy, Gilmore, Mulholland, one of our regular 4 half backs, Toner, Emmet Bradley, D Cassidy as options

JoG2

Quote from: Estimator on June 16, 2024, 09:58:33 AMIndividual performances last night were much better than in previous games. Didn't hand the opposition gilt-edged goal opportunities, which is a bonus. Thought the entire defence were decent.. including McKaigue. McFaul / Baker / McCloskey would all have been options for Motm.

Gilmore was showing a decent bit of bite on and off the ball. Dessie Dolan wasn't impressed with him. Gilmore did give one bad ball away. But Baker showed some tactical nous and fouled the man then lay on top of him, assisted by Glass.

Midfield were decent too, always looking for the ball. Glass made a couple of vital defensive interceptions, and scored a couple of points.

Only the Glen lads in the forward line can  come away with any credit. That was probably McGuigans worst (shooting) performance in a Derry jersey, think it was 3 wide, 2 short and one free that just about made it over the bar.

Not sure what Cassidy brings to the team any more - great at running in a straight towards the corner and then turning back. He'd a couple of shooting chances yesterday and looked like he didn't have the confidence to go for it. Could maybe do with some time on the sideline.

Looks like Harte is the same as RG in terms of trusting the bench. All those subs, that eventually came on, could have been made much earlier.

Will the Tyrone game be in Omagh on Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon?  ;)

I feel for Cassidy,and in the same context Ethan. Both are charging forward but just don't have the support of old. Happened Clucky continuously yesterday too, and Baker. Baker ended up going it alone and creating the goal, it was by far the move of the game. McGrogan, McKindless and C Doherty drive continuously, getting ahead of the ball. That's not happening atm.
Can't be easy for the players at the minute, alot of pressure on them. Just need to keep working and backing each other. I'd take Tyrone in a hartebeat, beat them in their own back yard, some suds in Sally's after, KFC Zinger meal to soak it up, land home wearing somebody else's left shoe on the Tuesday

screenexile

Quote from: Brendan on June 16, 2024, 12:08:14 AMBe better off staying at home than playing Mayo or whoever it may be, Westmeath were the better team

Both teams weee fairly poor but Westmeath were not the better team. They had that one lad up front who was decent but other than that they didn't do a pile.

screenexile

We badly need CD and McKinless back for that injection of pace and decisive running that we've been missing the last few games!

Unless we play Dublin (which I can't see tbh) I think we have a puncher's chance against any of the rest.

Wildweasel74

Derry big problem is up front, even with Defence playing well and Midfield OK, some of the shooting in the first half was shocking, alot of good positions but the efforts were terrible plus trying to walk the ball into the nets instead of taking nailed on points.There a no.of lads be seeing the bench if we had a stronger bench.Murray.Cassidy, def lucky to be on.What has happened Rodgers and McGuigan? Rodgers last good game was on Fenton, and he was only OK in Games before that. McGuigan last good game was Roscommon in the league,that 6 games ago, he just ok against Dublin, but the last 4 been brutal.

marty34

Young Murray is a great player.  Always wants to take the shot on. Game lad.

But he likes to put snow on the ball.

His shots are seriously high.

LoughNeagh

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