Things that make you go What the F**k?

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Milltown Row2

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Quote from: gallsman on June 06, 2024, 07:16:42 PMBBC NI "News" devoting its entire programme, save about 90 seconds on a Lyra McKee story to talk about the D Day anniversary.

Never watched it but been in the car today and it was nearly walk to wall stuff, in fairness there won't be too many left after this year.

80 years is a serious anniversary for those still alive, who won't be about to remember it.

I'd a few late 90's and even one lady who was 101 and chatted about those periods..

Crazy times, knowing you were heading to possible death, would that happen today? I doubt it very much, these lads willingly put themselves up for that

Most of them didn't though, they just had normal jobs at the time and were conscripted - saw an interview with one the other day and he said none of them wanted to be there as they knew there was a good chance of being killed, but nothing they could do about it.

But I take your point about nowadays, boys would be coming up with all sorts of disabilities to make sure they couldn't go

Aye, and they'd be  dead right too

Did you fight for your country? Or did you make up that you had a disability? or was the war over before you left primary school?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Armagh18

Quote from: nrico2006 on June 07, 2024, 07:28:37 AMOn the Lyra McKee trial, heard summaries a few times on the radio, but do they actually have any decent evidence against the accused? From what I've heard, it seems very weak.
You'd imagine it would be very very difficult to prove who was there never mind who fired the shot.

nrico2006

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 07, 2024, 09:39:07 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 07, 2024, 07:28:37 AMOn the Lyra McKee trial, heard summaries a few times on the radio, but do they actually have any decent evidence against the accused? From what I've heard, it seems very weak.
You'd imagine it would be very very difficult to prove who was there never mind who fired the shot.

If they could prove who fired the gun, is it murder or manslaughter given the fact that they would have been trying to target a cop and not an innocent bystander?
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

NAG1

Crazy age disparity between the defendants.

two different generations caught up in this madness, sad really.

Armagh18

Quote from: nrico2006 on June 07, 2024, 09:45:26 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 07, 2024, 09:39:07 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 07, 2024, 07:28:37 AMOn the Lyra McKee trial, heard summaries a few times on the radio, but do they actually have any decent evidence against the accused? From what I've heard, it seems very weak.
You'd imagine it would be very very difficult to prove who was there never mind who fired the shot.

If they could prove who fired the gun, is it murder or manslaughter given the fact that they would have been trying to target a cop and not an innocent bystander?
I'm far from an expert but I think it's still murder regardless.

snoopdog

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 07, 2024, 10:28:58 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 07, 2024, 09:45:26 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 07, 2024, 09:39:07 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 07, 2024, 07:28:37 AMOn the Lyra McKee trial, heard summaries a few times on the radio, but do they actually have any decent evidence against the accused? From what I've heard, it seems very weak.
You'd imagine it would be very very difficult to prove who was there never mind who fired the shot.

If they could prove who fired the gun, is it murder or manslaughter given the fact that they would have been trying to target a cop and not an innocent bystander?
I'm far from an expert but I think it's still murder regardless.
I'm no expert either. But if you fire a gun you intend to kill.

AustinPowers

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Quote from: gallsman on June 06, 2024, 07:16:42 PMBBC NI "News" devoting its entire programme, save about 90 seconds on a Lyra McKee story to talk about the D Day anniversary.

Never watched it but been in the car today and it was nearly walk to wall stuff, in fairness there won't be too many left after this year.

80 years is a serious anniversary for those still alive, who won't be about to remember it.

I'd a few late 90's and even one lady who was 101 and chatted about those periods..

Crazy times, knowing you were heading to possible death, would that happen today? I doubt it very much, these lads willingly put themselves up for that

Most of them didn't though, they just had normal jobs at the time and were conscripted - saw an interview with one the other day and he said none of them wanted to be there as they knew there was a good chance of being killed, but nothing they could do about it.

But I take your point about nowadays, boys would be coming up with all sorts of disabilities to make sure they couldn't go

Aye, and they'd be  dead right too

Did you fight for your country? Or did you make up that you had a disability? or was the war over before you left primary school?

Would you willingly  join the British , American, other regimes in their phoney wars?  How many   soldiers  died in Iraq ?  Were  they making the ultimate sacrifice  for British/American freedoms, or was it all based  on a lie?

Milltown Row2

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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2024, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 06, 2024, 07:16:42 PMBBC NI "News" devoting its entire programme, save about 90 seconds on a Lyra McKee story to talk about the D Day anniversary.

Never watched it but been in the car today and it was nearly walk to wall stuff, in fairness there won't be too many left after this year.

80 years is a serious anniversary for those still alive, who won't be about to remember it.

I'd a few late 90's and even one lady who was 101 and chatted about those periods..

Crazy times, knowing you were heading to possible death, would that happen today? I doubt it very much, these lads willingly put themselves up for that

Most of them didn't though, they just had normal jobs at the time and were conscripted - saw an interview with one the other day and he said none of them wanted to be there as they knew there was a good chance of being killed, but nothing they could do about it.

But I take your point about nowadays, boys would be coming up with all sorts of disabilities to make sure they couldn't go

Aye, and they'd be  dead right too

Did you fight for your country? Or did you make up that you had a disability? or was the war over before you left primary school?

Would you willingly  join the British , American, other regimes in their phoney wars?  How many   soldiers  died in Iraq ?  Were  they making the ultimate sacrifice  for British/American freedoms, or was it all based  on a lie?

I asked you a simple enough question, you can answer it or deflect with another question.. WW2/D-Day landings I don't think was a 'phoney' war.

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

AustinPowers

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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2024, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 06, 2024, 07:16:42 PMBBC NI "News" devoting its entire programme, save about 90 seconds on a Lyra McKee story to talk about the D Day anniversary.

Never watched it but been in the car today and it was nearly walk to wall stuff, in fairness there won't be too many left after this year.

80 years is a serious anniversary for those still alive, who won't be about to remember it.

I'd a few late 90's and even one lady who was 101 and chatted about those periods..

Crazy times, knowing you were heading to possible death, would that happen today? I doubt it very much, these lads willingly put themselves up for that

Most of them didn't though, they just had normal jobs at the time and were conscripted - saw an interview with one the other day and he said none of them wanted to be there as they knew there was a good chance of being killed, but nothing they could do about it.

But I take your point about nowadays, boys would be coming up with all sorts of disabilities to make sure they couldn't go

Aye, and they'd be  dead right too

Did you fight for your country? Or did you make up that you had a disability? or was the war over before you left primary school?

Would you willingly  join the British , American, other regimes in their phoney wars?  How many   soldiers  died in Iraq ?  Were  they making the ultimate sacrifice  for British/American freedoms, or was it all based  on a lie?

I asked you a simple enough question, you can answer it or deflect with another question.. WW2/D-Day landings I don't think was a 'phoney' war.



We could be here  all day  with the ins and outs  of it all.  Ireland aren't at war with /invading  another country , and conscription wasn't  compulsory in  the north in the past.

The original  point was about     National service  in Britain . I'm sure many British ,  no matter how patriotic ,  seen the lies that  went on regarding Iraq and Afghanistan.  Could you blame them for  doing whatever it took to avoid being sent somewhere  just to  become cannon fodder?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: AustinPowers on June 07, 2024, 02:19:29 PM
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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2024, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 06, 2024, 07:16:42 PMBBC NI "News" devoting its entire programme, save about 90 seconds on a Lyra McKee story to talk about the D Day anniversary.

Never watched it but been in the car today and it was nearly walk to wall stuff, in fairness there won't be too many left after this year.

80 years is a serious anniversary for those still alive, who won't be about to remember it.

I'd a few late 90's and even one lady who was 101 and chatted about those periods..

Crazy times, knowing you were heading to possible death, would that happen today? I doubt it very much, these lads willingly put themselves up for that

Most of them didn't though, they just had normal jobs at the time and were conscripted - saw an interview with one the other day and he said none of them wanted to be there as they knew there was a good chance of being killed, but nothing they could do about it.

But I take your point about nowadays, boys would be coming up with all sorts of disabilities to make sure they couldn't go

Aye, and they'd be  dead right too

Did you fight for your country? Or did you make up that you had a disability? or was the war over before you left primary school?

Would you willingly  join the British , American, other regimes in their phoney wars?  How many   soldiers  died in Iraq ?  Were  they making the ultimate sacrifice  for British/American freedoms, or was it all based  on a lie?

I asked you a simple enough question, you can answer it or deflect with another question.. WW2/D-Day landings I don't think was a 'phoney' war.



We could be here  all day  with the ins and outs  of it all.  Ireland aren't at war with /invading  another country , and conscription wasn't  compulsory in  the north in the past.

The original  point was about     National service  in Britain . I'm sure many British ,  no matter how patriotic ,  seen the lies that  went on regarding Iraq and Afghanistan.  Could you blame them for  doing whatever it took to avoid being sent somewhere  just to  become cannon fodder?

The original post was

 BBC NI "News" devoting its entire programme, save about 90 seconds on a Lyra McKee story to talk about the D Day anniversary.

Not conscription but that came after my post. It was also about the D-Day landings and not about Iraq or phoney wars or lies being told. That's entirely true but not relevant 

Ireland, to some, have been at war with the Brits to put in place an United Ireland, the place is still occupied  ;)

And to top it off, I'm not a big fan of wars, but the second world war did happen and these lads (40%) volunteered to go.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

AustinPowers

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2024, 02:39:19 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 07, 2024, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2024, 12:03:14 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 07, 2024, 11:35:03 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 07, 2024, 09:05:51 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 07, 2024, 12:50:08 AM
Quote from: Deerstalker on June 06, 2024, 10:08:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 06, 2024, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: gallsman on June 06, 2024, 07:16:42 PMBBC NI "News" devoting its entire programme, save about 90 seconds on a Lyra McKee story to talk about the D Day anniversary.

Never watched it but been in the car today and it was nearly walk to wall stuff, in fairness there won't be too many left after this year.

80 years is a serious anniversary for those still alive, who won't be about to remember it.

I'd a few late 90's and even one lady who was 101 and chatted about those periods..

Crazy times, knowing you were heading to possible death, would that happen today? I doubt it very much, these lads willingly put themselves up for that

Most of them didn't though, they just had normal jobs at the time and were conscripted - saw an interview with one the other day and he said none of them wanted to be there as they knew there was a good chance of being killed, but nothing they could do about it.

But I take your point about nowadays, boys would be coming up with all sorts of disabilities to make sure they couldn't go

Aye, and they'd be  dead right too

Did you fight for your country? Or did you make up that you had a disability? or was the war over before you left primary school?

Would you willingly  join the British , American, other regimes in their phoney wars?  How many   soldiers  died in Iraq ?  Were  they making the ultimate sacrifice  for British/American freedoms, or was it all based  on a lie?

I asked you a simple enough question, you can answer it or deflect with another question.. WW2/D-Day landings I don't think was a 'phoney' war.



We could be here  all day  with the ins and outs  of it all.  Ireland aren't at war with /invading  another country , and conscription wasn't  compulsory in  the north in the past.

The original  point was about     National service  in Britain . I'm sure many British ,  no matter how patriotic ,  seen the lies that  went on regarding Iraq and Afghanistan.  Could you blame them for  doing whatever it took to avoid being sent somewhere  just to  become cannon fodder?

The original post was

 BBC NI "News" devoting its entire programme, save about 90 seconds on a Lyra McKee story to talk about the D Day anniversary.

Not conscription but that came after my post. It was also about the D-Day landings and not about Iraq or phoney wars or lies being told. That's entirely true but not relevant 

Ireland, to some, have been at war with the Brits to put in place an United Ireland, the place is still occupied  ;)

And to top it off, I'm not a big fan of wars, but the second world war did happen and these lads (40%) volunteered to go.

I meant my original post responding to  the bit of your post...

"boys would be coming up with all sorts of disabilities to make sure they couldn't go "

I'm not  a fan of wars either , but the economic circumstances at the time (WW1/WW2) were different, which influenced  numbers signing up . But,  I doubt 40% would volunteer  in today's climate

gallsman

Here's an idea, how about you both f**k up.

AustinPowers


Milltown Row2

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

RedHand88

Looks like there wasn't a big one of work done the day men! Productive Friday.