Sam Maguire 2024 Group 1 - Galway, Armagh, Derry, Westmeath

[God14]

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Lolol

[gallsman]

The Brendan Rogers fist pass that went badly off target leading to the second goal, it's difficult to legislate for such poor implementation of the basics ...  never mind Rogers lack of an attempt to get a tackle in on the way up the field ...

https://youtu.be/N_N7bbRteTA?t=156

Rodgers had more than a couple of sloppy plays yesterday, but in fairness to him, he sprinted the whole way back. Not sure who you want him to tackle when the ball is 20 yards up the field ahead of him.

I think it's wrong to pin point mistakes like this - they things happen to every player.  Look at the Louth ball out yesterday, plus the Westmeath cross-field pass.  All three resulted in goals.
These things happen. All players, managers and referees etc. make mistakes.  They don't need to.

The pass didn't loss Derry the game. It was lost when the referee threw up the ball.   

Nothing more than an observation. Derry's midfield is normally such a platform for them and yesterday they were wiped out

[Midman]

The Brendan Rogers fist pass that went badly off target leading to the second goal, it's difficult to legislate for such poor implementation of the basics ...  never mind Rogers lack of an attempt to get a tackle in on the way up the field ...

https://youtu.be/N_N7bbRteTA?t=156

Rodgers had more than a couple of sloppy plays yesterday, but in fairness to him, he sprinted the whole way back. Not sure who you want him to tackle when the ball is 20 yards up the field ahead of him.

I think it's wrong to pin point mistakes like this - they things happen to every player.  Look at the Louth ball out yesterday, plus the Westmeath cross-field pass.  All three resulted in goals.
These things happen. All players, managers and referees etc. make mistakes.  They don't need to.

The pass didn't loss Derry the game. It was lost when the referee threw up the ball.   

Nothing more than an observation. Derry's midfield is normally such a platform for them and yesterday they were wiped out

The three Armagh boys across the middle were phenomenal, haven't enjoyed a game so much in a long long time. Just hope we can follow it up with a performance against Galway

[yellowcard]

The Brendan Rogers fist pass that went badly off target leading to the second goal, it's difficult to legislate for such poor implementation of the basics ...  never mind Rogers lack of an attempt to get a tackle in on the way up the field ...

https://youtu.be/N_N7bbRteTA?t=156

Rodgers had more than a couple of sloppy plays yesterday, but in fairness to him, he sprinted the whole way back. Not sure who you want him to tackle when the ball is 20 yards up the field ahead of him.

I think it's wrong to pin point mistakes like this - they things happen to every player.  Look at the Louth ball out yesterday, plus the Westmeath cross-field pass.  All three resulted in goals.
These things happen. All players, managers and referees etc. make mistakes.  They don't need to.

The pass didn't loss Derry the game. It was lost when the referee threw up the ball.   

Nothing more than an observation. Derry's midfield is normally such a platform for them and yesterday they were wiped out

The three Armagh boys across the middle were phenomenal, haven't enjoyed a game so much in a long long time. Just hope we can follow it up with a performance against Galway

It was reminiscent of 2022 when we steamrolled Tyrone and Donegal. Fast, front foot and aggressive in the tackle. We have nothing to lose as nobody expects us to win Sam. Just keep playing like that and see where it takes us, we've shown we have the firepower.

That was the best midfield performance in a long while. Crealey has won me over with his performances this championship and we know what Rian is capable of. The big surprise was Grimleys selection but he more than justified it, he's always had the ability but seemed luckless with injuries at times.

[AustinPowers]

The Brendan Rogers fist pass that went badly off target leading to the second goal, it's difficult to legislate for such poor implementation of the basics ...  never mind Rogers lack of an attempt to get a tackle in on the way up the field ...

https://youtu.be/N_N7bbRteTA?t=156

Rodgers had more than a couple of sloppy plays yesterday, but in fairness to him, he sprinted the whole way back. Not sure who you want him to tackle when the ball is 20 yards up the field ahead of him.

I think it's wrong to pin point mistakes like this - they things happen to every player.  Look at the Louth ball out yesterday, plus the Westmeath cross-field pass.  All three resulted in goals.
These things happen. All players, managers and referees etc. make mistakes.  They don't need to.

The pass didn't loss Derry the game. It was lost when the referee threw up the ball.   

Nothing more than an observation. Derry's midfield is normally such a platform for them and yesterday they were wiped out

The three Armagh boys across the middle were phenomenal, haven't enjoyed a game so much in a long long time. Just hope we can follow it up with a performance against Galway

It was reminiscent of 2022 when we steamrolled Tyrone and Donegal. Fast, front foot and aggressive in the tackle. We have nothing to lose as nobody expects us to win Sam. Just keep playing like that and see where it takes us, we've shown we have the firepower.

That was the best midfield performance in a long while. Crealey has won me over with his performances this championship and we know what Rian is capable of. The big surprise was Grimleys selection but he more than justified it, he's always had the ability but seemed luckless with injuries at times.

Absolutely. 

The  belief Armagh can take from yesterday  , that if they continue to set up like this , they could very well  have the beating of any team.

I just hope they don't retreat  back into their shell  again , as that would be  an absolute waste.

[Captain Obvious]

The Brendan Rogers fist pass that went badly off target leading to the second goal, it's difficult to legislate for such poor implementation of the basics ...  never mind Rogers lack of an attempt to get a tackle in on the way up the field ...

https://youtu.be/N_N7bbRteTA?t=156

Rodgers had more than a couple of sloppy plays yesterday, but in fairness to him, he sprinted the whole way back. Not sure who you want him to tackle when the ball is 20 yards up the field ahead of him.

I think it's wrong to pin point mistakes like this - they things happen to every player.  Look at the Louth ball out yesterday, plus the Westmeath cross-field pass.  All three resulted in goals.
These things happen. All players, managers and referees etc. make mistakes.  They don't need to.

The pass didn't loss Derry the game. It was lost when the referee threw up the ball.   

Nothing more than an observation. Derry's midfield is normally such a platform for them and yesterday they were wiped out

The three Armagh boys across the middle were phenomenal, haven't enjoyed a game so much in a long long time. Just hope we can follow it up with a performance against Galway

It was reminiscent of 2022 when we steamrolled Tyrone and Donegal. Fast, front foot and aggressive in the tackle. We have nothing to lose as nobody expects us to win Sam. Just keep playing like that and see where it takes us, we've shown we have the firepower.

That was the best midfield performance in a long while. Crealey has won me over with his performances this championship and we know what Rian is capable of. The big surprise was Grimleys selection but he more than justified it, he's always had the ability but seemed luckless with injuries at times.

Absolutely. 

The  belief Armagh can take from yesterday  , that if they continue to set up like this , they could very well  have the beating of any team.

I just hope they don't retreat  back into their shell  again , as that would be  an absolute waste.

Don't think it will be a case of retreat back into their shell more Galway next will be a lot more defensive and organised than Derry was yesterday so a possible war attrition that game could be.

[tbrick18]

The Brendan Rogers fist pass that went badly off target leading to the second goal, it's difficult to legislate for such poor implementation of the basics ...  never mind Rogers lack of an attempt to get a tackle in on the way up the field ...

https://youtu.be/N_N7bbRteTA?t=156

Rodgers had more than a couple of sloppy plays yesterday, but in fairness to him, he sprinted the whole way back. Not sure who you want him to tackle when the ball is 20 yards up the field ahead of him.

I think it's wrong to pin point mistakes like this - they things happen to every player.  Look at the Louth ball out yesterday, plus the Westmeath cross-field pass.  All three resulted in goals.
These things happen. All players, managers and referees etc. make mistakes.  They don't need to.

The pass didn't loss Derry the game. It was lost when the referee threw up the ball.   

Nothing more than an observation. Derry's midfield is normally such a platform for them and yesterday they were wiped out

The three Armagh boys across the middle were phenomenal, haven't enjoyed a game so much in a long long time. Just hope we can follow it up with a performance against Galway

It was reminiscent of 2022 when we steamrolled Tyrone and Donegal. Fast, front foot and aggressive in the tackle. We have nothing to lose as nobody expects us to win Sam. Just keep playing like that and see where it takes us, we've shown we have the firepower.

That was the best midfield performance in a long while. Crealey has won me over with his performances this championship and we know what Rian is capable of. The big surprise was Grimleys selection but he more than justified it, he's always had the ability but seemed luckless with injuries at times.

Absolutely. 

The  belief Armagh can take from yesterday  , that if they continue to set up like this , they could very well  have the beating of any team.

I just hope they don't retreat  back into their shell  again , as that would be  an absolute waste.

Honestly not trying to take away from Armagh here, but as good as they were yesterday, I wouldn't put too much weight behind the just yet. Derry were so bad it's hard to really judge where Armagh are based only on that game.
But follow it up with a similar statement win against Galway, and Armagh will be spoken about in different terms.

[balladmaker]

Agreed tbrick18, that's exactly how I see it ... winning at a canter against a Derry team not up for the fight is one thing, backing it up the next day would be confirmation that Armagh are undisputedly trending upwards in the pecking order.  But that is exactly the opportunity that McGeeney and Armagh want to have, and no better team to square up to than Galway.

[armaghniac]

I don't expect Armagh to make a signature win against Galway, a couple of points will do.

[Blowitupref]

The Brendan Rogers fist pass that went badly off target leading to the second goal, it's difficult to legislate for such poor implementation of the basics ...  never mind Rogers lack of an attempt to get a tackle in on the way up the field ...

https://youtu.be/N_N7bbRteTA?t=156

Rodgers had more than a couple of sloppy plays yesterday, but in fairness to him, he sprinted the whole way back. Not sure who you want him to tackle when the ball is 20 yards up the field ahead of him.

I think it's wrong to pin point mistakes like this - they things happen to every player.  Look at the Louth ball out yesterday, plus the Westmeath cross-field pass.  All three resulted in goals.
These things happen. All players, managers and referees etc. make mistakes.  They don't need to.

The pass didn't loss Derry the game. It was lost when the referee threw up the ball.   

Nothing more than an observation. Derry's midfield is normally such a platform for them and yesterday they were wiped out

Similar against Galway in round 1 and 35 year old Paul Conroy was voted player of the week for his performance against Derry's highly rated midfield.

[Armagh18]

The Brendan Rogers fist pass that went badly off target leading to the second goal, it's difficult to legislate for such poor implementation of the basics ...  never mind Rogers lack of an attempt to get a tackle in on the way up the field ...

https://youtu.be/N_N7bbRteTA?t=156

Rodgers had more than a couple of sloppy plays yesterday, but in fairness to him, he sprinted the whole way back. Not sure who you want him to tackle when the ball is 20 yards up the field ahead of him.

I think it's wrong to pin point mistakes like this - they things happen to every player.  Look at the Louth ball out yesterday, plus the Westmeath cross-field pass.  All three resulted in goals.
These things happen. All players, managers and referees etc. make mistakes.  They don't need to.

The pass didn't loss Derry the game. It was lost when the referee threw up the ball.   

Nothing more than an observation. Derry's midfield is normally such a platform for them and yesterday they were wiped out

The three Armagh boys across the middle were phenomenal, haven't enjoyed a game so much in a long long time. Just hope we can follow it up with a performance against Galway

It was reminiscent of 2022 when we steamrolled Tyrone and Donegal. Fast, front foot and aggressive in the tackle. We have nothing to lose as nobody expects us to win Sam. Just keep playing like that and see where it takes us, we've shown we have the firepower.

That was the best midfield performance in a long while. Crealey has won me over with his performances this championship and we know what Rian is capable of. The big surprise was Grimleys selection but he more than justified it, he's always had the ability but seemed luckless with injuries at times.

Yeah midfield is where we thought we'd struggle this year, fair play to Crealey whos been excellent

[tonto1888]

The Brendan Rogers fist pass that went badly off target leading to the second goal, it's difficult to legislate for such poor implementation of the basics ...  never mind Rogers lack of an attempt to get a tackle in on the way up the field ...

https://youtu.be/N_N7bbRteTA?t=156

Rodgers had more than a couple of sloppy plays yesterday, but in fairness to him, he sprinted the whole way back. Not sure who you want him to tackle when the ball is 20 yards up the field ahead of him.

I think it's wrong to pin point mistakes like this - they things happen to every player.  Look at the Louth ball out yesterday, plus the Westmeath cross-field pass.  All three resulted in goals.
These things happen. All players, managers and referees etc. make mistakes.  They don't need to.

The pass didn't loss Derry the game. It was lost when the referee threw up the ball.   

Nothing more than an observation. Derry's midfield is normally such a platform for them and yesterday they were wiped out

The three Armagh boys across the middle were phenomenal, haven't enjoyed a game so much in a long long time. Just hope we can follow it up with a performance against Galway

It was reminiscent of 2022 when we steamrolled Tyrone and Donegal. Fast, front foot and aggressive in the tackle. We have nothing to lose as nobody expects us to win Sam. Just keep playing like that and see where it takes us, we've shown we have the firepower.

That was the best midfield performance in a long while. Crealey has won me over with his performances this championship and we know what Rian is capable of. The big surprise was Grimleys selection but he more than justified it, he's always had the ability but seemed luckless with injuries at times.

Yeah midfield is where we thought we'd struggle this year, fair play to Crealey whos been excellent

Really makes a difference when he goes up to catch the ball with both hands. He has been great this year

[brokencrossbar1]

Galway generally are strong around the middle so I would actually go stronger again and start Oisín O Neill as well. Basically play 4 across the middle. It would be harsh maybe but I'd not start Soupy. He was alright the other day but not as effective as he could be. Play effectively a 4 man MF with a 4 man forward line of Grugan, Kelly, Conaty and Turbitt. You then have an awful lot of options off the bench though I suspect that perhaps there is not a full 70 in Rian or Oisín and this is the way they are being spelled. I'd go for the throat though and put Galway on the back foot from the very start. 

[Sandy Hill]

Anyone know the situation re Andy Murnin?

[bennydorano]

The Galway match is just one for winning, it could be a dour watch for neutrals.

Would we have won that way yesterday with Ciaran Mackin, Murnin and Peter McGrane (as Ross McQuillan made such a huge difference)? Probably not, maybe the unfortunate circumstances could give the management more impetus to be brave every time