Sam Maguire 2024 Group 1 - Galway, Armagh, Derry, Westmeath

[marty34]

I'd say Derry's current problems are more to do with injuries, fatigue and abandoning the highly disciplined way they played under Gallagher. They've been hard at it for a few years now moving up the league tables, pushing themselves hard. Great footballers and will be back. Would not rule out Derry beating a 2nd placed team in the prelims. Mayo Derry would be tasty.

You're taking it that Derry have already qualified in 3rd place.

Wouldn't go down that route just yet.

[armaghniac]

I'd say Derry's current problems are more to do with injuries, fatigue and abandoning the highly disciplined way they played under Gallagher. They've been hard at it for a few years now moving up the league tables, pushing themselves hard. Great footballers and will be back. Would not rule out Derry beating a 2nd placed team in the prelims. Mayo Derry would be tasty.

You're taking it that Derry have already qualified in 3rd place.

Wouldn't go down that route just yet.

Westmeath will be ard enough for a team not firing on all cylinders.
But possibly Derry will beat them and Cork will beat Tyrone, giving a preliminary QF between Donegal and Derry!! 

[Armagh18]

The problem for Derry is who decided a foreign training session, then silly enough to think they could trust players staying out there another 3 days by themselves. That's were the management fell down, and the fall out been very evident ever since

Surely you can trust a group of adults to spend a few days on holiday without anything going too wrong or you'd like to think so.

[Armagh18]

Funny how things change. Harte was the best thing since sliced bread a few months ago. Don't think the blame is solely with him but how on earth they're still letting Lynch come up the field I don't know.

[tbrick18]

I'd say Derry's current problems are more to do with injuries, fatigue and abandoning the highly disciplined way they played under Gallagher. They've been hard at it for a few years now moving up the league tables, pushing themselves hard. Great footballers and will be back. Would not rule out Derry beating a 2nd placed team in the prelims. Mayo Derry would be tasty.

You're taking it that Derry have already qualified in 3rd place.

Wouldn't go down that route just yet.

Westmeath will be ard enough for a team not firing on all cylinders.
But possibly Derry will beat them and Cork will beat Tyrone, giving a preliminary QF between Donegal and Derry!! 

Playing the way we are, Westmeath will beat us.

[screenexile]

Harte hanging the players out to dry isn't a great look either!! Needs to take his share of the blame for how open the team are from opposition kickouts.

[Armagh18]

Harte hanging the players out to dry isn't a great look either!! Needs to take his share of the blame for how open the team are from opposition kickouts.

Surely a blind man could see we were targeting that, Conatys chance early on where he it the bar came from a long kick out and flick down by Grimley!

[tbrick18]

Harte hanging the players out to dry isn't a great look either!! Needs to take his share of the blame for how open the team are from opposition kickouts.

Surely a blind man could see we were targeting that, Conatys chance early on where he it the bar came from a long kick out and flick down by Grimley!

Yep. And we've been saying that since the Donegal game.

[Armagh18]

Harte hanging the players out to dry isn't a great look either!! Needs to take his share of the blame for how open the team are from opposition kickouts.

Surely a blind man could see we were targeting that, Conatys chance early on where he it the bar came from a long kick out and flick down by Grimley!

Yep. And we've been saying that since the Donegal game.

Agent Harte! Absolute madness. Someone said Derry management were screaming at Lynch to come out.

[tiempo]

Remember horse screaming at Conor Gormley in a league game at Croke a few moons ago, went something like this ... Gormley! Gormley! Gormley! Gormley! Gormley! Gormley! Gormley! Gormley! Gormley! Gormley! Gormley! Gormley!

He finally looked over ... to which horse said ... "come on to f**k!"

High end stuff

[RedHand88]

Westmeath practicing long kickouts this week.

[balladmaker]

The Brendan Rogers fist pass that went badly off target leading to the second goal, it's difficult to legislate for such poor implementation of the basics ...  never mind Rogers lack of an attempt to get a tackle in on the way up the field ...

https://youtu.be/N_N7bbRteTA?t=156

[Armagh18]

The Brendan Rogers fist pass that went badly off target leading to the second goal, it's difficult to legislate for such poor implementation of the basics ...  never mind Rogers lack of an attempt to get a tackle in on the way up the field ...

https://youtu.be/N_N7bbRteTA?t=156

Probably not the best idea to leave a fella like Turbitt with only the goalkeeper in his half

[gallsman]

The Brendan Rogers fist pass that went badly off target leading to the second goal, it's difficult to legislate for such poor implementation of the basics ...  never mind Rogers lack of an attempt to get a tackle in on the way up the field ...

https://youtu.be/N_N7bbRteTA?t=156

Rodgers had more than a couple of sloppy plays yesterday, but in fairness to him, he sprinted the whole way back. Not sure who you want him to tackle when the ball is 20 yards up the field ahead of him.

[marty34]

The Brendan Rogers fist pass that went badly off target leading to the second goal, it's difficult to legislate for such poor implementation of the basics ...  never mind Rogers lack of an attempt to get a tackle in on the way up the field ...

https://youtu.be/N_N7bbRteTA?t=156

Rodgers had more than a couple of sloppy plays yesterday, but in fairness to him, he sprinted the whole way back. Not sure who you want him to tackle when the ball is 20 yards up the field ahead of him.

I think it's wrong to pin point mistakes like this - they things happen to every player.  Look at the Louth ball out yesterday, plus the Westmeath cross-field pass.  All three resulted in goals.
These things happen. All players, managers and referees etc. make mistakes.  They don't need to.

The pass didn't loss Derry the game. It was lost when the referee threw up the ball.