NFL Division 1 2024

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thewobbler

Referees have been called back, at the next break in play, by umpires and linesmen to discuss off-the-ball incidents, since forever and a day. Some will act on their fellow official's advice and administer cards, some will not. But I don't yet think I've ever seen the previous passage of play cancelled as a result of the retrospective card / cards.

I think some people have been watching too much association football and its bizarre and erratic implementation of VAR, and gotten confused.

nrico2006

Quote from: thewobbler on April 01, 2024, 11:03:05 AMReferees have been called back, at the next break in play, by umpires and linesmen to discuss off-the-ball incidents, since forever and a day. Some will act on their fellow official's advice and administer cards, some will not. But I don't yet think I've ever seen the previous passage of play cancelled as a result of the retrospective card / cards.

I think some people have been watching too much association football and its bizarre and erratic implementation of VAR, and gotten confused.

Nah, common sense really. Throw ball should be the next step at a minimum.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

thewobbler

Quote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2024, 11:19:25 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 01, 2024, 11:03:05 AMReferees have been called back, at the next break in play, by umpires and linesmen to discuss off-the-ball incidents, since forever and a day. Some will act on their fellow official's advice and administer cards, some will not. But I don't yet think I've ever seen the previous passage of play cancelled as a result of the retrospective card / cards.

I think some people have been watching too much association football and its bizarre and erratic implementation of VAR, and gotten confused.

Nah, common sense really. Throw ball should be the next step at a minimum.

And what if from the resultant passage of play, a high ball goes in, two players challenge awkwardly, then get up off the floor and beat the reed out of each other in front of the referee?

Is it commonsense to ignore that passage of play too and just take the game back to a free for Derry where Fenton's lash out took place?




thewobbler

... or a more likely scenario with modern cynical coaching...

Chrissy McKaigue spots that the linesman is going to call play back, and this passage of play is irrelevant, so takes the opportunity to land a high tackle on Con O'Callaghan.

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This post is in no way indicative of Chrissy McKaigue's temperament. He's a fabulous baller. This is purely for the purposes of example.

Milltown Row2

It's crazy the amount of Gaels who haven't a fecking clue about the actual rules!!

But have no problem squealing at the ref!

Read he rules and understand them

Did a rules test the other day, 97% in hurling rules and the best I did in the football rules was 89%

There are some rules on the test that are strange to say the least and not common sense. But don't get confused with soccer
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

thewobbler

As for a "throw ball at a minimum".

The best technique a team could use to get the ball quickly up field, when protecting or defending a slender lead would be for their corner forward to start wrestling with an opponent in front of the umpires every time the opposition looks ominous.

seafoid

Should Derry risk injuries and try to win Ulster or opt out to be ready or the big prize ?


STREET FIGHTER

Quote from: seafoid on April 01, 2024, 11:42:02 AMShould Derry risk injuries and try to win Ulster or opt out to be ready or the big prize ?



Try to win Ulster

Brendan

Quote from: seafoid on April 01, 2024, 11:42:02 AMShould Derry risk injuries and try to win Ulster or opt out to be ready or the big prize ?



Enough breaks between games to manage it and looking at form Donegal are their biggest challenge and they have them first day out so worth a good cracking at it for the seeding also

Keyser soze

On Conor Lane, I would say every ref gets decisions wrong during a game.

But he has a tendency to get more of them wrong in favour of Dublin. Like for tbe Derry penalty, if that had been Con tackled like that there would have ben zero hesitation and no consultarion needed in giving the penalty.

He has always ben appalling when refereeing Derry IMO, a performance against Galway a few years ago in particlular sticks in mind. By that reference point, yesterday he was fairly even-handed, both teams got some soft frees Dublin got a couple that were nowhere near fouls though.

Hes not alone in that of course the Dubs at home will always have that advantage

nrico2006

Quote from: thewobbler on April 01, 2024, 11:27:10 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2024, 11:19:25 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 01, 2024, 11:03:05 AMReferees have been called back, at the next break in play, by umpires and linesmen to discuss off-the-ball incidents, since forever and a day. Some will act on their fellow official's advice and administer cards, some will not. But I don't yet think I've ever seen the previous passage of play cancelled as a result of the retrospective card / cards.

I think some people have been watching too much association football and its bizarre and erratic implementation of VAR, and gotten confused.

Nah, common sense really. Throw ball should be the next step at a minimum.

And what if from the resultant passage of play, a high ball goes in, two players challenge awkwardly, then get up off the floor and beat the reed out of each other in front of the referee?

Is it commonsense to ignore that passage of play too and just take the game back to a free for Derry where Fenton's lash out took place?


You can come up with as many obscure scenarios as you want, point is that it doesn't seem right that Dublin get the 45 after one of their players commits a foul that warranted a red card.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

cornerback

https://x.com/so_92/status/1774758687636070636?s=46&t=F_sQ_3viFZ6zidQYNagDEA

Good angle to show that Lane didn't see the incident at the time. Turn round due to the crowd's reaction

tonto1888

Quote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2024, 12:58:57 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 01, 2024, 11:27:10 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2024, 11:19:25 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 01, 2024, 11:03:05 AMReferees have been called back, at the next break in play, by umpires and linesmen to discuss off-the-ball incidents, since forever and a day. Some will act on their fellow official's advice and administer cards, some will not. But I don't yet think I've ever seen the previous passage of play cancelled as a result of the retrospective card / cards.

I think some people have been watching too much association football and its bizarre and erratic implementation of VAR, and gotten confused.

Nah, common sense really. Throw ball should be the next step at a minimum.

And what if from the resultant passage of play, a high ball goes in, two players challenge awkwardly, then get up off the floor and beat the reed out of each other in front of the referee?

Is it commonsense to ignore that passage of play too and just take the game back to a free for Derry where Fenton's lash out took place?


You can come up with as many obscure scenarios as you want, point is that it doesn't seem right that Dublin get the 45 after one of their players commits a foul that warranted a red card.

What are the actual rules on that? I'm assuming you have read them

Derryman forever

Quote from: cornerback on April 01, 2024, 01:20:29 PMhttps://x.com/so_92/status/1774758687636070636?s=46&t=F_sQ_3viFZ6zidQYNagDEA

Good angle to show that Lane didn't see the incident at the time. Turn round due to the crowd's reaction

So he turned around, observed a player lying on the ground and an opponent standing over him, but didn't think to stop play to adjudicate.
That  seems like good refereeing.

Mario

Quote from: seafoid on April 01, 2024, 11:42:02 AMShould Derry risk injuries and try to win Ulster or opt out to be ready or the big prize ?


You want the top seed. Lose it and you could be in a group with Kerry or Dublin which means a preliminary quarter final is more likely and we all know how those teams struggled last year with games week on week