NFL Division 1 2024

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Wildweasel74

The free at the end of normal time, not even remotely a free. Allowing Dublin to take the 45 which lead to the goal after Fenton send off is mysterious to say the least. I thought it should been a throw up ball at least  from where that incident occurred. There were 2 High tackles on McFaul and McAvoy which were obvious fouls and Lane let both go.

Jell 0 Biafra

Quote from: Gael85 on April 01, 2024, 02:18:16 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on April 01, 2024, 12:23:43 AMHappy enough with the league this year. Obviously would have preferred a different result today, but a bunch of lads who have been at the periphery of the squad in recent times got a lot of game time over the course of the league, and some of those had today  their first taste of a high-intensity game with something on the line.

I think some of our younger defenders aren't quite at the level required yet, but I'd be fairly hopeful that today will help bring them on, and, as I said above, I'd be fairly confident that the old guard have another tilt in them this year.

Would like to have seen Theo Clancy get more game time during league.

He got enough time to show he's one for the future.

gallsman

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2024, 02:53:32 AMThe free at the end of normal time, not even remotely a free. Allowing Dublin to take the 45 which lead to the goal after Fenton send off is mysterious to say the least. I thought it should been a throw up ball at least  from where that incident occurred. There were 2 High tackles on McFaul and McAvoy which were obvious fouls and Lane let both go.

Has already been explained here by a referee. There were plenty of questionable decisions in Derry's favour as well.

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on April 01, 2024, 12:32:21 AMAlso looking forward to a few years of Dublin/Derry rivalry to come, based on today.

Derry very good underage at the minute too. Last year's minors were outstanding.

Armagh18

Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 31, 2024, 08:25:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2024, 07:51:35 PMRef didn't see it and went on linesman's view. Linesman was wrong.
How do you know ref didn't see it?
Are you Conor Lane?
Obviously only Lane can answer that. But watching tv it looked as though Lane was following the play and the incident happened behind him. Linesman had a clear view of it, forearm to the face off the ball, you are giving the ref a decision to make, totally needless thing to do so can be no real complaints. 

Derryman forever

Much had been spoken and written of Dublin's kicking game prior to The final.
But IMO it was Derry's kicking that was the most incisive  and damaging.
This Derry team seems to be expanding in talent confidence and all aspects of the game.
I also noticed that some of our best players  yesterday were the young guns.
Murray, Mc Evoy, Doherty.
Looks promising for Derry at the moment

galwayman

Derry have turned into a seriously good team since 2022.
We beat them twice that season but unfortunately have gone in the opposite direction since.
There is definitely an All Ireland in that team in the near future.

onefineday

Quote from: JoG2 on April 01, 2024, 01:30:34 AMWe talked on the way home of how this can and should be motivation for other counties that, with the right organisation, work rate and team building (because at the end of the day, Gallagher brought these men together and bonded them with the belief that they can do great things) pretty much anything can happen. Micky and Horse have added to the squad. Some of the play for periods in every game this year has been exceptional.

There's no doubting that Gallagher brought them together and gave them belief and and some incredibly innovative tactics imo.
But we can't disregard the step change in underage performance. From 2008 - 2014, I'm fairly sure Derry won one Ulster minor championship game (against Fermanagh iirc), from 2015 to present they've progressed to the all Ireland series on 7 out of 9 occasions and won 2 all Ireland titles, so the players are there.

Re criticism of lynch, I've been slow to come round to him, but can appreciate how important his creating the overlap is now, he knows his limitations and the risks, but his play making is superb and he's now contributing far more going forward than in his early years where it could the risk reward could be questioned.
Great game and great win for Derry, but there's a long road ahead and we'll hardly get too carried away. The tale of last year's league winners is there to caution us.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2024, 02:53:32 AMThe free at the end of normal time, not even remotely a free. Allowing Dublin to take the 45 which lead to the goal after Fenton send off is mysterious to say the least. I thought it should been a throw up ball at least  from where that incident occurred. There were 2 High tackles on McFaul and McAvoy which were obvious fouls and Lane let both go.

you can't make rules up
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

nrico2006

Why did the ref not give a free after Fentons foul?
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

Armagh18

Quote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2024, 09:42:45 AMWhy did the ref not give a free after Fentons foul?
Never seen a free given for that situation? Red card was correct call.

nrico2006

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 01, 2024, 09:49:34 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2024, 09:42:45 AMWhy did the ref not give a free after Fentons foul?
Never seen a free given for that situation? Red card was correct call.

Surely if a player commits a foul, that leads to a red, then it should be a free. Can't see how Dublin still get to take the 45.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

Itchy

Quote from: gallsman on April 01, 2024, 07:17:47 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2024, 02:53:32 AMThe free at the end of normal time, not even remotely a free. Allowing Dublin to take the 45 which lead to the goal after Fenton send off is mysterious to say the least. I thought it should been a throw up ball at least  from where that incident occurred. There were 2 High tackles on McFaul and McAvoy which were obvious fouls and Lane let both go.

Has already been explained here by a referee. There were plenty of questionable decisions in Derry's favour as well.

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on April 01, 2024, 12:32:21 AMAlso looking forward to a few years of Dublin/Derry rivalry to come, based on today.

Derry very good underage at the minute too. Last year's minors were outstanding.

Jesus Christ, it was a superb game of football. Why go on about the referee. For what it's worth I thought he was very good but I'm sure he made a mistake or two.

tonto1888

Quote from: Itchy on April 01, 2024, 09:59:40 AM
Quote from: gallsman on April 01, 2024, 07:17:47 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2024, 02:53:32 AMThe free at the end of normal time, not even remotely a free. Allowing Dublin to take the 45 which lead to the goal after Fenton send off is mysterious to say the least. I thought it should been a throw up ball at least  from where that incident occurred. There were 2 High tackles on McFaul and McAvoy which were obvious fouls and Lane let both go.

Has already been explained here by a referee. There were plenty of questionable decisions in Derry's favour as well.

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on April 01, 2024, 12:32:21 AMAlso looking forward to a few years of Dublin/Derry rivalry to come, based on today.

Derry very good underage at the minute too. Last year's minors were outstanding.

Jesus Christ, it was a superb game of football. Why go on about the referee. For what it's worth I thought he was very good but I'm sure he made a mistake or two.

Because we have to have something to complain about. Can't just be celebrating the good can we

Rossfan

Incident happened, ref didn't see it as he was following the ball.
After the ball went out of play for a 45 he was alerted to the incident and took what he believed was the appropriate action i.e red card.
Then play resumed with the 45.

If a Derry forward hit a Dublin defender off the ball at the same time , got sent off, it wouldn't be a free out for Dublin.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

nrico2006

Quote from: Rossfan on April 01, 2024, 10:32:54 AMIncident happened, ref didn't see it as he was following the ball.
After the ball went out of play for a 45 he was alerted to the incident and took what he believed was the appropriate action i.e red card.
Then play resumed with the 45.

If a Derry forward hit a Dublin defender off the ball at the same time , got sent off, it wouldn't be a free out for Dublin.

But surely it should be a free in those circumstances, not simply a case of continue irrelevant of the foul.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'