Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

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Goals_Will_Come

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Senior / Division 1

Ardboe - Noel O'Neill & Gavin Devlin
Carrickmore - Ciaran McBride & Noel Slane
Clonoe - Kevin Madden
Coalisland - Ronan Rocks & James McGrath
Donaghmore  - Mark Counihan
Dromore - Ryan McMenamin & Paul McIvor
Dungannon - James Slater, Ryan Pickering, Gerard Cavlan & Barry Gillis
Edendork - Conleth Gilligan
Eglish -
Errigal Ciaran - Enda McGinley & Stephen Quinn
Galbally - Gavin McGilly & Paddy Tally
Killyclogher -
Loughmacrory - Martin Boyle
Omagh - Owen Devine, Keith Burns & Conor McMahon.
Pomeroy - Declan McCallan & John McElholm
Trillick - Jody Gormley & Peter McGinnity

Intermediate / Division 2

Aghyaran - Bernard McGeehan & Brendan McLaughlin
Beragh - Conor Gormley & Damian Leonard
Cookstown - Des Tracey & Conleth Donnelly
Clogher - Steven McKenna, Kevin McConnell & Macartan McKenna
Derrylaughan - Kevin Niblock
Drumragh - Colm Bradley
Fintona - Martin Greene
Greencastle - Sean Pol Harte & Emmett Hackett
Gortin - Kevin McCullagh, Nigel McCarron, Leo Meenan & Mark Donnelly
Kildress - Cathal Corey & Dean McNally
Moortown - James Conway, Chris Lawn & Declan O'Neill
Moy - Cathal McAnenly
Naomh Eoghan - Sean Murtagh & Aidy O'Kane
Owen Roes - Stefan Deery & Johnny Lafferty
Rock - Tommy Bloomer & Conor Bayne
Stewartstown - Blake Smyth & Simon Mc Cloy

Junior / Division 3

Aghaloo - Paul O'Hagan, Brian McKenna & Mickey Donnelly
Augher - Ronan McAlinden & Aidan Cassidy
Brackaville -
Brocagh - Peter Armour
Castlederg - Chris McLaughlin
Clann na nGael - Kevin McCrystal
Derrytresk - Kyle Coney & Gary Martin
Donaghmore III -
Drumquin - Darren Mullan & Stevie Ferguson
Errigal Ciaran III -
Eskra - Declan Treanor
Glenelly - Roger Keenan & Tony Scullion
Killeeshil - Damian Hoy
Killyman -
Strabane - Richard O'Neill
Tattyreagh - Mickey Rea
Urney - Matthew Neeson

Goals_Will_Come

Eglish, Killyclogher, Moy, Stewartstown, Brackaville and Killyman not have anything in place at this stage?

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Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on February 20, 2024, 09:41:26 AMEglish, Killyclogher, Moy, Stewartstown, Brackaville and Killyman not have anything in place at this stage?

Cathal McAnenley - Moy

superstar_

Plans being put in place to split the Division 3 league into two tiers. Junior Championship will remain the same. Unclear yet the format that the league will take but probably looking top tier of 8 and bottom tier of 9 with Home and Away fixtures.

Goals_Will_Come

#48124
Quote from: superstar_ on March 06, 2024, 11:21:46 AMPlans being put in place to split the Division 3 league into two tiers. Junior Championship will remain the same. Unclear yet the format that the league will take but probably looking top tier of 8 and bottom tier of 9 with Home and Away fixtures.
I see potential in this change. Junior has the biggest gap between top and bottom and might allow some of the teams currently struggling a chance to start building again with more competitive games against those around them rather than taking drubbings from Strabane, Aghaloo, Glenelly, Killeeshil et al. and help with bringing youngsters through and establish themselves in competitive games rather than 20+ hammerings and pushing them towards other sports.
Also creates an opportunity for more thirds teams to enter and have more teams in Junior. In time this could lead to the Junior league expanding and potentially two groups of 10 with the bottom group made up with more thirds teams and this would make this more appealing to your Omaghs, Dromores, Carrickmores, Coalislands for entering a thirds team if it was at that level against other thirds teams.

W.A.G. Lover

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on March 06, 2024, 11:28:34 AM
Quote from: superstar_ on March 06, 2024, 11:21:46 AMPlans being put in place to split the Division 3 league into two tiers. Junior Championship will remain the same. Unclear yet the format that the league will take but probably looking top tier of 8 and bottom tier of 9 with Home and Away fixtures.
I see potential in this change. Junior has the biggest gap between top and bottom and might allow some of the teams currently struggling a chance to start building again with more competitive games against those around them rather than taking drubbings from Strabane, Aghaloo, Glenelly, Killeeshil et al. and help with bringing youngsters through and establish themselves in competitive games rather than 20+ hammerings and pushing them towards other sports.
Also creates an opportunity for more thirds teams to enter and have more teams in Junior. In time this could lead to the Junior league expanding and potentially two groups of 10 with the bottom group made up with more thirds teams and this would make this more appealing to your Omaghs, Dromores, Carrickmores, Coalislands for entering a thirds team if it was at that level against other thirds teams.

More appealing to players yes, but i cant see senior managements been too keen. Was this not an issue before whereby senior / reserve footballers were opting for the more recreational "thirds" team football and therefore hindering the senior panel?
I still insist the current 3 divisions split across 4 divisions would work better. Even introduce a 5th if needs be for more "thirds" teams if they wish to enter. There is an equal gulf in difference in division 3 teams as there is between top half division 1 and bottom half division 1/top half division 2.
The so called "bigger" clubs dont like this idea as they are afraid they may loss their senior status, but if we still maintain 16 teams at senior championship level, then all they have to do is finish within top 16 teams of 1A/1B league to ensure qualification.

Goals_Will_Come

Quote from: W.A.G. Lover on March 06, 2024, 11:39:28 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on March 06, 2024, 11:28:34 AM
Quote from: superstar_ on March 06, 2024, 11:21:46 AMPlans being put in place to split the Division 3 league into two tiers. Junior Championship will remain the same. Unclear yet the format that the league will take but probably looking top tier of 8 and bottom tier of 9 with Home and Away fixtures.
I see potential in this change. Junior has the biggest gap between top and bottom and might allow some of the teams currently struggling a chance to start building again with more competitive games against those around them rather than taking drubbings from Strabane, Aghaloo, Glenelly, Killeeshil et al. and help with bringing youngsters through and establish themselves in competitive games rather than 20+ hammerings and pushing them towards other sports.
Also creates an opportunity for more thirds teams to enter and have more teams in Junior. In time this could lead to the Junior league expanding and potentially two groups of 10 with the bottom group made up with more thirds teams and this would make this more appealing to your Omaghs, Dromores, Carrickmores, Coalislands for entering a thirds team if it was at that level against other thirds teams.

More appealing to players yes, but i cant see senior managements been too keen. Was this not an issue before whereby senior / reserve footballers were opting for the more recreational "thirds" team football and therefore hindering the senior panel?
I still insist the current 3 divisions split across 4 divisions would work better. Even introduce a 5th if needs be for more "thirds" teams if they wish to enter. There is an equal gulf in difference in division 3 teams as there is between top half division 1 and bottom half division 1/top half division 2.
The so called "bigger" clubs dont like this idea as they are afraid they may loss their senior status, but if we still maintain 16 teams at senior championship level, then all they have to do is finish within top 16 teams of 1A/1B league to ensure qualification.
There is not as big a gap between Trillick, Errigal, Dungannon and Dromore to Coalisland, Donaghmore, Galbally, Eglish, Clonoe, Pomeroy, Moy as there is from Killeeshil, Strabane, Aghaloo to Killyman, Brockagh and Brackaville. Division 3 is littered with 20+ point wins, you don't see that in Senior and very rarely in Intermediate.

TabClear

Quote from: W.A.G. Lover on March 06, 2024, 11:39:28 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on March 06, 2024, 11:28:34 AM
Quote from: superstar_ on March 06, 2024, 11:21:46 AMPlans being put in place to split the Division 3 league into two tiers. Junior Championship will remain the same. Unclear yet the format that the league will take but probably looking top tier of 8 and bottom tier of 9 with Home and Away fixtures.
I see potential in this change. Junior has the biggest gap between top and bottom and might allow some of the teams currently struggling a chance to start building again with more competitive games against those around them rather than taking drubbings from Strabane, Aghaloo, Glenelly, Killeeshil et al. and help with bringing youngsters through and establish themselves in competitive games rather than 20+ hammerings and pushing them towards other sports.
Also creates an opportunity for more thirds teams to enter and have more teams in Junior. In time this could lead to the Junior league expanding and potentially two groups of 10 with the bottom group made up with more thirds teams and this would make this more appealing to your Omaghs, Dromores, Carrickmores, Coalislands for entering a thirds team if it was at that level against other thirds teams.

More appealing to players yes, but i cant see senior managements been too keen. Was this not an issue before whereby senior / reserve footballers were opting for the more recreational "thirds" team football and therefore hindering the senior panel?
I still insist the current 3 divisions split across 4 divisions would work better. Even introduce a 5th if needs be for more "thirds" teams if they wish to enter. There is an equal gulf in difference in division 3 teams as there is between top half division 1 and bottom half division 1/top half division 2.
The so called "bigger" clubs dont like this idea as they are afraid they may loss their senior status, but if we still maintain 16 teams at senior championship level, then all they have to do is finish within top 16 teams of 1A/1B league to ensure qualification.

But that has nothing at all to do with Management? What right do they have to dictate what level someone plays at? If a player for whatever reason wants to play at a lower level for example because they cant commit to the crazy training regimes that club players are expected to, surely it is better that a player stays participating in some way than walks away completely?

LeoMc

Judging by the number of development teams appearing at underage, clubs must be working on underage player retention so it make sense that will carry through to Senior. Donaghmore are a prime example with their recently introduced 3rd team coming off the back of serious underage development.
Cookstown, Carrickmore, Errigal, Omagh all with development teams at various underage levels so a less competitive environment will help those to establish at adult level.

tyroneStatto

Heard Cookstown had 60 players at a senior/reserve team meeting for the start of this season so they could easily be looking at a 3rds team with those numbers and that's even before their current youth numbers start to filter through to adult level.

Derryman forever

Hope I'm not out of order, but is that a brother of Niall Devlin that died in a Collision on the A5 last evening?
May he rest in peace and may his family have strength to deal with this tragedy. God Bless all of them.

W.A.G. Lover

Quote from: clarshack on March 06, 2024, 02:39:41 PMHeard Cookstown had 60 players at a senior/reserve team meeting for the start of this season so they could easily be looking at a 3rds team with those numbers and that's even before their current youth numbers start to filter through to adult level.

The difference in numbers between rural and town clubs at present is shocking, and will only get worse with these ever increasing youth numbers. Stricter planning regulations are now inhibiting rural clubs as they are relying on farm dwelling or replacement dwellings, with no new developments. Not that many recognise the Parish rule in its current format, but it is something that may need reviewed if rural clubs are to compete again in the future.

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Quote from: W.A.G. Lover on March 06, 2024, 03:31:14 PM
Quote from: clarshack on March 06, 2024, 02:39:41 PMHeard Cookstown had 60 players at a senior/reserve team meeting for the start of this season so they could easily be looking at a 3rds team with those numbers and that's even before their current youth numbers start to filter through to adult level.

The difference in numbers between rural and town clubs at present is shocking, and will only get worse with these ever increasing youth numbers. Stricter planning regulations are now inhibiting rural clubs as they are relying on farm dwelling or replacement dwellings, with no new developments. Not that many recognise the Parish rule in its current format, but it is something that may need reviewed if rural clubs are to compete again in the future.

Rural clubs struggling for sure and others larger villages and towns benefiting. Loads of teams have 50 plus players at underage. Others rely on younger players just to field.

God14

#48133
not disagreeing with either points

but in the case of Cookstown, is it not a case they have looked at neighbouring towns such as Dungannon, Magherafelt and Omagh - and made a bigger effort as a club to replicate the successful strategies employed there?

Id be passing magherafelt pitch quite alot, its on a busy road. The work going on in that club is fantastic, the pitch is stacked with young kids all the time. Its no surprise that they are bearing the fruit of that at senior level. Every Derry underage side, and the big schools are benefitting of the work Magherafelt are doing. Cookstown rightly should be trying to emulate that

DownFanatic

Who would be the smallest clubs in Tyrone numbers wise?