NFL Division 1 2024

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Mario

Quote from: seafoid on February 05, 2024, 02:38:41 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 05, 2024, 02:27:19 PMWith five games to play it looks like three teams (Derry, Mayo and Kerry) are aiming to win the league Dublin might be a 4th if the old guard Fitzsimons, McCarthy, Cluxton,Mannion start to feature in the remaining games.

As for the rest staying up is the prime
Quote from: seafoid on February 05, 2024, 02:38:41 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 05, 2024, 02:27:19 PMWith five games to play it looks like three teams (Derry, Mayo and Kerry) are aiming to win the league Dublin might be a 4th if the old guard Fitzsimons, McCarthy, Cluxton,Mannion start to feature in the remaining games.

As for the rest staying up is the prime objective for Monaghan,Roscommon, Tyrone and Galway as all look to get players back and in form before the championship gets up and running.
I don't think Kerry want to win the league.
Quote from: seafoid on February 05, 2024, 02:38:41 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 05, 2024, 02:27:19 PMWith five games to play it looks like three teams (Derry, Mayo and Kerry) are aiming to win the league Dublin might be a 4th if the old guard Fitzsimons, McCarthy, Cluxton,Mannion start to feature in the remaining games.

As for the rest staying up is the prime objective for Monaghan,Roscommon, Tyrone and Galway as all look to get players back and in form before the championship gets up and running.
I don't think Kerry want to win the league.
objective for Monaghan,Roscommon, Tyrone and Galway as all look to get players back and in form before the championship gets up and running.
I don't think Kerry want to win the league.
That's why they abandoned the Clifford rest schedule after 1 game and brought David on before half time in their second game.

tyrone08

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Quote from: screenexile on February 05, 2024, 04:51:31 PMI don't want to win the NFL or Ulster this year.

Tailor training after the NFL to peak for the All Ireland QFs. A loss to Donegal will get the knives out for everyone about "Glen lads back too early" "no depth" "no forwards" "Mickey Harte shouldn't have taken the Derry job" etc.

Nobody better at a siege mentality than Mickey Harte.

The one problem with that is Mickey never likes to lose games ever so I imagine we'll just be flat to the mat from now until we get beat!

The other problem is mickey hasnt beaten Kerry, Dublin or Mayo in 10 years in a championship match.

statto

Quote from: Armagh18 on February 05, 2024, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 05, 2024, 04:11:26 PMNo harm but Down would be a good bit off winning ulster though definitely improving.

Only a few teams likely to win it.
they were brutal against us last year in Clones but as you say they're improving. Laverty a shrewd operator and you could see them win an Ulster within a few years.
Can't see the basis for this been poor at underage a long time now and alot of the kilcoo players have been unable to carry their club form to county jersey.

imtommygunn

You've won 2 out of 3 under 20 titles though so you're not that poor at underage.

ClubScene13

Quote from: tyrone08 on February 05, 2024, 06:02:47 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 05, 2024, 04:51:31 PMI don't want to win the NFL or Ulster this year.

Tailor training after the NFL to peak for the All Ireland QFs. A loss to Donegal will get the knives out for everyone about "Glen lads back too early" "no depth" "no forwards" "Mickey Harte shouldn't have taken the Derry job" etc.

Nobody better at a siege mentality than Mickey Harte.

The one problem with that is Mickey never likes to lose games ever so I imagine we'll just be flat to the mat from now until we get beat!

The other problem is mickey hasnt beaten Kerry, Dublin or Mayo in 10 years in a championship match.

Would the last time this happened not be 2008 AI final? I could be missing a game, but the big gripe towards the end in Tyrone was how long we had went without cracking these 3 in championship. I can't remember a more recent one, possibly a Mayo game I'm forgetting?

statto

Quote from: imtommygunn on February 05, 2024, 06:34:27 PMYou've won 2 out of 3 under 20 titles though so you're not that poor at underage.
fair enough had overlooked that.

screenexile

In fairness if Down lose Murdock they are in trouble!

imtommygunn

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Quote from: statto on February 05, 2024, 06:51:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 05, 2024, 06:34:27 PMYou've won 2 out of 3 under 20 titles though so you're not that poor at underage.
fair enough had overlooked that.

Laverty is effective. Tbh his conduct on the field as a player wasn't great and by all accounts that continues for his club as he manages his opponents so he is going to rub people in his own county up the wrong way. He has something about him though.

tyrone08

Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 05, 2024, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on February 05, 2024, 06:02:47 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 05, 2024, 04:51:31 PMI don't want to win the NFL or Ulster this year.

Tailor training after the NFL to peak for the All Ireland QFs. A loss to Donegal will get the knives out for everyone about "Glen lads back too early" "no depth" "no forwards" "Mickey Harte shouldn't have taken the Derry job" etc.

Nobody better at a siege mentality than Mickey Harte.

The one problem with that is Mickey never likes to lose games ever so I imagine we'll just be flat to the mat from now until we get beat!

The other problem is mickey hasnt beaten Kerry, Dublin or Mayo in 10 years in a championship match.

Would the last time this happened not be 2008 AI final? I could be missing a game, but the big gripe towards the end in Tyrone was how long we had went without cracking these 3 in championship. I can't remember a more recent one, possibly a Mayo game I'm forgetting?

It probably is that long. Bit mad to bring in a manager to win ai when he hasn't managed to beat a top team in a very long time

Lamh Dhearg Alba

Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 05, 2024, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on February 05, 2024, 06:02:47 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 05, 2024, 04:51:31 PMI don't want to win the NFL or Ulster this year.

Tailor training after the NFL to peak for the All Ireland QFs. A loss to Donegal will get the knives out for everyone about "Glen lads back too early" "no depth" "no forwards" "Mickey Harte shouldn't have taken the Derry job" etc.

Nobody better at a siege mentality than Mickey Harte.

The one problem with that is Mickey never likes to lose games ever so I imagine we'll just be flat to the mat from now until we get beat!

The other problem is mickey hasnt beaten Kerry, Dublin or Mayo in 10 years in a championship match.

Would the last time this happened not be 2008 AI final? I could be missing a game, but the big gripe towards the end in Tyrone was how long we had went without cracking these 3 in championship. I can't remember a more recent one, possibly a Mayo game I'm forgetting?

You're right, 2008 was his last Championship win in Croke Park against a genuine contender. He also struggled after going more defensive (post Donegal defeats) to find the right balance between defence and attack. Both of which made him an interesting choice for a Derry side trying to kick on by winning big games against the top teams and trying to find the right balance between defence and attack.

Derryman forever


93-DY-SAM

Quote from: Derryman forever on February 05, 2024, 11:13:59 PMA feck it we are screwed.



Pretty much. Win games at this stage of the league and you've peaked to early. Don't win games then Mickey has taken us backwards and we are a busted flush. Just no pleasing some people.

statto

Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on February 05, 2024, 10:57:31 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 05, 2024, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on February 05, 2024, 06:02:47 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 05, 2024, 04:51:31 PMI don't want to win the NFL or Ulster this year.

Tailor training after the NFL to peak for the All Ireland QFs. A loss to Donegal will get the knives out for everyone about "Glen lads back too early" "no depth" "no forwards" "Mickey Harte shouldn't have taken the Derry job" etc.

Nobody better at a siege mentality than Mickey Harte.

The one problem with that is Mickey never likes to lose games ever so I imagine we'll just be flat to the mat from now until we get beat!

The other problem is mickey hasnt beaten Kerry, Dublin or Mayo in 10 years in a championship match.

Would the last time this happened not be 2008 AI final? I could be missing a game, but the big gripe towards the end in Tyrone was how long we had went without cracking these 3 in championship. I can't remember a more recent one, possibly a Mayo game I'm forgetting?

You're right, 2008 was his last Championship win in Croke Park against a genuine contender. He also struggled after going more defensive (post Donegal defeats) to find the right balance between defence and attack. Both of which made him an interesting choice for a Derry side trying to kick on by winning big games against the top teams and trying to find the right balance between defence and attack.
Is there a case to be made that Tyrone were a little off the top teams in the country at that time?Tyrone fans were spoilt from 2003 to 2008 going from never winning an all Ireland to 3 in 6 years and with that comes a demand for more success.Canavan their greatest ever player was coming to end and mulligan,mcguigan and o Neill were top class at their peak in those years.they didn't have anywhere near close to as good a forward line in the years that followed.

tyrone08

Quote from: statto on February 06, 2024, 07:07:27 AM
Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on February 05, 2024, 10:57:31 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 05, 2024, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on February 05, 2024, 06:02:47 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 05, 2024, 04:51:31 PMI don't want to win the NFL or Ulster this year.

Tailor training after the NFL to peak for the All Ireland QFs. A loss to Donegal will get the knives out for everyone about "Glen lads back too early" "no depth" "no forwards" "Mickey Harte shouldn't have taken the Derry job" etc.

Nobody better at a siege mentality than Mickey Harte.

The one problem with that is Mickey never likes to lose games ever so I imagine we'll just be flat to the mat from now until we get beat!

The other problem is mickey hasnt beaten Kerry, Dublin or Mayo in 10 years in a championship match.

Would the last time this happened not be 2008 AI final? I could be missing a game, but the big gripe towards the end in Tyrone was how long we had went without cracking these 3 in championship. I can't remember a more recent one, possibly a Mayo game I'm forgetting?

You're right, 2008 was his last Championship win in Croke Park against a genuine contender. He also struggled after going more defensive (post Donegal defeats) to find the right balance between defence and attack. Both of which made him an interesting choice for a Derry side trying to kick on by winning big games against the top teams and trying to find the right balance between defence and attack.
Is there a case to be made that Tyrone were a little off the top teams in the country at that time?Tyrone fans were spoilt from 2003 to 2008 going from never winning an all Ireland to 3 in 6 years and with that comes a demand for more success.Canavan their greatest ever player was coming to end and mulligan,mcguigan and o Neill were top class at their peak in those years.they didn't have anywhere near close to as good a forward line in the years that followed.

The year after harte left tyrone beat Kerry and Mayo and won the AI with the same team mickey had for a number of years

Maroon Manc

Without knowing a great deal about it I find the lack of playing time of Darren McCurry under Harte bizare.