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Syferus

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Quote from: CiKe on April 27, 2016, 08:51:57 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 27, 2016, 07:38:02 PM
Vlad beat alot of blown up cruiserweights he could paw away (illegally) with his big jab. Met a half decent big guy with a longer reach who could do the same to him and he was fûcked. Him continually clinching inside rather than trying to mix it with the big man really put paid to the idea he has a high boxing IQ. One note is the best way to describe him tbh.

What is illegal about the jab? Considered by many - who would know a lot more than me - to be the best jab since Larry Holmes. Think your judgement being clouded by fact his fights were boring by and large but shouldn't take away from him being good fighter. Be interesting rematch.

Calling it a jab is the wrong term for it. Most of the time it was a clubbing motion that doesn't even resemble a punch. Best jab in decades my arse - big tall lad who can club v poor fighters equals a lot of wins.

Ward v GGG would be one of the few fights I'd be very excited for. Whatever about numbers it would be one of the true super fights of our generation and a fascinating class of styles.

whiskeysteve

Quote from: Syferus on May 01, 2016, 01:57:13 PM
Quote from: CiKe on April 27, 2016, 08:51:57 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 27, 2016, 07:38:02 PM
Vlad beat alot of blown up cruiserweights he could paw away (illegally) with his big jab. Met a half decent big guy with a longer reach who could do the same to him and he was fûcked. Him continually clinching inside rather than trying to mix it with the big man really put paid to the idea he has a high boxing IQ. One note is the best way to describe him tbh.

What is illegal about the jab? Considered by many - who would know a lot more than me - to be the best jab since Larry Holmes. Think your judgement being clouded by fact his fights were boring by and large but shouldn't take away from him being good fighter. Be interesting rematch.

Calling it a jab is the wrong term for it. Most of the time it was a clubbing motion that doesn't even resemble a punch. Best jab in decades my arse - big tall lad who can club v poor fighters equals a lot of wins.

Your arse indeed. As for calling it illegal, what absolute nonsense  ::)
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Gold

James DeGale is thoroughly unlikeable
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CiKe

Quote from: Gold on May 01, 2016, 08:51:53 PM
James DeGale is thoroughly unlikeable

100%. Every time he fights, hope he gets sparked. Would love GGG to fight him

nrico2006

Quote from: CiKe on May 01, 2016, 09:23:00 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 01, 2016, 08:51:53 PM
James DeGale is thoroughly unlikeable

100%. Every time he fights, hope he gets sparked. Would love GGG to fight him

DeGale thinks he is better than he is.  The Super Middleweight division is pretty poor at the minute and DeGale has not been too impressive in taking the title and defending it.  He doesn't have the power to trouble the best in the division and he tires something serious in fights.  Even at the weekend, against an average enough fighter, he took a fair bit of punishment.

As for Golovkin, he should stick to middleweight until he unifies the division and go no higher than SM.  As I said, the only thing that beats him apart from age is going up and fighting someone who is a lot bigger.  I think Kovalev will beat Ward too, heard la while back that this fight is definitely happening in the Autumn and I cannot wait for it.
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BennyHarp

Quote from: nrico2006 on May 02, 2016, 09:09:40 AM
Quote from: CiKe on May 01, 2016, 09:23:00 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 01, 2016, 08:51:53 PM
James DeGale is thoroughly unlikeable

100%. Every time he fights, hope he gets sparked. Would love GGG to fight him

DeGale thinks he is better than he is.  The Super Middleweight division is pretty poor at the minute and DeGale has not been too impressive in taking the title and defending it.  He doesn't have the power to trouble the best in the division and he tires something serious in fights.  Even at the weekend, against an average enough fighter, he took a fair bit of punishment.

As for Golovkin, he should stick to middleweight until he unifies the division and go no higher than SM.  As I said, the only thing that beats him apart from age is going up and fighting someone who is a lot bigger.  I think Kovalev will beat Ward too, heard la while back that this fight is definitely happening in the Autumn and I cannot wait for it.

I agree re. Degale but his improvement has been impressive and he's not afraid to go and fight away from home which has to be respected. I'm excited about seeing how Callum Smith develops in this division. I think he has the potential to do a lot of damage, give him a year or so and a fight very GGG could be very interesting!
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screenexile

Mayweather v McGregor??? Really???

gallsman

Quote from: screenexile on May 06, 2016, 02:31:07 PM
Mayweather v McGregor??? Really???

Have no idea what your source is but no, not really. Will never happen.

Khan Canelo this weekend. Whatever's people's thoughts on Khan, he's bloody good to watch and this is a brave, brave move.

STREET FIGHTER

Quote from: gallsman on May 06, 2016, 03:02:35 PM
Quote from: screenexile on May 06, 2016, 02:31:07 PM
Mayweather v McGregor??? Really???

Have no idea what your source is but no, not really. Will never happen.

Khan Canelo this weekend. Whatever's people's thoughts on Khan, he's bloody good to watch and this is a brave, brave move.

Khan a massive underdog....

Does he have a chance...

He's hit the canvas a few times but how he stayed up against Maidana I will never know.....

lurganblue

Quote from: gallsman on May 06, 2016, 03:02:35 PM
Quote from: screenexile on May 06, 2016, 02:31:07 PM
Mayweather v McGregor??? Really???

Have no idea what your source is but no, not really. Will never happen.

Khan Canelo this weekend. Whatever's people's thoughts on Khan, he's bloody good to watch and this is a brave, brave move.

Unless virgil hunter has came up with a plan to well protect Khan's glass chin then i fancy him to be knocked on his ass inside 9.  I dont see him having the power to trouble canelo either.

omaghjoe

I think Kahn defo has a chance, he has the skills, hand speed and guts to beat Canelo, however I just dont think he will.... that ole chin and love of a brawl will be is undoing i think. But u never know...

Dont really think its a brave move as such, he is in it for the money IMO

CiKe

You have to give him his props, he has some stones but I'd expect him to take a world of punishment and a late KO if he doesn't get sparked early because he aint going to be able to keep Canelo off him. His only chance is to run but be interesting to see if the extra weight slows him down at all.

omaghjoe

Both came in at 155. Kahn looked alot bigger as youd expect, but kinda chunky TBH, would worry he is gonna be giving up alot of weight tomorrow night... likely to be at least 10lbs.

Throw that in on top of Kahn needing to move as cike pointed out with all that weight and youd start to wonder how he can do it.

Also Virgil Hunter reckons Kahn does not have the killer instinct :o. Kinda crazy admission for a trainer to come out with in public.

gawa316

So how much weight can these fellas put on after a weigh in?

CiKe

No expert but a stone or more at middlweight up wouldnt be unheard of