Kerry V Tyrone Fodder AISF 23rd August 2015

[imtommygunn]

The irony is if Tyrone threw off the shackles in that 2nd half and used there skill they could have done it. Time for mickey to leave.

Wrong. It proved mickey is still one of the top dogs about when it comes to tactics.

It wasn't mickey who missed the chances tyrone had.

[AZOffaly]

All is right with the world again!!

Yes Tyrone performed admirably but logically when this match was considered Kerry were always going to win. They have the players and the pedigree at this level, all of their substitutes would be in Tyrone's first 15.

Having said that Tie Rone gave it  a real rattle and yes some decisions went against them but what do you expect? Have they ever heard of 'The Boy Who Cried Wolf'. You reap what you sow lads. Karma is catching up on you!

In honesty Tyrone didn't deserve to win the game but I will say this. . . They aren't as far away as I and many others thought. If they can keep Cavanagh fit for a couple more seasons they still have a chance although they are still a cut below the top 3.

Really looking forward to next weeks game and the final! They promise to be excellent games!!

PS. McMahon and McNamee clearly demonstrated why Tyrone are so hated. Has the Gooch ever laydown without reason?? Shame on the 2 lads!!

I had €20 on Tyrone as I thought  Kerry would struggle to handle them running at pace.  They had their chances.

[Il Bomber Destro]

The irony is if Tyrone threw off the shackles in that 2nd half and used there skill they could have done it. Time for mickey to leave.

Are you suggesting that Tyrone have better footballers than Kerry? If Tyrone played conventional 15v15 against Kerry the result would have been more emphatic so Harte deserves credit for getting as close to an AI final as he did with those players. I do not subscribe to the theory that this Tyrone team are equipped to win an AI title.

The bottom line is Tyrone threw that game away, they had the goal chances, they had the chances from frees, Morgan imploded on his kickouts and gifted scores to Kerry and still in spite of all those factors they could still have won this game if Deegan did his job as he should have.

Tyrone were the better side today but they only have themselves to blame as to why they didn't win.

[Wildweasel74]

somebody here said Tyrone were the better team? seriously what are you watching? they match Kerry to the 52nd Minute then Kerry pulled away. A very debatable penalty brought them back into it when they were 5 behind and falling adrift. Its OK having runners like McCann, meyler etc but at the end of the day its Gaelic football, not running round a track all day. you still have to put the ball over the bar. Kerry half forwards and midfield could. on the day Tyrone`s did not. Moran totally eclipsed Donnelly on the midfield. Kerry were poor enough on the day but still had enough. Tyrone have come on alot this year but when 5 down they should have pushed up and attacked more

[lenny]

I have to say I really enjoyed the game. Was there for the taking for Tyrone. Missed a number of gilt edged goal chances and easy frees. Similar to last years final in many ways, not least with Morgan pressing the self destruct button on a number of occasion. On the balance of things Kerry got the big decisions from the ref/umpires. Its hard to say whether it ultimately affected the outcome but it didn't help Tyrone's cause. For Tyrone I thought Harte, Colm Cavanagh, Bradley and McAliskey stood out. Maybe it was the conditions but I thought Meyler gave away possession a number of times and I'm surprised he wasn't substituted sooner. Just didn't pan out for Sean Cavanagh, game sort of bypassed him.
     For Kerry, Buckley was superb. Really surprised me with his skill and took his scores brilliantly. JOD got a lot of possession and was a constant thorn in Tyrone's side. Gooch came into it later in the game (he took a very dirty hit at the end that should have been a red card). Maher picked up an important point near the end but it wasn't a conventional midfield battle so not as influential as previously. For me the difference was the quality forwards Kerry were able to take on Geaney, O'Sullivan and BJK. They all made important contributions. Also unlike some of the posters here I thought Donnacha Walsh had a great game maybe not MOM but not far away.
     Tyrone just didn't have the killer instinct up front, but both Mayo and Dublin do.

The kerry subs contributed very well especially geaney. What surprised me was how quiet mattie donnelly in particular and also sean cavanagh were. Who was marking donnelly, from tv it looked like david moran. He seemed to do a great job for the team by tracking donnellys runs and tackling him strongly but fairly.

So good that he was substituted with about 15 minutes to go.

Moran is a brilliant traditional midfielder asked to do a job on a running midfielder. He did that role excellently for 55 minutes and then fresh legs were sent in. Thats the way i saw it from watching on tv. I was just surprised at how quiet donnelly was as he has been the stand out player for tyrone for the last couple of years. He just didnt perform today.

[Il Bomber Destro]

somebody here said Tyrone were the better team? seriously what are you watching? they match Kerry to the 52nd Minute then Kerry pulled away. A very debatable penalty brought them back into it when they were 5 behind and falling adrift. Its OK having runners like McCann, meyler etc but at the end of the day its Gaelic football, not running round a track all day. you still have to put the ball over the bar. Kerry half forwards and midfield could. on the day Tyrone`s did not. Moran totally eclipsed Donnelly on the midfield. Kerry were poor enough on the day but still had enough. Tyrone have come on alot this year but when 5 down they should have pushed up and attacked more

The bottom line is had Tyrone taken their chances, they would have won. That's not even taking into account the refereeing decisions that went against them.

Moran was taken off, Donnelly had far more of an influence for Tyrone than Moran had for Kerry.

[highorlow]

All tyrone's goal chances came from free flowing play, they might have matched the kingdom. Kerry are no great shakes. Tyrone showed them far too much respect. Tyrone are clogged in a defensive mire, they could not counter attack at key moments.

In the last 10 minutes where conventional ball was played Tyrone looked fairly ok, that is my point.

[AZOffaly]

In the last 10 minutes, Kerry outscored Tyrone by 4 points I believe. It was all square with about 10 minutes to go.

[Wildweasel74]

I dont know what you watching Moran dominated him and only went off for fresh legs, it was telling Tyrone came back into it when he went off

[screenexile]

somebody here said Tyrone were the better team? seriously what are you watching? they match Kerry to the 52nd Minute then Kerry pulled away. A very debatable penalty brought them back into it when they were 5 behind and falling adrift. Its OK having runners like McCann, meyler etc but at the end of the day its Gaelic football, not running round a track all day. you still have to put the ball over the bar. Kerry half forwards and midfield could. on the day Tyrone`s did not. Moran totally eclipsed Donnelly on the midfield. Kerry were poor enough on the day but still had enough. Tyrone have come on alot this year but when 5 down they should have pushed up and attacked more

The bottom line is had Tyrone taken their chances, they would have won. That's not even taking into account the refereeing decisions that went against them.

Moran was taken off, Donnelly had far more of an influence for Tyrone than Moran had for Kerry.

Not true! When Tyrone took one Kerry pulled away! They were clearly the better team why can't the Tyronie's see that?

On Morgan it was clear he was told only as a very last resort  he should hoof it down the middle. Not everyone is Stephen Cluxton and even Cluxton looked ordinary when Donegal  sussed out his kicking strategy last year. It's not f**king easy to execute a short kickout strategy when the opposing team push up. I'd be more worried about Kerry's GK who continually kicked ball away when he had men free up to the half way line!!

[twohands!!!]

I have to say I really enjoyed the game. Was there for the taking for Tyrone. Missed a number of gilt edged goal chances and easy frees. Similar to last years final in many ways, not least with Morgan pressing the self destruct button on a number of occasion. On the balance of things Kerry got the big decisions from the ref/umpires. Its hard to say whether it ultimately affected the outcome but it didn't help Tyrone's cause. For Tyrone I thought Harte, Colm Cavanagh, Bradley and McAliskey stood out. Maybe it was the conditions but I thought Meyler gave away possession a number of times and I'm surprised he wasn't substituted sooner. Just didn't pan out for Sean Cavanagh, game sort of bypassed him.
     For Kerry, Buckley was superb. Really surprised me with his skill and took his scores brilliantly. JOD got a lot of possession and was a constant thorn in Tyrone's side. Gooch came into it later in the game (he took a very dirty hit at the end that should have been a red card). Maher picked up an important point near the end but it wasn't a conventional midfield battle so not as influential as previously. For me the difference was the quality forwards Kerry were able to take on Geaney, O'Sullivan and BJK. They all made important contributions. Also unlike some of the posters here I thought Donnacha Walsh had a great game maybe not MOM but not far away.
     Tyrone just didn't have the killer instinct up front, but both Mayo and Dublin do.

The kerry subs contributed very well especially geaney. What surprised me was how quiet mattie donnelly in particular and also sean cavanagh were. Who was marking donnelly, from tv it looked like david moran. He seemed to do a great job for the team by tracking donnellys runs and tackling him strongly but fairly.

So good that he was substituted with about 15 minutes to go.

Moran is a brilliant traditional midfielder asked to do a job on a running midfielder. He did that role excellently for 55 minutes and then fresh legs were sent in. Thats the way i saw it from watching on tv. I was just surprised at how quiet donnelly was as he has been the stand out player for tyrone for the last couple of years. He just didnt perform today.

I thought it was no coincidence that when Moran went off and Sheahan came on, that was the exact period Tyrone came back into it, winning 4/5 balls in a row at midfield. I'd assumed Moran had picked up a knock as he was bossing midfield - Sheahan when he came on was utterly woeful in comparison.

[Il Bomber Destro]

I dont know what you watching Moran dominated him and only went off for fresh legs, it was telling Tyrone came back into it when he went off

He didn't dominate him at all. Moran is one of Kerry's best players and his impact on the game was negligible, Donnelly was very involved for Tyrone all day long and certainly seemed to have much more of an impact including getting on the scoresheet. You say Moran stopped Donnelly, why wouldn't it be the other way round. Moran had an extremely quiet day by his standards today.

[Il Bomber Destro]

somebody here said Tyrone were the better team? seriously what are you watching? they match Kerry to the 52nd Minute then Kerry pulled away. A very debatable penalty brought them back into it when they were 5 behind and falling adrift. Its OK having runners like McCann, meyler etc but at the end of the day its Gaelic football, not running round a track all day. you still have to put the ball over the bar. Kerry half forwards and midfield could. on the day Tyrone`s did not. Moran totally eclipsed Donnelly on the midfield. Kerry were poor enough on the day but still had enough. Tyrone have come on alot this year but when 5 down they should have pushed up and attacked more

The bottom line is had Tyrone taken their chances, they would have won. That's not even taking into account the refereeing decisions that went against them.

Moran was taken off, Donnelly had far more of an influence for Tyrone than Moran had for Kerry.

Not true! When Tyrone took one Kerry pulled away! They were clearly the better team why can't the Tyronie's see that?

On Morgan it was clear he was told only as a very last resort  he should hoof it down the middle. Not everyone is Stephen Cluxton and even Cluxton looked ordinary when Donegal  sussed out his kicking strategy last year. It's not f**king easy to execute a short kickout strategy when the opposing team push up. I'd be more worried about Kerry's GK who continually kicked ball away when he had men free up to the half way line!!

When Tyrone took one, they followed it up with another score in between McCurry missing a decent chance from a free.

[Farrandeelin]

What's the verdict on Kerry for the final against Dublin

Kerry being Kerry will win, against Dublin or Mayo.

[yellowcard]

Moran was certainly not bossing midfield. He was swallowed up in possession a few times in the first half and won very little ball from kick outs as it wasn't that type of match. I'd agree that he is one player I didn't think Fitzmaurice would substitute but he was definitely below par today and to say he dominated is way off the mark. I was surprised that Sheehan came on in a game like today as he has a yellow streak in him. Maher was the pick of Kerry's midfield.