Kerry V Tyrone Fodder AISF 23rd August 2015

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BennyHarp

Quote from: beer baron on August 23, 2015, 07:32:59 PM
This whole thing that the tackle on Gooch was definitely a red is a head scratcher for me,the angles i seen weren't conducive to forming a definite answer, hopefully the Sunday game will have a better angle.

Had Marty Duffy been reffing he'd have given Gooch a black card for this incident.
That was never a square ball!!

AZOffaly

Quote from: beer baron on August 23, 2015, 07:32:59 PM
This whole thing that the tackle on Gooch was definitely a red is a head scratcher for me,the angles i seen weren't conducive to forming a definite answer, hopefully the Sunday game will have a better angle.

The Sunday Game 'angle' is that Tyrone are the anti christ, Football has been saved, and Tyrone should be put in their own special championship, with the games played after the 9pm watershed.

grounded

I have to say I really enjoyed the game. Was there for the taking for Tyrone. Missed a number of gilt edged goal chances and easy frees. Similar to last years final in many ways, not least with Morgan pressing the self destruct button on a number of occasion. On the balance of things Kerry got the big decisions from the ref/umpires. Its hard to say whether it ultimately affected the outcome but it didn't help Tyrone's cause. For Tyrone I thought Harte, Colm Cavanagh, Bradley and McAliskey stood out. Maybe it was the conditions but I thought Meyler gave away possession a number of times and I'm surprised he wasn't substituted sooner. Just didn't pan out for Sean Cavanagh, game sort of bypassed him.
     For Kerry, Buckley was superb. Really surprised me with his skill and took his scores brilliantly. JOD got a lot of possession and was a constant thorn in Tyrone's side. Gooch came into it later in the game (he took a very dirty hit at the end that should have been a red card). Maher picked up an important point near the end but it wasn't a conventional midfield battle so not as influential as previously. For me the difference was the quality forwards Kerry were able to take on Geaney, O'Sullivan and BJK. They all made important contributions. Also unlike some of the posters here I thought Donnacha Walsh had a great game maybe not MOM but not far away.
     Tyrone just didn't have the killer instinct up front, but both Mayo and Dublin do. 

Il Bomber Destro

I wonder will the Sunday Game be analysing Peter Crowley's antics on Cavanagh today given the way Justy's man marking job on Murphy didn't sit well with him.

Crowley was at it all day and was trying to get Cavangh sent off early on in the first half.

From the Bunker

Quote from: grounded on August 23, 2015, 07:42:14 PM
I have to say I really enjoyed the game. Was there for the taking for Tyrone. Missed a number of gilt edged goal chances and easy frees. Similar to last years final in many ways, not least with Morgan pressing the self destruct button on a number of occasion. On the balance of things Kerry got the big decisions from the ref/umpires. Its hard to say whether it ultimately affected the outcome but it didn't help Tyrone's cause. For Tyrone I thought Harte, Colm Cavanagh, Bradley and McAliskey stood out. Maybe it was the conditions but I thought Meyler gave away possession a number of times and I'm surprised he wasn't substituted sooner. Just didn't pan out for Sean Cavanagh, game sort of bypassed him.
     For Kerry, Buckley was superb. Really surprised me with his skill and took his scores brilliantly. JOD got a lot of possession and was a constant thorn in Tyrone's side. Gooch came into it later in the game (he took a very dirty hit at the end that should have been a red card). Maher picked up an important point near the end but it wasn't a conventional midfield battle so not as influential as previously. For me the difference was the quality forwards Kerry were able to take on Geaney, O'Sullivan and BJK. They all made important contributions. Also unlike some of the posters here I thought Donnacha Walsh had a great game maybe not MOM but not far away.
     Tyrone just didn't have the killer instinct up front, but both Mayo and Dublin do.

;D

BennyHarp

Quote from: regal on August 23, 2015, 07:17:25 PM
Kerry will be concerned about the form of donaghy and cooper. Donaghy won't be starting the final. Geaney was superb, as were maher, Walsh and o'brien.

Morgan is some gobshite. The other keeper should feel aggrieved as he seems a better keeper. Bradley looks like an excellent and genuine footballer and hopefully we don't start to see him rolling about in the coming years as is the Tyrone way.

Will mickey stay on next year?

He's confirmed he is staying on for 2016.
That was never a square ball!!

lenny

Quote from: grounded on August 23, 2015, 07:42:14 PM
I have to say I really enjoyed the game. Was there for the taking for Tyrone. Missed a number of gilt edged goal chances and easy frees. Similar to last years final in many ways, not least with Morgan pressing the self destruct button on a number of occasion. On the balance of things Kerry got the big decisions from the ref/umpires. Its hard to say whether it ultimately affected the outcome but it didn't help Tyrone's cause. For Tyrone I thought Harte, Colm Cavanagh, Bradley and McAliskey stood out. Maybe it was the conditions but I thought Meyler gave away possession a number of times and I'm surprised he wasn't substituted sooner. Just didn't pan out for Sean Cavanagh, game sort of bypassed him.
     For Kerry, Buckley was superb. Really surprised me with his skill and took his scores brilliantly. JOD got a lot of possession and was a constant thorn in Tyrone's side. Gooch came into it later in the game (he took a very dirty hit at the end that should have been a red card). Maher picked up an important point near the end but it wasn't a conventional midfield battle so not as influential as previously. For me the difference was the quality forwards Kerry were able to take on Geaney, O'Sullivan and BJK. They all made important contributions. Also unlike some of the posters here I thought Donnacha Walsh had a great game maybe not MOM but not far away.
     Tyrone just didn't have the killer instinct up front, but both Mayo and Dublin do.

The kerry subs contributed very well especially geaney. What surprised me was how quiet mattie donnelly in particular and also sean cavanagh were. Who was marking donnelly, from tv it looked like david moran. He seemed to do a great job for the team by tracking donnellys runs and tackling him strongly but fairly.

From the Bunker

Quote from: BennyHarp on August 23, 2015, 07:45:51 PM
Quote from: regal on August 23, 2015, 07:17:25 PM
Kerry will be concerned about the form of donaghy and cooper. Donaghy won't be starting the final. Geaney was superb, as were maher, Walsh and o'brien.

Morgan is some gobshite. The other keeper should feel aggrieved as he seems a better keeper. Bradley looks like an excellent and genuine footballer and hopefully we don't start to see him rolling about in the coming years as is the Tyrone way.

Will mickey stay on next year?

He's confirmed he is staying on for 2016.

Is there anybody who could do a better job?

highorlow

The irony is if Tyrone threw off the shackles in that 2nd half and used there skill they could have done it. Time for mickey to leave.
They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

yellowcard

Quote from: lenny on August 23, 2015, 07:54:45 PM
Quote from: grounded on August 23, 2015, 07:42:14 PM
I have to say I really enjoyed the game. Was there for the taking for Tyrone. Missed a number of gilt edged goal chances and easy frees. Similar to last years final in many ways, not least with Morgan pressing the self destruct button on a number of occasion. On the balance of things Kerry got the big decisions from the ref/umpires. Its hard to say whether it ultimately affected the outcome but it didn't help Tyrone's cause. For Tyrone I thought Harte, Colm Cavanagh, Bradley and McAliskey stood out. Maybe it was the conditions but I thought Meyler gave away possession a number of times and I'm surprised he wasn't substituted sooner. Just didn't pan out for Sean Cavanagh, game sort of bypassed him.
     For Kerry, Buckley was superb. Really surprised me with his skill and took his scores brilliantly. JOD got a lot of possession and was a constant thorn in Tyrone's side. Gooch came into it later in the game (he took a very dirty hit at the end that should have been a red card). Maher picked up an important point near the end but it wasn't a conventional midfield battle so not as influential as previously. For me the difference was the quality forwards Kerry were able to take on Geaney, O'Sullivan and BJK. They all made important contributions. Also unlike some of the posters here I thought Donnacha Walsh had a great game maybe not MOM but not far away.
     Tyrone just didn't have the killer instinct up front, but both Mayo and Dublin do.

The kerry subs contributed very well especially geaney. What surprised me was how quiet mattie donnelly in particular and also sean cavanagh were. Who was marking donnelly, from tv it looked like david moran. He seemed to do a great job for the team by tracking donnellys runs and tackling him strongly but fairly.

So good that he was substituted with about 15 minutes to go.

Main Street

Quote from: Put Up That Flag on August 23, 2015, 07:25:44 PM
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Quote from: From the Bunker on August 23, 2015, 05:49:16 PM
Quote from: hurlingstick on August 23, 2015, 05:43:29 PM
The tackle on Cooper surely was a red card too.

Tackle on Cooper a Red, defo. Darran pull down near the end Black (+ Yellow = Red). Enright Yellow was a black.

Was it high? I thought he caught him across the chest?

Assault would be the appropriate word
It had the strong whiff of a vintage Meath hit.

screenexile

All is right with the world again!!

Yes Tyrone performed admirably but logically when this match was considered Kerry were always going to win. They have the players and the pedigree at this level, all of their substitutes would be in Tyrone's first 15.

Having said that Tie Rone gave it  a real rattle and yes some decisions went against them but what do you expect? Have they ever heard of 'The Boy Who Cried Wolf'. You reap what you sow lads. Karma is catching up on you!

In honesty Tyrone didn't deserve to win the game but I will say this. . . They aren't as far away as I and many others thought. If they can keep Cavanagh fit for a couple more seasons they still have a chance although they are still a cut below the top 3.

Really looking forward to next weeks game and the final! They promise to be excellent games!!

PS. McMahon and McNamee clearly demonstrated why Tyrone are so hated. Has the Gooch ever laydown without reason?? Shame on the 2 lads!!

AZOffaly

Quote from: highorlow on August 23, 2015, 08:05:32 PM
The irony is if Tyrone threw off the shackles in that 2nd half and used there skill they could have done it. Time for mickey to leave.

FFS

yellowcard

Quote from: highorlow on August 23, 2015, 08:05:32 PM
The irony is if Tyrone threw off the shackles in that 2nd half and used there skill they could have done it. Time for mickey to leave.

Are you suggesting that Tyrone have better footballers than Kerry? If Tyrone played conventional 15v15 against Kerry the result would have been more emphatic so Harte deserves credit for getting as close to an AI final as he did with those players. I do not subscribe to the theory that this Tyrone team are equipped to win an AI title.

highorlow

[quotQuote from: highorlow on Today at 08:05:32 PM
The irony is if Tyrone threw off the shackles in that 2nd half and used there skill they could have done it. Time for mickey to leave.

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Az switch over to the hurling section where you might know something , oh wait . Z z
They get momentum, they go mad, here they go