Dublin v Kildare - Match Thread!

[Ohtoohtobe]

Just something nobody has passed any remarks about. Dublin's goal at the end of the first half came a full fifteen seconds after the additional minute had elapsed. 

The extra fifteen seconds occurred not because there had been any delay, injury, substitution or time wasting. It occurred because of the stupid convention that the whistle is never blown while a team is attacking, no matter what time it is. Where did this come from? It's not in the rules. Maybe referees are taking the piss out of  Einstein's theory about time being relative.

As it happens, the only time I've ever seen a referee call time exactly on the button as a team was attacking was in last year's Meath-Kildare Leinster SF

While I agree with the sentiment that when time is up, the ref should blow it up, it does my head in when refs blow it up right on the button of the added time that was signalled some minutes earlier. They usually notify the "fourth official" (or whatever he's called in GAA) a couple of minutes before the end. So any stoppages for injuries, substitutions and time-wasting between then and the end need to be added - a lot of refs don't seem to bother.

Plus refs aren't obliged to add on time in round minutes. We don't know how long the ref in the Dub v KE game decided should be added on when he notified the fourth official - could have been 1 min, 1 min 15 secs, 1 min 45 secs - either way the correct decision would be to signal there will be a minimum of 1 additional minute.

It all came from a free that never was, should have been a Kildare side line ball

I heard that Kildare fans were complaining about that. When I looked at it again, it wasn't even debateable. A clear shoulder by Johnny Doyle into the back of Jonny Cooper. As the commentators said, it was a cast iron free.

Didn't speak to Kildare fans who complained about that. While at the game I thought it was harsh but when I saw the replay, it was a definite free (by the way, McQuillan had an excellent game I thought). And even if it had have been harsh, the free didn't cause the goal.

[Jinxy]

It's physically impossible to legally shoulder a man who's bending down to pick up a ball.
Unless you are a dwarf.

[heffo]

It's physically impossible to legally shoulder a man who's bending down to pick up a ball.
Unless you are a dwarf.

You'd want to tell Dinny that - he thinks it wasn't a foul and it changed the whole dynamic of the game

[Dinny Breen]

It's physically impossible to legally shoulder a man who's bending down to pick up a ball.
Unless you are a dwarf.

You'd want to tell Dinny that - he thinks it wasn't a foul and it changed the whole dynamic of the game

Haven't seen a replay, not do I want to, I also stated it wouldn't have changed the result.  I do believe goal just before half-time changes the dynamic, from increasing one teams confidence to reducing the others, team talks are affected, system buy-in, belief are all affected positively and negatively. Do you not think so or are you just completely myopic?

[heffo]

It's physically impossible to legally shoulder a man who's bending down to pick up a ball.
Unless you are a dwarf.

You'd want to tell Dinny that - he thinks it wasn't a foul and it changed the whole dynamic of the game

Haven't seen a replay, not do I want to, I also stated it wouldn't have changed the result.  I do believe goal just before half-time changes the dynamic, from increasing one teams confidence to reducing the others, team talks are affected, system buy-in, belief are all affected positively and negatively. Do you not think so or are you just completely myopic?

You can micro-analyse it all you like - when you concede about 20 goal chances you can have all the team talks in the world.

It was also a cast iron free. Joe loves us though. Favoured us throughout.

[heffo]

On the strength & conditioning issue, what is the background of the Kildare S&C coach? I know Seanie thought so highly of her, he cited her as one of the reasons for going to Kildare.

Given that Dublin moved away from power to their current approach in late 2009, what are Kildare at with their S&C?

[Jinxy]

On the strength & conditioning issue, what is the background of the Kildare S&C coach? I know Seanie thought so highly of her, he cited her as one of the reasons for going to Kildare.

Given that Dublin moved away from power to their current approach in late 2009, what are Kildare at with their S&C?

[Dinny Breen]

On the strength & conditioning issue, what is the background of the Kildare S&C coach? I know Seanie thought so highly of her, he cited her as one of the reasons for going to Kildare.

Given that Dublin moved away from power to their current approach in late 2009, what are Kildare at with their S&C?

I would have thought Dublin just had better footballers but when you spend the kind of money Dublin do on poaching trainers DCU and even lifestyle coaches you might as while try and justify it.

[The Hill is Blue]

What is Kieran McGeeney up to by keeping teams waiting on the pitch after half time? Joe Kernan used to do exactly the same thing.

There might be some merit in the tactic if your team is ahead at half time but if you are trailing surely you should be getting your team out as quickly as possible.

Kieran should give up the mind games. He is more likely to confuse his own team rather than the opposition.

[Dinny Breen]

Why are the Dubs so obsessed with McGeeney? I find it all very odd.

[Dont Matter]

Do you know what else is odd? That this thread is still alive and kicking the Thursday after the match. I don't think there's too much to debate about it. It was one sided and that's it.
Ye boys need to get some new topics and stop going on and on and on about the same old thing.

[INDIANA]

On the strength & conditioning issue, what is the background of the Kildare S&C coach? I know Seanie thought so highly of her, he cited her as one of the reasons for going to Kildare.

Given that Dublin moved away from power to their current approach in late 2009, what are Kildare at with their S&C?

I would have thought Dublin just had better footballers but when you spend the kind of money Dublin do on poaching trainers DCU and even lifestyle coaches you might as while try and justify it.

No need to be bitter Dinny. You're one of the nest resourced counties out there ( as you well know). So maybe you should ask how it's spent.

[Dont Matter]

  I'd say the Lillies waste a good bit of it but ye lot only have one recent senior All Ireland with all your millions.

[Dinny Breen]

Do you know what else is odd? That this thread is still alive and kicking the Thursday after the match. I don't think there's too much to debate about it. It was one sided and that's it.
Ye boys need to get some new topics and stop going on and on and on about the same old thing.

You're not the only one with agendas around here some of the lads just aren't as subtle as you though.

[Dont Matter]

Ah aint that the truth. I get my point across calmly and succinctly in a reasoned and polite manner. Ye Eastern boyos could learn a thing or two about that. All we get is wall to wall innuendo and accusations from you lot. It would drive me to the drink if I wasn't here already.