2010 O'BYRNE CUP SF
QuoteFirst Round
(1) Laois v DIT
(2) Kildare v UCD
(3) Carlow v Athlone IT
(4) Wicklow v Louth
(5) Dublin v Wexford
(6) Longford v Meath
(7) Kilkenny v Offaly
(8 ) Westmeath v DCU
- To be played January 10
Quarter-finals
(9) 1 v 2
(10) 3 v 4
(11) 5 v 6
(12) 7 v 8
- To be played January 17
Semi-finals
(13) 9 v 10
(14) 11 v 12
- To be played January 24
Final: To be played January 31
A win over Longford could give us a shot at the Dubs. Nice!!
Or we could meet them in the O'Byrne shield if things dont go quite to plan.
Beware, the O'Byrne Cup is the highlight of the year in Longford.
Quote from: thejuice on October 09, 2009, 02:26:38 PM
A win over Longford could give us a shot at the Dubs. Nice!!
Haven't the Dubs been sending out an u21 team in this for the past few years?
Should be a good scrap for the bihatimber in January! Roll on the new year
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on October 09, 2009, 03:35:12 PM
Quote from: thejuice on October 09, 2009, 02:26:38 PM
A win over Longford could give us a shot at the Dubs. Nice!!
Haven't the Dubs been sending out an u21 team in this for the past few years?
Should be a good scrap for the bihatimber in January! Roll on the new year
No, last year the senior where away in Spain so the U21 played. Dublin won this in 2007 and 2008
Leinster Council call off all weekend aciton
Due to the current weather conditions, and the weather forecast for the weekend, the Leinster Council GAA has decided to postpone all eight games in Round I of OByrne Cup SF Competition which were scheduled for this weekend.
These games have been re-arranged for the following weekend - venues and times as originally scheduled.
Can't wait now for the big clash in Pearse Park - team of the decade up for grabs, according to Billy's recently published criteria. (I'm a 2001-2010 man meself. Death to the 2000-2009ites).
Fighting words Hardy, put 'em up (as they might say in Bellewstown).
Its actually called Bell-yaas-town.
Meath Supporters Group are running a bus from Navan to Longford for it.
€15 a head = bargain
Think quite a few of our lads are lining out for their Alma Maters instead of the county team. King and Farrell are off galavanting Down Under for the winter, I think anyway. so we'll be without them.
Shamrock Shore thinks (and he's probably know) it's in Ballymahon.
Quote from: Billys Boots on January 07, 2010, 01:16:02 PM
Shamrock Shore thinks (and he's probably know) it's in Ballymahon.
The graveyard of champions.
Juice - it's actually called The Hill.
thats true, played my last game in Ireland up there. Are they using that pitch anymore or have they moved out to Duleek completely?
Well fcuk that.
I was looking forward to the opening game of the season.
Game was scheduled for Ballymahon as the cows are Longford's 16th man. And we need all the help we can get.
All O'Byrne Cup games are officially off this weekend.
Quote from: thejuice on January 07, 2010, 02:19:17 PM
thats true, played my last game in Ireland up there. Are they using that pitch anymore or have they moved out to Duleek completely?
Still open, but I don't know how much they use it.
QuoteThe graveyard of champions.
Won't bother Meath so. Don't know what it is about Ballymahon - the Derry lads complained about everything; the cows, the hedges, the flying saucers. Everything except the fact that they were outclassed on the day, in fact. The Jamesie Martin moment. :)
Kevin Reilly is out for the forseeable future with the same back injury as last year.
McGill for full back? Better establish someone in there now, definitely not Moyles anyway.
Well its kicking off in about 40 minutes or so, no word on the Meath team yet.
Well, its Meath Vs Dublin, Parnell Park next Sunday! ;D
Quarter-finals
Laois v Kildare
Athlone IT v Louth
Dublin v Meath
Offaly v DCU
Quote from: thejuice on January 17, 2010, 03:38:12 PM
Well, its Meath Vs Dublin, Parnell Park next Sunday! ;D
Bad memories of the last such fixture.
If we can beat Dublin and avoid DCU, anything is possible!
Yeah I know it wasn't great but I can't help but get excited at the thoughts of playing the Dubs.
Who got Meath's goals today?
Jamie Queeny and Big Joe
Quote from: thejuice on January 17, 2010, 03:38:12 PM
Well, its Meath Vs Dublin, Parnell Park next Sunday! ;D
Parnell is booked next Sunday for a club game - I'd say it'll be on Saturday night under lights.
Dublin really do seem to get a ridiculous number of home games in this competition.
Can never remember them playing in Navan
Quote from: Barney on January 17, 2010, 09:21:31 PM
Dublin really do seem to get a ridiculous number of home games in this competition.
All games in 2007 were away.
All games in 2008 were at home.
Last year We were away for first game, got home advantage for second game and the U21 team were beaten by Wicklow
Good crowd in Newbridge today for the season opener. Great to have some football to look forward to after the cold snap.
Bit of a mixed bag from Kildare. Started very well and had six points on the board before UCD got their first score. The match should have been over at HT though and the goal we gave away was very sloppy. Corley should have been far more decisive. Dermot's second yellow after HT was harsh enough IMO. O'Loughlin was acting the maggot and it only seemed to be a bit of handbags between the two of them. Not the kind of incident that would've warranted a caution in previous years but times change I suppose. Good to see the team tough it out with 14 men for most of the second half.
Referee was far too whistle happy. Didn't let the game flow at all and the free-count must have been very high. The jury is out on the new rules. I thought the mark worked well but the handpass rule will probably have to be looked at. Very inconsistently applied by today's official to the fustration of everyone.
Rob Kelly, Keith Cribbin and David Whyte all showed that they're capable of pushing for a starting place in the half-forwards. Willie Heff showed well but I doubt he'll start on the edge of the square come the summer. Mac still too ill-disciplined in his tackling and he'll have to stop giving away silly frees if he's to start later on in the year. Chalky at full-back will be an interesting experiment over the next few weeks but he ended up playing most of his football out the field today. Laois up next - always a good tussle against the neighbours!
anyone heard when this is going ahead? is it even this weekend?
FRIDAY 22nd JANUARY
20:00 O'Byrne Shield – DIT v UCD @ Clan na nGael, Ringsend
SATURDAY 23rd JANUARY
13:00 O'Byrne Shield SF – Carlow v Wicklow @ Carlow
19:30 O'Byrne Shield SF – Kilkenny v Westmeath @ Ballyragget
SUNDAY 24th JANUARY
14:00 O'Byrne Cup SF Quarter-Final – Laois v Kildare @ Portlaoise
14:00 O'Byrne Cup SF Quarter-Final – AIT v Louth @ Drogheda
14:00 O'Byrne Cup SF Quarter-Final – Dublin v Meath @ Parnell Park
14:00 O'Byrne Cup SF Quarter-Final – Offaly v DCU @ Tullamore
14:00 O'Byrne Shield SF Quarter-Final – Wexford v Longford @ St Patrick's Park, Enniscorthy
Quote from: heffo on January 17, 2010, 09:18:00 PM
Quote from: thejuice on January 17, 2010, 03:38:12 PM
Well, its Meath Vs Dublin, Parnell Park next Sunday! ;D
Parnell is booked next Sunday for a club game - I'd say it'll be on Saturday night under lights.
Its on hoganstand for 2pm Sunday in Parnell.
EDIT: Thanks Laoisgaa
Inter club game switched to Saturday - Sunday afternoon suits me better!
QuoteInter club game switched to Saturday - Sunday afternoon suits me better!
Likewise - Might head over now
Great game today Dubs 1-15 to 1-18 after extra-time = replay.
Kildare v Laois- 7 sent off - well will there be the uproar media witchhunt against these two teams, will it be on the front page of the Independent with the Headline Blue murder? Will there be a thread 20 pages long with vile and venom from people not associated with these two counties, will it be on RTE for 2 weeks? will the county boards get big fines? Will people name individuals and call them scumbags etc- Doubt it because its not the Dubs.
QuoteKildare v Laois- 7 sent off - well will there be the uproar media witchhunt against these two teams, will it be on the front page of the Independent with the Headline Blue murder? Will there be a thread 20 pages long with vile and venom from people not associated with these two counties, will it be on RTE for 2 weeks? will the county boards get big fines? Will people name individuals and call them scumbags etc- Doubt it because its not the Dubs.
You'd make a lemon whinch..
Quote from: The Aristocrat on January 24, 2010, 04:25:23 PM
Great game today Dubs 1-15 to 1-18 after extra-time = replay.
Kildare v Laois- 7 sent off - well will there be the uproar media witchhunt against these two teams, will it be on the front page of the Independent with the Headline Blue murder? Will there be a thread 20 pages long with vile and venom from people not associated with these two counties, will it be on RTE for 2 weeks? will the county boards get big fines? Will people name individuals and call them scumbags etc- Doubt it because its not the Dubs.
Exciting game not a great game. But a decent afternoons entertainment.
Too many mistakes to be a great game
Quote from: INDIANA on January 24, 2010, 05:16:53 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on January 24, 2010, 04:25:23 PM
Great game today Dubs 1-15 to 1-18 after extra-time = replay.
Kildare v Laois- 7 sent off - well will there be the uproar media witchhunt against these two teams, will it be on the front page of the Independent with the Headline Blue murder? Will there be a thread 20 pages long with vile and venom from people not associated with these two counties, will it be on RTE for 2 weeks? will the county boards get big fines? Will people name individuals and call them scumbags etc- Doubt it because its not the Dubs.
Exciting game not a great game. But a decent afternoons entertainment.
Too many mistakes to be a great game
True, exciting is the word.
Enjoyable fare for this time of year.
Ref was quite fussy but he has to implement the rules I suppose.
Keep the mark (because we caught plenty of ball!) but get rid of that fist-pass rule.
Delighted to see Jamie Queeney is developing into a very dangerous forward.
Followed him from U-21's on and I think he has all the necessary tools to make his mark this year.
Biggy Reilly played well too.
We are still way too ponderous when we have possession in our own half though.
With the fist-pass rule it is difficult to work it out through the hands as the ball spends more time in the air, thus giving the opposition time to get a hand in.
Moyles is the only defender we have that can see when somethings not working and change it up.
Niall McKeigue was completely at fault for both goals and this nearly cost us the game.
For Dublin I thought Hubbard, McMenamon and Kelly played well.
I'd say both camps will be happy to get another competitive game under their belts.
Lots of new faces on both teams and these are the sort of games that show you where they are at.
I'm presuming we now get to play Dublin in Navan, AT LAST! ;D
Quote from: Jinxy on January 24, 2010, 05:52:31 PM
Enjoyable fare for this time of year.
Ref was quite fussy but he has to implement the rules I suppose.
Keep the mark (because we caught plenty of ball!) but get rid of that fist-pass rule.
Delighted to see Jamie Queeney is developing into a very dangerous forward.
Followed him from U-21's on and I think he has all the necessary tools to make his mark this year.
Biggy Reilly played well too.
We are still way too ponderous when we have possession in our own half though.
With the fist-pass rule it is difficult to work it out through the hands as the ball spends more time in the air, thus giving the opposition time to get a hand in.
Moyles is the only defender we have that can see when somethings not working and change it up.
Niall McKeigue was completely at fault for both goals and this nearly cost us the game.
For Dublin I thought Hubbard, McMenamon and Kelly played well.
I'd say both camps will be happy to get another competitive game under their belts.
Lots of new faces on both teams and these are the sort of games that show you where they are at.
I'm presuming we now get to play Dublin in Navan, AT LAST! ;D
I thought Young Dara Nelson at wb for Dublin was outstanding. Henry gave a decent shift but Graham Reilly played well on him.
Best player on the pitch was Queeney-excellent prospect- big strong quick and can score.
Bernard Brogan came on and kicked 3 balls into the keepers hands which meath went the full length of the pitch on the last one to equalise.
We were also 4 up in the last period of extra time and still ballsed it up to need a point to level it.
Enjoyable but of the 40 odd players today on both sides probably only 8/9 will see championship action.
Navan on Wednesday night.
True but you know yourself Indiana, if you can find even one or two new lads that will be an addition to the championship squad that's all you want from these games.
We need to play Queeney at FF consistently from now on.
I think Joe is happier at centre forward anyway.
A forward line of Byrne, Sheridan, S Bray, Ward, Queeney, D Bray is pretty decent.
I would hope Nestor and O'Rourke come back into the mix as well.
Defensively we have problems though.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on January 24, 2010, 04:25:23 PM
Kildare v Laois- 7 sent off - well will there be the uproar media witchhunt against these two teams, will it be on the front page of the Independent with the Headline Blue murder? Will there be a thread 20 pages long with vile and venom from people not associated with these two counties, will it be on RTE for 2 weeks? will the county boards get big fines? Will people name individuals and call them scumbags etc- Doubt it because its not the Dubs.
Get the violins out. ::)
Desperate game. Familiarity really does breed contempt. The NFL game should be interesting to say the least!
Excuse me, this is the Meath Dublin thread.
Take your handbags elsewhere please. ;D
Why is your man whingeing about the Kildare/Laois match then Jinxy? :P
He'll be on to Joe Duffy tomorrow proclaiming his outrage!
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on January 25, 2010, 02:46:58 AM
Why is your man whingeing about the Kildare/Laois match then Jinxy? :P
He'll be on to Joe Duffy tomorrow proclaiming his outrage!
Never though Laois had it in them. Kildare team is average 6ft 1 and 13-14 stone. Laois must have been body punching or something because half of them wouldn't be up to the elbow of some of the Kildare team.
Dubs & Meath was exciting enough for the time of year - Queeney up front for Meath stood out.
From a Dublin perspective, it's good that we have another game Wednesday - we need the likes of Deans Kelly & Rock, McCauley etc getting more game time before Killarney.
Regarding the Laois v Kildare brawl, I'd expect a similar level of punishment to be handed down as was two years ago for the Dublin v Meath game and a similar level of hand-wringing by the journalists present - I wonder whether Ian O'Riordan witnessed any 'sickening punches' this time?
Kildare and Laois deserve any suspensions they get for stupidity alone ffs John Doyle is captain and should know better. The punishments will be similar to two years ago but the Dubs make great copy so there will be less of the hand-wringing plus it was a HEC weekend so plenty of other things happening to keep it out of the news, no TV camera's helps as well.
Saw Eamonn Fennell out at Páirc Ciceam last week and truth be told he didn't play too well ( understandable after lay off). A big lad who imo should stay out of the gym to improve his mobility.
Not too convinced that he is championship material but would love to be proved wrong.
Quote from: Canalman on January 25, 2010, 12:40:20 PM
Saw Eamonn Fennell out at Páirc Ciceam last week and truth be told he didn't play too well ( understandable after lay off). A big lad who imo should stay out of the gym to improve his mobility.
Not too convinced that he is championship material but would love to be proved wrong.
Just to let people know I'm not in favour of his proposed transfer to vincents. Just in case people think I'm changing my stance in relation to outside players because its my club. We had a guy who played midfield on the Dublin minors last year. He'll probably be sitting on the bench because of this. Thats Dublin football for you.
Thought Mark Ward was poor again yesterday.
Bad tackling, poor attempts at fielding and a lot of aimless hoofs into the forwards.
Was happy to see Brian Meade come on TBH.
Quotelot of aimless hoofs into the forwards
He wasn't alone in that Jinxy. In fact both teams were guilty in that regard
We put some good ball in during the first half.
Stopped kicking it altogether in the 2nd half.
Maybe the breeze was stronger than I thought.
Every time it got to Queeney he did something with it so it was pretty frustrating watching them trying to run it out of defence and through midfield.
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on January 25, 2010, 02:46:58 AM
Why is your man whingeing about the Kildare/Laois match then Jinxy? :P
He'll be on to Joe Duffy tomorrow proclaiming his outrage!
Ha, Like our Laois friends who are big fans of that show as we know.
I wasnt whinging, was half joking but half serious, its double standards for a lot of counties when it comes to this stuff.
Anyway nothing gives me more pleasure than to see Laois lose a game of ball so....
QuoteJust to let people know I'm not in favour of his proposed transfer to vincents. Just in case people think I'm changing my stance in relation to outside players because its my club. We had a guy who played midfield on the Dublin minors last year. He'll probably be sitting on the bench because of this. Thats Dublin football for you.
Well your view held at last nigt's CB meeting Indiana. Clubs voted 33 all and Harrington gave casting vote in refusing transfer request.
Quote from: Declan on January 26, 2010, 08:09:18 AM
QuoteJust to let people know I'm not in favour of his proposed transfer to vincents. Just in case people think I'm changing my stance in relation to outside players because its my club. We had a guy who played midfield on the Dublin minors last year. He'll probably be sitting on the bench because of this. Thats Dublin football for you.
Well your view held at last nigt's CB meeting Indiana. Clubs voted 33 all and Harrington gave casting vote in refusing transfer request.
If he hadn't voted against, that would've been the floodgates opening.
I think this is going to get messy now - Croker have already told the DCB they don't want to get involved - I can't see him transferring to a club in Meath as he works as a GPO in Cabra...it may be the only available to him though..
I can see both sides of the argument heffo but to me this indicates that the club "own" the player so to speak which completely contradicts the amateur ethos.
I suppose the ironic thing is that in reality you could count one one hand the number of club games a Dublin intercounty player plays for his team during a particular year.
The Dublin County Committee has issued a statement regarding the denial of Eamon Fennell's transfer application.
The statement read: 'The Dublin County Committee last evening considered an application from Eamon Fennell to transfer from O'Toole's to St Vincent's GAA Club.
'A player who wishes to leave one club to join another must apply to the County Committee for a transfer.
'A County Committee has the right, acting within its Bye-Law, to grant or not to grant an application for transfer. The committee refused to grant the transfer application.'
The Dublin Transfer Byelaw states: 'As the GAA is community centred, based on the allegiance of its members to their local clubs, the object of which is to promote the Association's aims at local level, the transfer rules in the Official Guide and this Bye-Law reflect that ethos.
'A player is considered to always owe allegiance and loyalty to the club he first legally participated with in club competition.'
To me there is a lot of contradictions and hypocrisy about this statement.They're saying that in a way all these rules must apply in their decision making about eamons situation,but if it were a less high profile player the rules are more than usually forgotten about.We all know of players in the past transfering to other clubs in the county,and i've never seen a statement about by laws released like this.A the end of the day someone is gonna feel short changed about this whole thing.Hope for eamons sake,dublins sake,and our whole club scene in generals sake that it gets finally sorted,cause by the sound of things it aint over just yet.
I find the DCB statement containing words such as community centred, allegiance, loyalty, ethos, nurtured, etc. to be a tad ironic given their silence on Parnells using "incentives" to acquire players.
Total coincidence that Parnells come into big money, and suddenly they are acquiring new players...
Quote from: ricky-bobby on January 26, 2010, 09:39:48 AM
The Dublin County Committee has issued a statement regarding the denial of Eamon Fennell's transfer application.
The statement read: 'The Dublin County Committee last evening considered an application from Eamon Fennell to transfer from O'Toole's to St Vincent's GAA Club.
'A player who wishes to leave one club to join another must apply to the County Committee for a transfer.
'A County Committee has the right, acting within its Bye-Law, to grant or not to grant an application for transfer. The committee refused to grant the transfer application.'
The Dublin Transfer Byelaw states: 'As the GAA is community centred, based on the allegiance of its members to their local clubs, the object of which is to promote the Association's aims at local level, the transfer rules in the Official Guide and this Bye-Law reflect that ethos.
'A player is considered to always owe allegiance and loyalty to the club he first legally participated with in club competition.'
To me there is a lot of contradictions and hypocrisy about this statement.They're saying that in a way all these rules must apply in their decision making about eamons situation,but if it were a less high profile player the rules are more than usually forgotten about.We all know of players in the past transfering to other clubs in the county,and i've never seen a statement about by laws released like this.A the end of the day someone is gonna feel short changed about this whole thing.Hope for eamons sake,dublins sake,and our whole club scene in generals sake that it gets finally sorted,cause by the sound of things it aint over just yet.
In relation to the matter-I'd prefer if our club developed its own players. Thats my view.
Heffo is right- if it had gone through- dublin will lose 10-20 clubs within 10 years. Small clubs are being decimated by players leaving them to go to bigger outfits. This isn't cut and dried as some may think- the transfer has been a mess from start to finish. A total mess from all sides.
A ruling that was never going to please everyone and I feel sorry for Eamonn Fennell being caught in the middle of it. Can't personally blame him for wanting to leave O'Tooles who are/were one of only 3/4 clubs in the county I feared playing...... and not for their playing prowess.
However, I feel that a clear message has gone out that the "rights" of"smaller clubs" cannot be disregarded. The "rights" of individual players I admit has been sidelined for better or worse.
Still, this can and possibly will lead to some clubs vindictively not allowing transfers even when players completely fall out with the club.
This is going to rumble on.
Would he play his club football in Meath I wonder ;) ;)
Quote from: Canalman on January 26, 2010, 09:55:34 AM
A ruling that was never going to please everyone and I feel sorry for Eamonn Fennell being caught in the middle of it. Can't personally blame him for wanting to leave O'Tooles who are/were one of only 3/4 clubs in the county I feared playing...... and not for their playing prowess.
However, I feel that a clear message has gone out that the "rights" of"smaller clubs" cannot be disregarded. The "rights" of individual players I admit has been sidelined for better or worse.
Still, this can and possibly will lead to some clubs vindictively not allowing transfers even when players completely fall out with the club.
This is going to rumble on.
I don't think so- its a case by case basis. This isn't a generic ruling. They had their reasons for not allowing it.
What can the DCB do. All div1 clubs (including mine) have been an absolute disgrace when it comes to transfer sin Dublin. A disgrace full stop. The DCB has to take a stand sometime to save the game in the capital.
Quote from: Declan on January 26, 2010, 10:01:13 AM
Would he play his club football in Meath I wonder ;) ;)
Similar to Anythony Moyles in Meath - his transfer within Meath was blocked so he joined Plunketts
Quote from: heffo on January 26, 2010, 10:09:42 AM
Quote from: Declan on January 26, 2010, 10:01:13 AM
Would he play his club football in Meath I wonder ;) ;)
Similar to Anythony Moyles in Meath - his transfer within Meath was blocked so he joined Plunketts
There are safeguards now- hence the reason why Moyles hasn't transferred back to Meath. The Gaa rule book suggests you have to wait 2 years and you must transfer back to your original club. Because everyone was signing up for 12 months and then going to the club in thier county they were refused initially from.
Quote from: Hound on January 26, 2010, 09:45:25 AM
I find the DCB statement containing words such as community centred, allegiance, loyalty, ethos, nurtured, etc. to be a tad ironic given their silence on Parnells using "incentives" to acquire players.
Total coincidence that Parnells come into big money, and suddenly they are acquiring new players...
ah give it a rest will ya.everyone knows the situation.nothing wrong with the INCENTIVE of giving a lad a job to promote gaa and the club in the biggest catchment area in ireland.cause at the end of the day G.P.O is a job and an important one too.
I think its a big loss with eamon,as soon the first o'tooles game is played and he isn't there then we cant use him,and judging by the cup games so far,we need him badly.thought he was great in both,his presence is huge.
Dubs going back to the future naming Ross McConnell at full back obviously to counter Queeney.
Glad to see Dean Kelly getting another run - overall though it's not a great team and I'd much rather win tonight and get another game Sunday.
Can anyone who drives that way regularly tell me how bad the traffic at Blanch roundabout is - not looking forward to trying to get out here for 7.45 tonight.
DUBLIN (SF v Meath)
1. Craig Reilly
2. Paul Conlon
3. Ross McConnell
4. Conor McCormack
5. Paul Casey
6. Brian Sexton
7. Derek Murray
8. Denis Carrigan
9. Eamon Fennell
10. Dean Kelly
11. Stephen O'Shaughnessy
12. Kevin Bonner
13. Andrew Kerin
14. Colin Daly
15. Bernard Brogan
Subs:
16. Stephen Cluxton
17. Neil O'Connor
18. Seán Murray
19. Darren Daly
20. James McCarthy
21. Chris Guckian
22. Tiernan Diamond
23. James Brogan
24. Liam Óg Ó hEineachain
Distinctly underwhelming I'm afraid.
Quote from: heffo on January 27, 2010, 09:19:40 AM
Dubs going back to the future naming Ross McConnell at full back obviously to counter Queeney.
Glad to see Dean Kelly getting another run - overall though it's not a great team and I'd much rather win tonight and get another game Sunday.
Can anyone who drives that way regularly tell me how bad the traffic at Blanch roundabout is - not looking forward to trying to get out here for 7.45 tonight.
Do you mean the M50 roundabout?
The one after that (to get into Blanch village) is gone now and there are lights instead.
Much better.
The roundabout before the M50 (just after Brigids) is the worst.
Quote from: Jinxy on January 27, 2010, 10:03:47 AM
Quote from: heffo on January 27, 2010, 09:19:40 AM
Dubs going back to the future naming Ross McConnell at full back obviously to counter Queeney.
Glad to see Dean Kelly getting another run - overall though it's not a great team and I'd much rather win tonight and get another game Sunday.
Can anyone who drives that way regularly tell me how bad the traffic at Blanch roundabout is - not looking forward to trying to get out here for 7.45 tonight.
Do you mean the M50 roundabout?
The one after that (to get into Blanch village) is gone now and there are lights instead.
Much better.
The roundabout before the M50 (just after Brigids) is the worst.
Yeah meant M50 roundabout - as in leaving the M50 Northbound at Blanch
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Can anyone who drives that way regularly tell me how bad the traffic at Blanch roundabout is - not looking forward to trying to get out here for 7.45 tonight.
If you're coming out from town out the Navan Road it can get pretty brutal from after the halfway house roundabout till you get through blanch alright. However at the end of the Clonee bypass till fairyhouse cross is crap as well due to the ongoing M3 roadworks. Depending on what time you're leaving at I'd be tempted to take the N2 and divert through Ratoath etc but if you need directions on that route PM me.
However with a 7.45 throw in it mightn't be that bad from about 7 onwards
Heffo - that northbound exit is usually OK and not as bad as other ones but as I said depending on time you're hitting the clonee bypass the tailback there can be brutal
Just to be clear what would be the recommended route this evening coming from the northside. Wasn't going to go but have decided to go now.
Indiana - I'd be tempted to head out the new N2 and either exit at Ashbourne/Ratoath turn off go through Ratoath and head across to N3 at Dunshaughlin or even keep going on the N2 and either turn left for Rathfeigh/Skryne to come out on N3 near Tara or head out further to Balrath Cross and turn left and come into Navan on Kentstown road. Disadvantage is the cross country roads aren't great and depending on what time you intend to leave Dublin at the N3 traffic may have subsided.
ANy of the Meath posters going?
Can't make it tonight.
Quote from: Declan on January 27, 2010, 10:37:26 AM
Indiana - I'd be tempted to head out the new N2 and either exit at Ashbourne/Ratoath turn off go through Ratoath and head across to N3 at Dunshaughlin or even keep going on the N2 and either turn left for Rathfeigh/Skryne to come out on N3 near Tara or head out further to Balrath Cross and turn left and come into Navan on Kentstown road. Disadvantage is the cross country roads aren't great and depending on what time you intend to leave Dublin at the N3 traffic may have subsided.
thks declan I think thats sounds a lot better than the usual route.
Any sign of a Meath team named?
No team named yet but this was in the independent:
QuoteMeath manager Eamonn O'Brien is expected to make a number of changes. O'Brien will not risk Seamus Kenny after he picked up a dead leg in the drawn game, while Eoghan Harrington is also expected to sit out the match as a precaution.
Gary O'Brien, who replaced Kenny at Parnell Park, is expected to start tonight while Brian Meade, Stephen Bray and Cormac McGill are all also in line for selection. David Lyons should continue in goals as both Paddy O'Rourke and Brendan Murphy recover from slight knocks ahead of what is Dublin's first trip to Navan in 21 years.
Meath 1-10
Dublin 1-09
Nice to win a close game.
Sounds like it should have been over at half-time but Dublin came back into it well in the 2nd half.
Last kick of the game to win it.
Sounds like Ollie Lewis and Davy Dalton jr did very well for us.
We could do with a sticky corner back!
Semi-Finals
Kildare v Louth
DCU v Meath
Louth are playing good football so far putting up good scores. I would reckon they'll beat Kildare actually.
Does anyone know who is on the DCU team. I think there might be some Meath men on it.
QuoteI would reckon they'll beat Kildare actually.
Well they are the reigning champs, the Lily-whites will do well to get within 6 points.
Quote from: Jinxy on January 27, 2010, 09:26:12 PM
Meath 1-10
Dublin 1-09
Nice to win a close game.
Sounds like it should have been over at half-time but Dublin came back into it well in the 2nd half.
Last kick of the game to win it.
Sounds like Ollie Lewis and Davy Dalton jr did very well for us.
We could do with a sticky corner back!
So could we. >:(
What club is he with? Blackhall Gaels? Summerhill?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 27, 2010, 10:09:22 PM
QuoteI would reckon they'll beat Kildare actually.
Well they are the reigning champs, the Lily-whites will do well to get within 6 points.
We haven't a prayer Dinny. Flats and JD suspended with more likely to be ruled out tomorrow night. We'll struggle to keep it kicked out to them.
Summerhill.
Saw plenty of it this evening.
Is this a new Lilywhite strategy - pretend to be Kerrymen. Is it a Micko hangover? ::)
Quote from: Jinxy on January 27, 2010, 09:26:12 PM
Meath 1-10
Dublin 1-09
Nice to win a close game.
Sounds like it should have been over at half-time but Dublin came back into it well in the 2nd half.
Last kick of the game to win it.
Sounds like Ollie Lewis and Davy Dalton jr did very well for us.
We could do with a sticky corner back!
Game to 2 halves. We were brutal in the first and very good in the 2nd.
dean kelly did very well. Brogan came into the game well- despite marking a good player. Mc Connell did a good job on Queeney at full back.
Fennell had a decent shift at midfield as well. Hard to know how many lads will make the squad becasue of the the colleges involvement.
Thought the meath number 3 did well. Didn't really know the other Meath lads who did well. But I think Meath could be in decent shape this year. the substitutions worked against them when they brough on their recognised players surprisingly.
I don't really understand why Bray and Ward were brought on when we already had the upper hand.
We know what they can do, leave the new lads on and give them a chance to show what they can do.
Did Macken play well Indiana?
I thought he did ok in Parnell Park but he tended to hang onto the ball a bit longer than I'd like for a full back.
Coughed up a good bit of possession that day.
I'd be all for giving himself and Dalton plenty of game-time and let them learn as they go.
Quote from: Jinxy on January 28, 2010, 10:12:11 AM
I don't really understand why Bray and Ward were brought on when we already had the upper hand.
We know what they can do, leave the new lads on and give them a chance to show what they can do.
Did Macken play well Indiana?
I thought he did ok in Parnell Park but he tended to hang onto the ball a bit longer than I'd like for a full back.
Coughed up a good bit of possession that day.
I'd be all for giving himself and Dalton plenty of game-time and let them learn as they go.
Macken has the physical attributes and pace as well in my view but he can be brain dead coming out with the ball. Thats his biggest weakness.
Thought Dalton did well. That was good from Brogan last night because Dalton was well on top early on. Bernard usually doesn't come into games he starts badly in. Hopefully now with a bit of experience he's getting better at that. Both teams had as many newcomers as each other.
Still the best player over the 2 games was Queeney- still popped up with a nice goal despite being under the cosh. For Dublin probably Dean Kelly over the 2 games was our best find with Mc Menamon.
Big problem last night was lads couldn't play midweek due to work. Wouldn't have been a problem 2-3 years ago.
Quote from: thejuice on January 27, 2010, 10:03:23 PM
Semi-Finals
Kildare v Louth
DCU v Meath
Louth are playing good football so far putting up good scores. I would reckon they'll beat Kildare actually.
Does anyone know who is on the DCU team. I think there might be some Meath men on it.
Juice-
M Boyle-don't know; P McMahon- dub, K Gavin- westmeath, D Mooney- don't know; K Nolan-dub, B Cullen-dub, J Cooper-dub; B Sheridan-meath, D Sheridan- don't know; P Flynn-dub, R Flanagan-cavan, P Byrne; W Mulhall-offaly, D Shine-ros, D Kelly-sligo. Subs: C Cregg-ros for Byrne (h-t), S Johnston-cavan for Mulhall (h-t), H Gill-dub for Gavin (h-t), P Andrews-dub for Kelly (62
Quote from: INDIANA on January 28, 2010, 10:56:57 AM
Macken has the physical attributes and pace as well in my view but he can be brain dead coming out with the ball. Thats his biggest weakness.
Yeah it was the same in Parnell Park.
Running into trouble and losing possession.
I still think there is a lot to be said for driving the ball as far down the field as you can if you are feeling the heat in defence.
Better than trying to hand pass your way out of trouble anyway.
McGuinness is good for you
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Meath 1-10 Dublin 1-9
Cormac McGuinness fired Meath into the semi-final of the O'Byrne Cup in front of 5,500 fans at Pairc Tailteann tonight.
Meath were ahead by 0-7 to 0-2 at the interval and survived a third-quarter fade-out which included a penalty save by David Lyons.
Dublin levelled in the 70th minute, but McGuinness got forward to claim the crucial score in a game that produced a number of flashpoints on and off the pitch.
Meath dominated the opening half and were well worth that five-point interval advantage.
The Royal County players worked very hard to deny Dublin any clear-cut chances which resulted in only a brace of first-half Bernard Brogan points for the men from the capital who were visiting Navan for the first time in over 20 years.
Dublin's ace forward had to wait all of 23 minutes to open his account from play and he managed to double his tally in the third minute of injury-time.
Dublin's opportunities were restricted by an impressive Meath full-back line in which Davy Dalton, James Macken and Niall McKeigue were solid and uncompromising.
Meath lost midfielder Maurice Kennedy to a 16th minute injury (thought to be a dislocated knee) and as he was stretchered-off and brought to hospital there was a flare-up on the sideline.
Gilroy was trying to talk to full-forward Colin Daly near the sideline, but outside his technical area and Macken had followed the Skerries man as pat of his marking duties.
The linesman had to intervene as an elbow was raised and the Westmeath referee Pat Fox cautioned (yellow card) both players.
That incident fired-up the Meath supporters who had voiced their disapproval when Daly escaped censure for a high challenge on Peadar Byrne after only 25 seconds.
Meath were ahead by 0-2 to 0-0 at that stage after Jamie Queeney opened the scoring and Joe Sheridan claimed an opportunist point from what looked like a hopeless ball into the square.
Mark Ward replaced Kennedy and produced a fine performance. He claimed some mighty possession as Meath continued to dictate to half-time with further points from David Bray (two), Queeney, Ollie Lewis and Brian Meade.
Cian Ward replaced Stephen Kennedy at half-time, but the second-half was scarcely 30 seconds old when Macken fouled Daly and the referee pointed to the spot. Brogan's shot was spectacularly saved (at the expense of a '45') by Lyons.
Meath lost their shape subsequently, due in part to the departure of Joe Sheridan (hamstring injury) after only 60 seconds of the second-half (Stephen Bray replaced him).
The Dublin points flowed from Eamonn Fennell, Dean Kelly and Brogan which reduced the deficit to two points (0-5 to 0-7).
David Bray and Brogan traded points before Brogan finished to the net for a crucial Dublin goal, but by the end of the third-quarter Queeney had drawn the sides level again (0-9 to 1-6).
Central to a lot of Meath attacks was Na Fianna's Ollie Lewis who survived a series of robust challenges which included a blatant hand trip by Kevin Bonner who saw yellow.
Brogan pointed Dublin ahead, but Meath found the perfect response when David Bray and Cian Ward released Queeney and the net bulged.
This might only have been the O'Byrne Cup at the end of January, but Pairc Tailteann erupted.
Dublin showed commendable character to get back on terms with points from Fennell and Bonner, but when substitute goalkeeper Paddy O'Rourke fielded a high ball, it set in motion the move for the winning point.
Cian Ward and Lewis were involved in keeping possession and it fell to McGuinness to show some composure and split the posts.
Meath - David Lyons; David dalton, James Macken, Niall McKeigue; Gary O'Brien, Cormac McGuinness (0-1), Stephen Sheridan; Maurice Kennedy, Brian Meade (0-1); Peadar Byrne, Joe Sheridan (0-1), Ollie Lewis (0-1); David Bray (0-3), Jamie Queeney (1-3), Stephen Kennedy.
Subs - Mark Ward for Maurice Kennedy, Cian Ward for Stephen Kennedy, Stephen Bray for Joe Sheridan, Paddy O'Rourke for David Lyons, Graham Reilly for Byrne.
Dublin - Craig Reilly; Paul Conlon, Ross McConnell, Conor McCormack; Paul Casey, Brian Sexton, Chris Guckian; Denis Carrigan, Eamonn Fennell (0-2); Dean Kelly (0-1), Stephen O'Shaughnessy, Kevin Bonner (0-1); Andrew Kerin, Colin Daly, Bernard Brogan (1-5).
Subs - Dan Watson for Kerin, Sean Murray for Guckian, Tiernan Diamond for O'Shaughnessy, Niall O'Connor for Conlon, Liam Fleming for Sexton.
Referee - Pat Fox (Westmeath)
* Navan Gardai also had to intervene to separate Meath and Dublin supporters as a melee threatened to escalate at the O'Mahonys end of the ground during the game.
Lads anyone notice this at the end of the game? Not a good sign
Didn't see any trouble myself.
Quote from: Jinxy on January 28, 2010, 10:12:11 AM
I don't really understand why Bray and Ward were brought on when we already had the upper hand.
Bray was brought on for Joe who tweaked his hamstring.
Pity about Marice Kennedy. sounds like an awful injury.
Very dissappointed to read about the crowd trouble, I don't know how serious it was but Meath and Dublin's rivalry is not one built on animosity between either the players or supporters. Lets keep it that way
Quote from: INDIANA on January 28, 2010, 11:00:20 AM
Quote from: thejuice on January 27, 2010, 10:03:23 PM
Semi-Finals
Kildare v Louth
DCU v Meath
Louth are playing good football so far putting up good scores. I would reckon they'll beat Kildare actually.
Does anyone know who is on the DCU team. I think there might be some Meath men on it.
Juice-
M Boyle-don't know; P McMahon- dub, K Gavin- westmeath, D Mooney- don't know; K Nolan-dub, B Cullen-dub, J Cooper-dub; B Sheridan-meath, D Sheridan- don't know; P Flynn-dub, R Flanagan-cavan, P Byrne; W Mulhall-offaly, D Shine-ros, D Kelly-sligo. Subs: C Cregg-ros for Byrne (h-t), S Johnston-cavan for Mulhall (h-t), H Gill-dub for Gavin (h-t), P Andrews-dub for Kelly (62
D Sheridan is probably Dermot Sheridan of Cavan Indiana.
There was no crowd trouble, there was loads of kids down there and two Meath aul fella's had a few words and the kids start going fight , fight , fight, nothin happened, terrible journalism, published without fact/
8 week ban for Morgan O'Flaherty and a 4 week ban for Johnny Doyle after Sunday's scrap in Portlaoise. The four Laois players got 4 week bans too but due to one of the many wonderful anomalies in the GAA disciplinary system, they will only miss one NFL game, whereas JD will miss two because our second match with Tipperary is on the Saturday and Laois' match with Donegal is on the Sunday.
When are they going to bring in match suspensions instead of banning people for a specific number of weeks? The pointless token bans given to Denis Bastic and Ciarán Whelan after last year's quarter final with Kerry are another example of this baffling aspect of the GAA disciplinary system.
Sorry if this has been mentioned but why did Fennell come on for the dubs if he hasn't played club football in over a year? How could management put confidence in a that player?
Kildare manager Kieran McGeeney has dropped star forward Alan Smith from his panel.
Nominated for an All-Star award last year after scoring 4-9 in the Lilywhites' run to the All-Ireland quarter-final, the lethal corner forward has been axed after suffering an early season injury. The Sarsfields clubman has been unable to play in the O'Byrne Cup after injuring his back during a weights session and the Kildare backroom team decided it was best to remove him from the panel at this time..
Smith first came to prominence in Kildare's march to the 2008 All-Ireland under 21 final which they lost to Kerry. It remains to be seen if he will return to the fold later in the season.
I trust Geezer on this.
Alan's head is all over the place as he has some personal issues hanging over him, no point in discussing them here but hopefully he'll get head straight as I don't think we can replace him.
No surprise really. Good decision to allow him get himself sorted out. He'll be long back on the panel before the summer.
Our first two league outings look quite daunting now without JD and Smith though. Kavanagh has to be doubtful enough as well given that he hasn't featured yet so far. Rob Kelly has been taking a lot of the slack on the scoring front. Hopefully that can continue. Paudie O'Neill and Roli need to be chipping in on the scoreboard more often now starting this weekend. David Whyte will be putting them both under pressure for their starting positions this year. Keith Cribbin has shown some promise but he is far from the finished article. He'll be an excellent player when he fills out a bit.
Dermot Early playing some stuff.
Keeper caught out badly there. Mc Geeney not be happy with that, poor lad!
Poor enough fare, Kildare looked like they could move up the gears, didn't and then died an awful death. Louth got the goal that was always going to win it at that stage. Big problems at full back.
Tame enough stuff compared to last Sunday. Big problems at full-back alright Dinny. We don't look in good shape there and we'll be in trouble next Sunday if Benny Coulter gets that kind of space. Whether they'll persist with Chalky is anyones guess. I'd have Kevin O'Neill back in or even Hughie McGrillen but I don't know whether he was back today for DCU. Lyons could be another option but he looked miles off the pace when introduced.
The forwards were very static and one-paced. We badly miss JD, Smith and Leper to add a bit of pace. It was heartening to see Jimmers introduced though. Karl Ennis looked sharp enough but he has definitely lost the pace that marked him out a few years ago. Ronan Walsh in the full-forward line I can't understand. Surely there's better corner-forwards than him in the county (O'Sullivan, Smullen). Cribbin showed one or two nice touches but was bullied out of it too often. Paudie O'Neill was poor and Roli was terrible when he came on. The lack of options in the forwards at the moment is worrying.
McCormack will have nightmares about the goal. Keeper position is also becoming a bit of an issue because Corley has never looked entirely convincing there either. There's no point in overreacting to an O'Byrne Cup game (DCU hammered us this time last year), but we'll have to improve an awful lot to get something against Down next weekend.
Damn you Royals and we were all looking forward to a Louth v Meath derby match in my house :D
Under the lights in Navan, midweek, I'd say it could have got a good crowd (as the Dublin v Meath match did last week)
it'd have been nice alright, ah sure, see ya's in the summer, maybe.
The O'Byrne Cup/Shield finally ended today!
Pretty strange Shield final between Carlow and Wexford, where 5 mins from HT Wexford led 2-7 to 0-3. And Carlow ended up winning 1-15 to 2-8 !!
It was a very much reserve Carlow side and we really don't have much as back up, but they are doing all the training so deserved a run. Some were badly shown up in 1st half. Wexford dominated at midfield with Brendan Doyle having a stormer and Deely and Ben Brosnan who looks a class act causing all sorts of trouble.
But at ht we brought on four of our better players, and the game transformed completely.Carlow won 2nd half 1-10 to a point, despite playing with 14 for most of 2nd half. Great comeback, and quality scores taken.
But a costly one for the league as a straight red for our main freetaker, and a bad injury to Simon Rea who is our best forward puts them out of Wicklow game next week.
Nice to win a trophy (well shield in this case) as any kind of tournament win is extremely rare for us!
Steve do you know if Wexford made many changes at half time?
Quote from: boro on March 01, 2010, 10:22:29 AM
Steve do you know if Wexford made many changes at half time?
Sorry, bit late replying but haven't been on here since.
They made the 1 change at ht.
Teams and subs made were:
Carlow - M Hennessy; S Daly, S Myers, P Murphy; P Cashin (0-2), M Nolan, D Dowling; J Murphy (0-1), K Doyle (0-1); J Doyle, S Gannon (0-1), M Davis; E McCormack (0-1), E O'Toole, J Kavanagh (1-4, 2f). Subs: S Rea (0-4, 2f, 1 '45) for Davis (h-t); W Minchin (0-1) for O'Toole (h-t); A Curran for Dowling (h-t); T Bolger for Daly (h-t); K Nolan for M Nolan (45).
Wexford - J Russell; D Walsh, J Wadding, D Carter; K Kennedy, E Bradley (0-1), D Kehoe; D Waters, B Doyle; C Deeley (0-2), C Byrne (0-1), P Naughter; B Brosnan (1-3, 1f), A Flynn (1-1), C Carthy. Subs: T Sheehy for Waters (h-t); W Atkinson for Walsh (48); C Kenneally for Kehoe (51); R Tierney for Carter (58).