Man Utd Thread:

[Norf Tyrone]

Surely accusing somebody in the wrong is accusing somebody in the wrong? Why should it be different if you accuse a groundsman/referee or anyone for that matter.

If you're caught out for the lie you should take your oil! The Evra incident and Mikel incident should be treated the same. Although is it not reported that it wasn't Mikel who heard it but another Chelsea player?

The papers today and yesterday are now back tracking and it appears (acc to them papers) that Mikel did hear 'it', and there was no mass Chelsea rush into the referee's changing area as they roared last week.

[Jonah]

Groundsmen are less important than refs are they, or how are they different?

Would the groundsman's career have been at risk?

Of course it would have been, what makes you think it wouldnt ?
If you racially abused someone in your job would your job not be in danger?

[EC Unique]

Groundsmen are less important than refs are they, or how are they different?

Would the groundsman's career have been at risk?

Of course it would have been, what makes you think it wouldnt ?
If you racially abused someone in your job would your job not be in danger?

Note that I said career...Not job.

[Jonah]

So you reckon if he was convicted of racist abuse and had it on his record for life you don't think his career you have been affected one bit?
You don't think everyone would have known his name because of the high profile player who was involved and it would have  been all over the media.
Do you really think his life and career wouldnt have been affected???

[AQMP]

Groundsmen are less important than refs are they, or how are they different?

Would the groundsman's career have been at risk?

Of course it would have been, what makes you think it wouldnt ?
If you racially abused someone in your job would your job not be in danger?

Note that I said career...Not job.

Oh I dunno, Clattenburg could go back to his previous career of running electrical contractors...into the ground

If you read Norf's piece on the main Chelsea board, it seems under the Equality Act 2010 Chelsea may have been obliged to report this incident since an employee claimed to have been racially abused at work (whether CFC think he was or not)

[rodney trotter]

Pogba couldn't get out of United quick enough,not even Slur Al could stop him.
He is at a good club now fair play to him for sticking to his guns.

Pogba couldn't get a start in Uniteds midfield last year, and considering how decimated it was then it actually doesn't say much about his ability.

Well he said he wanted out in Januray so that might have had a say ,on his lack of game time for the rest of the season. He is still 19 so wasn't going to be playing every week - not yet anyways.

[NAG1]

He was obviously going to be a player otherwise he wouldnt have made it so far through the academy. Thing is his development at 19 would be more suited to playing in Italy anyway, where he can get more game time, more rest between games and less physical contact than the EPL.

United fans should look at it more in the sense that it shows that the scouting system is working as is the Academy system. The club are not going to be able to hang on to every young prospect in these times of the Bosman ruling, so just have to learn to accept it. Would be more difficult to swallow if he had joined a rival team in the EPL, good luck to him otherwise.

[rodney trotter]

He was obviously going to be a player otherwise he wouldnt have made it so far through the academy. Thing is his development at 19 would be more suited to playing in Italy anyway, where he can get more game time, more rest between games and less physical contact than the EPL.

United fans should look at it more in the sense that it shows that the scouting system is working as is the Academy system. The club are not going to be able to hang on to every young prospect in these times of the Bosman ruling, so just have to learn to accept it. Would be more difficult to swallow if he had joined a rival team in the EPL, good luck to him otherwise.
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I'd agree with all that.

[ballinaman]

Sneak peak of the Alex Ferguson statue to be unveiled at Old Trafford before QPR home game on Nov 24th. About time too.

[EC Unique]

Fergie time!

[ballinaman]

I'm heading over for the QPR match. Must set the watch to Fergie time when I land on the Saturday morning!

[magpie seanie]

Speaking of "Fergie time" did anyone notice the outcry about goals being scored in United's last 2 fixtures after the alloted added time was up? No, me neither!

[Norf Tyrone]

Speaking of "Fergie time" did anyone notice the outcry about goals being scored in United's last 2 fixtures after the alloted added time was up? No, me neither!

In the Chelsea League Cup game? I think you're wrong. IIRC the ref signalled minimum 3 minutes of injury time and Chelsea's penalty was awarded before the 3 minutes was up (Never mind the minimum of 3). As you know the ref is meant to stop his watch at the award of a penalty- one of only a few times where the ref is meant to actually stop his watch I believe.

The penalty was scored on 93.55. So it was inside the time as per the 'minimum of 3 minutes', and up to 4 minutes AND also as per the ref stopping his watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPPIGiX9Ro

[magpie seanie]

NT - You're at it again! I said "scored". For the record the pen was awarded a handful of seconds after the 3 minutes and I wasn't complaining. These things happen and usually even themselves out over a season and I understand the rules regarding time. I was merely making the point that there would/will be a massive outcry if United scored goals in a similar fashion. I'm sure you'll be on hand to explain things if United score a very late goal some time soon.

Laoislad - so its only goals scored after the expiration of added time that effect the result (by United) that are wrong? Good, glad we cleared that up.

[EC Unique]

Nice.