New Club(s) in Urban Areas

[marty34]

Not too often that I start a thread and probably one, due to the context, that won't last too long.


Just added a few messages in the Antrim forum re: St. Bridget's winning the Antrim Senior Football Championship today. For the first time also. Bit of a discussion on their location and where their catchment area is etc.


People talk about the rural depopulation of Ireland and clubs merging with other clubs at underage to survive. And that is true.


But what about new clubs and relatively new clubs? Probably moreso in urban areas.


I know there is moves on starting a new club in Naas, Kildare. Last year there was a new club formed on East Meath - around Bettystown. I remember reading an article that Jarlath Burns was in it. These two areas are huge in population and probably deserve a new club . Leakage at these big clubs must be massive and new clubs should soak some of that leakage up.


Are there any more new clubs being formed anywhere else in Ireland?

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Not too often that I start a thread and probably one, due to the context, that won't last too long.


Just added a few messages in the Antrim forum re: St. Bridget's winning the Antrim Senior Football Championship today. For the first time also. Bit of a discussion on their location and where their catchment area is etc.


People talk about the rural depopulation of Ireland and clubs merging with other clubs at underage to survive. And that is true.


But what about new clubs and relatively new clubs? Probably moreso in urban areas.


I know there is moves on starting a new club in Naas, Kildare. Last year there was a new club formed on East Meath - around Bettystown. I remember reading an article that Jarlath Burns was in it. These two areas are huge in population and probably deserve a new club . Leakage at these big clubs must be massive and new clubs should soak some of that leakage up.


Are there any more new clubs being formed anywhere else in Ireland?

Is Belfast somewhere that could do with more clubs or is it a bit like Derry where football isn't generally as popular as other sports within the nationalist population.

[imtommygunn]

Demographics have changed significantly over the last so many years. East Belfast Gaa and st brigid's relatively new - east Belfast very new really. Their chairman said there was maybe a need for another club in that area but they ned to establish one first. The west would have a lot. It's just different areas that don't due to being loyalist and now changing demographics. It takes someone to take it on.

[marty34]

I'm of the opinion that there should be more clubs:


1. In the big Dublin superclub areas. Some of their underage teams have 6 teams at one age group. Yet they must lose some players as they go up through the age groups.


2. There should be another one or two hurling clubs in Kilkenny City. Even starting out as junior clubs. Currently there's the big three of - Dicksboro, James Stephens (The Village) and OLG, right beside Nowlan Park.

[gallsman]

Kilkenny is a small enough city. You also have Danesfort, Clara, Bennetsbridge and Conahy Shamrocks at most a ten minute drive from Nowlan Park. Possibly one or two others as well

[marty34]

Kilkenny is a small enough city. You also have Danesfort, Clara, Bennetsbridge and Conahy Shamrocks at most a ten minute drive from Nowlan Park. Possibly one or two others as well

There'll be 2 clubs in Naas shortly. The population of the two would be similar.  So I think a mainly traditional hurling town like Kilkenny could do with another one club at least. Just my opinion.


The other clubs you mention are outside the city and are strong well established hurling clubs.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Naas has the same population as Kilkenny city according to Google.

Alot of these commuter towns have bigger populations than our smaller cities like Kilkenny sligo armagh etc.

Drogheda Navan Naas Dundalk Bray spring to mind.

[gallsman]

Kilkenny is a small enough city. You also have Danesfort, Clara, Bennetsbridge and Conahy Shamrocks at most a ten minute drive from Nowlan Park. Possibly one or two others as well

There'll be 2 clubs in Naas shortly. The population of the two would be similar.  So I think a mainly traditional hurling town like Kilkenny could do with another one club at least. Just my opinion.


The other clubs you mention are outside the city and are strong well established hurling clubs.

What's your point? If your arguement is that they're the same size and Naas will shortly have two clubs, and Kilkenny already has three within the city proper...? To go with all the clubs that surround it?

[Armagh18]

I'm of the opinion that there should be more clubs:


1. In the big Dublin superclub areas. Some of their underage teams have 6 teams at one age group. Yet they must lose some players as they go up through the age groups.


2. There should be another one or two hurling clubs in Kilkenny City. Even starting out as junior clubs. Currently there's the big three of - Dicksboro, James Stephens (The Village) and OLG, right beside Nowlan Park.

Would imagine land is at a premium in Dublin? (I know it is everywhere but especially Dublin)

[oakleaflad]

Culmore formed in Derry City in 2017.

Brings number of GAA clubs in city to 6. One hurling only club (Na Magha) may have some crossover with some of the football clubs.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Culmore formed in Derry City in 2017.

Brings number of GAA clubs in city to 6. One hurling only club (Na Magha) may have some crossover with some of the football clubs.

When do Culmore plan to transition into a senior side?

[oakleaflad]

Culmore formed in Derry City in 2017.

Brings number of GAA clubs in city to 6. One hurling only club (Na Magha) may have some crossover with some of the football clubs.

When do Culmore plan to transition into a senior side?

Not sure. Their oldest underage side are up at u16 now so my guess would be once they transition to adult level.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Culmore formed in Derry City in 2017.

Brings number of GAA clubs in city to 6. One hurling only club (Na Magha) may have some crossover with some of the football clubs.

When do Culmore plan to transition into a senior side?

Not sure. Their oldest underage side are up at u16 now so my guess would be once they transition to adult level.

Probably the right way to do it.

Are they pulling up much trees at underage?

[GTP]

Are they pulling up much trees at underage?

Not to be dismissive of the efforts but the under 16 team lost every game in league and championship, Division 3 and C championship. Though they do seem to have fielded for all the games so at least it is positive that they have numbers.

[oakleaflad]

Culmore formed in Derry City in 2017.

Brings number of GAA clubs in city to 6. One hurling only club (Na Magha) may have some crossover with some of the football clubs.

When do Culmore plan to transition into a senior side?

Not sure. Their oldest underage side are up at u16 now so my guess would be once they transition to adult level.

Probably the right way to do it.

Are they pulling up much trees at underage?

As mentioned, in general they aren't, no. In fairness they did win the U14 C championship last year for the clubs first ever title but would be competing at C grade in general. Have to start somewhere I suppose. Will be easier for them when they secure their own club grounds.