journalists trying to influence/lobby rule makers and disciplinary procedures.

[ONeill]

Wouldn't the most sensible thing to do have been announce a major rethink or emergency congress or whatever the hell they want to call it in the Autumn on sanctions for simulation. Not some ridiculous punishment with 3 games left.

You would have to gather that those behind this 8-week shite are incredibly stupid.

[Bingo]

Wouldn't the most sensible thing to do have been announce a major rethink or emergency congress or whatever the hell they want to call it in the Autumn on sanctions for simulation. Not some ridiculous punishment with 3 games left.

You would have to gather that those behind this 8-week shite are incredibly stupid.

In future, they should schedule one the week after Monaghan play Tyrone in Croker as it generally needs some rule change afterwards. A bit of planning would help the lads schedule themselves down for a good old rule making session.

[AZOffaly]

Wouldn't the most sensible thing to do have been announce a major rethink or emergency congress or whatever the hell they want to call it in the Autumn on sanctions for simulation. Not some ridiculous punishment with 3 games left.

You would have to gather that those behind this 8-week shite are incredibly stupid.

In future, they should schedule one the week after Monaghan play Tyrone in Croker as it generally needs some rule change afterwards. A bit of planning would help the lads schedule themselves down for a good old rule making session.

GAAAAAAARRRGHHH!!! BCBSCT.

[Gabriel_Hurl]

 

[muppet]

F*ck I'd have carded the Cork man for intent, regardless of what Connelly did.

[AZOffaly]

Was thinking the same

[Gabriel_Hurl]

I thought the same

[AhNowRef]

Couldn't be bothered to read the whole thread but this 8 week ban is probably very harsh considering, as other people have pointed out, that there was no action against Michael Shields in the Munster Final.

HOWEVER, I think most GAA supporters would agree that this diving/ simulation/ trying to get people sent off is a blight on the game.
A strong message needs sent out to try and eradicate it so its probably something that needs to happen.

It is unfortunate for Tyrone that its their man that has been highlighted.
It was highlighted about Michael Shields weeks ago but no action was taken.
Had an 8 week ban been handed out then to Shields, McCann may not have considered diving for fear of retribution and this hoohaa surrounding it wouldn't be taking place.

Some county was going to suffer the consequences of this eventually as the GAA weren't going to let this happen indefinitely.
Tyrone are the unfortunate ones.

But why should Shields have got an 8 week ban for a yellow card offence?

Fair point.
Should it be more than a yellow card offence for there to be an effective way of removing these actions from our game?

But Cavanaugh took a dive when he got a tip in the belly from McManus. Is that worthy of a ban too? There was more contact than McCann got, but no less of a dive. Where does the line get drawn?
But to be honest, that's all irrelevant. It does not matter what any individual thinks should be the punishment, all that matters is that the rulebook states that feigning injury is a yellow card offence.

I've no problem with McCann being embarrassed, and every single diver / injury feigner on their team having their manliness being called into question - but banning any of them for it is just ridiculous!

This case really winds me up - Cavanaugh is well to the side from where McManus is running - Mc Manus moves towards him with his elbow jutting out and bangs into him. Cavanaugh falls down. He didn't instigate the incident and somehow it's his fault for falling down. If McManus had breezed past him, never touching him and Cavanaugh had fallen down then yes accuse him of cheating but this is ridiculous.

Cavanagh feigned injury (cheating)at least twice in the match resulting in no football being played (you know, the reason everyone tunes in) for about 4/5 mins...you're trying to defend the indefensible, the man is a serial offender

Can you please let us know when these 2 incidents happened .. i.e. what was the game time ?

ah for crying out loud, watch the game back if you have to, or don't believe me, its up to yourself

So you cant tell me the times then ? ...... Ive watched the game twice and can see no dives from C Cavanagh .. thats why I ask..

You surely should be able to back up your claims?

[GJL]

Couldn't be bothered to read the whole thread but this 8 week ban is probably very harsh considering, as other people have pointed out, that there was no action against Michael Shields in the Munster Final.

HOWEVER, I think most GAA supporters would agree that this diving/ simulation/ trying to get people sent off is a blight on the game.
A strong message needs sent out to try and eradicate it so its probably something that needs to happen.

It is unfortunate for Tyrone that its their man that has been highlighted.
It was highlighted about Michael Shields weeks ago but no action was taken.
Had an 8 week ban been handed out then to Shields, McCann may not have considered diving for fear of retribution and this hoohaa surrounding it wouldn't be taking place.

Some county was going to suffer the consequences of this eventually as the GAA weren't going to let this happen indefinitely.
Tyrone are the unfortunate ones.

But why should Shields have got an 8 week ban for a yellow card offence?

Fair point.
Should it be more than a yellow card offence for there to be an effective way of removing these actions from our game?

But Cavanaugh took a dive when he got a tip in the belly from McManus. Is that worthy of a ban too? There was more contact than McCann got, but no less of a dive. Where does the line get drawn?
But to be honest, that's all irrelevant. It does not matter what any individual thinks should be the punishment, all that matters is that the rulebook states that feigning injury is a yellow card offence.

I've no problem with McCann being embarrassed, and every single diver / injury feigner on their team having their manliness being called into question - but banning any of them for it is just ridiculous!

This case really winds me up - Cavanaugh is well to the side from where McManus is running - Mc Manus moves towards him with his elbow jutting out and bangs into him. Cavanaugh falls down. He didn't instigate the incident and somehow it's his fault for falling down. If McManus had breezed past him, never touching him and Cavanaugh had fallen down then yes accuse him of cheating but this is ridiculous.

Cavanagh feigned injury (cheating)at least twice in the match resulting in no football being played (you know, the reason everyone tunes in) for about 4/5 mins...you're trying to defend the indefensible, the man is a serial offender

Can you please let us know when these 2 incidents happened .. i.e. what was the game time ?

ah for crying out loud, watch the game back if you have to, or don't believe me, its up to yourself

So you cant tell me the times then ? ...... Ive watched the game twice and can see no dives from C Cavanagh .. thats why I ask..

You surely should be able to back up your claims?

I asked the same, apparently he can't.

[doodaa]

Wouldn't the most sensible thing to do have been announce a major rethink or emergency congress or whatever the hell they want to call it in the Autumn on sanctions for simulation. Not some ridiculous punishment with 3 games left.

You would have to gather that those behind this 8-week shite are incredibly stupid.

Cant argue with that ^^^^^
The 8 week ban will be lifted by the end of next week id imagine, if not before!

[general_lee]

What a stupid knee jerk reaction. Not the way forward.

Would like to see the GAA operate a similar set up to the rugby TMO with a separate referee sat up in the stands who can watch a replay immediately after an incident and either make a call that the incident should be watched again before being dealt with OR be available for the pitch ref to consult if he did not see what happened.

For the sake of 30-60 seconds we could eliminate many subsequent investigations, punishments, appeals and knee jerk reactions like McCann's 8 week ban.

[omagh_gael]

What a stupid knee jerk reaction. Not the way forward.

Would like to see the GAA operate a similar set up to the rugby TMO with a separate referee sat up in the stands who can watch a replay immediately after an incident and either make a call that the incident should be watched again before being dealt with OR be available for the pitch ref to consult if he did not see what happened.

For the sake of 30-60 seconds we could eliminate many subsequent investigations, punishments, appeals and knee jerk reactions like McCann's 8 week ban.

That's a good sensible idea but would be very difficult to implement in grounds around the country.

[JoG2]

Couldn't be bothered to read the whole thread but this 8 week ban is probably very harsh considering, as other people have pointed out, that there was no action against Michael Shields in the Munster Final.

HOWEVER, I think most GAA supporters would agree that this diving/ simulation/ trying to get people sent off is a blight on the game.
A strong message needs sent out to try and eradicate it so its probably something that needs to happen.

It is unfortunate for Tyrone that its their man that has been highlighted.
It was highlighted about Michael Shields weeks ago but no action was taken.
Had an 8 week ban been handed out then to Shields, McCann may not have considered diving for fear of retribution and this hoohaa surrounding it wouldn't be taking place.

Some county was going to suffer the consequences of this eventually as the GAA weren't going to let this happen indefinitely.
Tyrone are the unfortunate ones.

But why should Shields have got an 8 week ban for a yellow card offence?

Fair point.
Should it be more than a yellow card offence for there to be an effective way of removing these actions from our game?

But Cavanaugh took a dive when he got a tip in the belly from McManus. Is that worthy of a ban too? There was more contact than McCann got, but no less of a dive. Where does the line get drawn?
But to be honest, that's all irrelevant. It does not matter what any individual thinks should be the punishment, all that matters is that the rulebook states that feigning injury is a yellow card offence.

I've no problem with McCann being embarrassed, and every single diver / injury feigner on their team having their manliness being called into question - but banning any of them for it is just ridiculous!

This case really winds me up - Cavanaugh is well to the side from where McManus is running - Mc Manus moves towards him with his elbow jutting out and bangs into him. Cavanaugh falls down. He didn't instigate the incident and somehow it's his fault for falling down. If McManus had breezed past him, never touching him and Cavanaugh had fallen down then yes accuse him of cheating but this is ridiculous.

Cavanagh feigned injury (cheating)at least twice in the match resulting in no football being played (you know, the reason everyone tunes in) for about 4/5 mins...you're trying to defend the indefensible, the man is a serial offender

Can you please let us know when these 2 incidents happened .. i.e. what was the game time ?

ah for crying out loud, watch the game back if you have to, or don't believe me, its up to yourself

So you cant tell me the times then ? ...... Ive watched the game twice and can see no dives from C Cavanagh .. thats why I ask..

You surely should be able to back up your claims?

I asked the same, apparently he can't.

a: you guys are saying he didn't feign injury - hogwash
b: asking me to provide or upload these specific video clips - how do i do this and I will try my very best?

to quote Brolly (you know the guy you boys are now listening to?):

"The Invisible Man resumed his vendetta on the Cavanagh brothers"

[AhNowRef]

Couldn't be bothered to read the whole thread but this 8 week ban is probably very harsh considering, as other people have pointed out, that there was no action against Michael Shields in the Munster Final.

HOWEVER, I think most GAA supporters would agree that this diving/ simulation/ trying to get people sent off is a blight on the game.
A strong message needs sent out to try and eradicate it so its probably something that needs to happen.

It is unfortunate for Tyrone that its their man that has been highlighted.
It was highlighted about Michael Shields weeks ago but no action was taken.
Had an 8 week ban been handed out then to Shields, McCann may not have considered diving for fear of retribution and this hoohaa surrounding it wouldn't be taking place.

Some county was going to suffer the consequences of this eventually as the GAA weren't going to let this happen indefinitely.
Tyrone are the unfortunate ones.

But why should Shields have got an 8 week ban for a yellow card offence?

Fair point.
Should it be more than a yellow card offence for there to be an effective way of removing these actions from our game?

But Cavanaugh took a dive when he got a tip in the belly from McManus. Is that worthy of a ban too? There was more contact than McCann got, but no less of a dive. Where does the line get drawn?
But to be honest, that's all irrelevant. It does not matter what any individual thinks should be the punishment, all that matters is that the rulebook states that feigning injury is a yellow card offence.

I've no problem with McCann being embarrassed, and every single diver / injury feigner on their team having their manliness being called into question - but banning any of them for it is just ridiculous!

This case really winds me up - Cavanaugh is well to the side from where McManus is running - Mc Manus moves towards him with his elbow jutting out and bangs into him. Cavanaugh falls down. He didn't instigate the incident and somehow it's his fault for falling down. If McManus had breezed past him, never touching him and Cavanaugh had fallen down then yes accuse him of cheating but this is ridiculous.

Cavanagh feigned injury (cheating)at least twice in the match resulting in no football being played (you know, the reason everyone tunes in) for about 4/5 mins...you're trying to defend the indefensible, the man is a serial offender

Can you please let us know when these 2 incidents happened .. i.e. what was the game time ?

ah for crying out loud, watch the game back if you have to, or don't believe me, its up to yourself

So you cant tell me the times then ? ...... Ive watched the game twice and can see no dives from C Cavanagh .. thats why I ask..

You surely should be able to back up your claims?

I asked the same, apparently he can't.

Yeah, the sheep are following well from what they hear on TV or read in the press ...
That knob Brolly wrote that Sean Cavanagh lay down and wasted time on 53 mins and Colm did the same on 70 mins when they apparently "went down after minor contact" -  You have to laugh at all this - Sean was rabbit punched to the back of the head swiftly followed by a punch in the Jaw and Colm was badly taken out of it by Hughes .....
Dara O'Se on Sky said of Finlays incident with Sean Cavanagh .. "Ah sure der was notin in it" .. Conning the ref again .. well he's said that for every free Tyrone got in their last 3 matches ....     No, no witch hunt here !!

Hideous Stuff !

I wonder were these your examples JoG2 ? .... Baaaaaaaaa

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

And it doesn't bother you at all Hardy, that the GAA are setting themselves up perfectly as a laughing stock with seat of the pants decisions such as these? That's sure to instil implicit respect for the rules, not to mention relieving referees of the absolute necessity of enforcing the rules as they are; pandemonium here we come. 

Edit Oh, and you can take your embarrassment and shove it as far up your Meath hole as you can manage.

Sorry, Fear, but I'll ignore your insults anyway (not like you - you must be feeling the pressure of defending the indefensible) and I won't be paying much attention to your attempts at debate if you still stand by this:
#Under5sKnowTheBleedingHandOnHeadRuleYouNumptyHughes

You can feel free, in the light of cool reflection, to withdraw that beyond-Mickey-Hartish mealy-mouthedness in blaming the victim for the crime.

I'll take that as a resounding 'No', so.

Nope, nothing that was expressed in the immediate aftermath of that 'battle' shall be retracted, absolutely not (well not exactly nothing, but not that anyway), and just because Mc Cann has no one to blame but himself does not mean that there were no (avoidable) contributory factors.

Edit you needn't shove that embarrassment up your hole, I wasn't being serious.