Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

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Jerome

Makes no odds, everyone is in same boat so start it this weekend or first weekend in May it is a level playing field.

O’neill Army

Quote from: Mikhailov on April 12, 2026, 12:36:56 AM
Quote from: snowy2hunt on April 10, 2026, 09:20:15 AMSenior club fixtures are out

Round 1

Eglish v Donaghmore
Edendork v Loughmacrory
Trillick v Errigal Ciaran
Coalisland v Ardboe
Dungannon v Omagh
Galbally v An Charraig Mhór
Moortown v Clonoe
An Droim Mór v Killycloghe

Round 2

Omagh v An Droim Mór
An Charraig Mhór v Dungannon
Moortown v Galbally
Donaghmore v Killyclogher
Loughmacrory v Clonoe
Ardboe v Edendork
Errigal v Coalisland
Trillick v Eglish

Round 3
Edendork v Errigal Ciaran
Loughmacrory v Trillick
Clonoe v Eglish
Killyclogher v Ardboe
An Droim Mór v Coalisland
Donaghmore v Dungannon
An Charraig Mhór v Moortown
Galbally v Omagh


Round 4
Errigal Ciaran v Loughmacrory
Trillick v Donaghmore
Omagh v Killyclogher
Ardboe v An Droim Mór
Eglish v Galbally
Coalisland v Clonoe
Dungannon v Moortown
Edendork v An Charraig Mhór

Round 5

Errigal Ciaran v Eglish
Clonoe v Dungannon
Moortown v Edendork
Loughmacrory v An Droim Mór
Omagh v Ardboe
An Charraig Mhór v Trillick
Galbally v Donaghmore
Killyclogher v Coalisland




Are these fixtures confirmed? Are they all Starred  fixtures....?

Few senior clubs with county men have got the raw end of the deal if these fixtures are confirmed....

Fianna with 4 county men play Clonoe & Ardboe who have none plus Killyclogher who have 1 - hardly fair

Edendork (4 men) play Ardboe & Moortown with no men plus Carmen with 1 man - again very unfair

Eglish (3 men) play Galbally & Clonoe who both have none - not fair either

Donaghmore (4 men) play Galbally with none, Clarkes with 1 and Killyclogher with 1 - unfair again

Lough (4 men) play Clonoe with none and Dromore with 1 - again unfair

Surely there is a cluster of teams with 3+ county men - is the obvious thing not to have them all play each other for the starred game system.

There must be a reasonable explanation for these games above but I simply can't see how it is fair.

Teams getting punished for having county men is not fair

Clubs that have more county players than other clubs have always had that disadvantage which is why the county board have brought in the new rule this season that a win in a starred game is worth 2 points but a win in a non starred game is worth 3 points.

Surely that seems fair?

Goals_Will_Come

Quote from: O'neill Army on April 17, 2026, 07:39:03 AM
Quote from: Mikhailov on April 12, 2026, 12:36:56 AM
Quote from: snowy2hunt on April 10, 2026, 09:20:15 AMSenior club fixtures are out

Round 1

Eglish v Donaghmore
Edendork v Loughmacrory
Trillick v Errigal Ciaran
Coalisland v Ardboe
Dungannon v Omagh
Galbally v An Charraig Mhór
Moortown v Clonoe
An Droim Mór v Killycloghe

Round 2

Omagh v An Droim Mór
An Charraig Mhór v Dungannon
Moortown v Galbally
Donaghmore v Killyclogher
Loughmacrory v Clonoe
Ardboe v Edendork
Errigal v Coalisland
Trillick v Eglish

Round 3
Edendork v Errigal Ciaran
Loughmacrory v Trillick
Clonoe v Eglish
Killyclogher v Ardboe
An Droim Mór v Coalisland
Donaghmore v Dungannon
An Charraig Mhór v Moortown
Galbally v Omagh


Round 4
Errigal Ciaran v Loughmacrory
Trillick v Donaghmore
Omagh v Killyclogher
Ardboe v An Droim Mór
Eglish v Galbally
Coalisland v Clonoe
Dungannon v Moortown
Edendork v An Charraig Mhór

Round 5

Errigal Ciaran v Eglish
Clonoe v Dungannon
Moortown v Edendork
Loughmacrory v An Droim Mór
Omagh v Ardboe
An Charraig Mhór v Trillick
Galbally v Donaghmore
Killyclogher v Coalisland




Are these fixtures confirmed? Are they all Starred  fixtures....?

Few senior clubs with county men have got the raw end of the deal if these fixtures are confirmed....

Fianna with 4 county men play Clonoe & Ardboe who have none plus Killyclogher who have 1 - hardly fair

Edendork (4 men) play Ardboe & Moortown with no men plus Carmen with 1 man - again very unfair

Eglish (3 men) play Galbally & Clonoe who both have none - not fair either

Donaghmore (4 men) play Galbally with none, Clarkes with 1 and Killyclogher with 1 - unfair again

Lough (4 men) play Clonoe with none and Dromore with 1 - again unfair

Surely there is a cluster of teams with 3+ county men - is the obvious thing not to have them all play each other for the starred game system.

There must be a reasonable explanation for these games above but I simply can't see how it is fair.

Teams getting punished for having county men is not fair

Clubs that have more county players than other clubs have always had that disadvantage which is why the county board have brought in the new rule this season that a win in a starred game is worth 2 points but a win in a non starred game is worth 3 points.

Surely that seems fair?
The problem with that rule change is the effect it is has on when you play teams.
For example in Senior Clonoe play Moortown for 2 points but Coalisland play them later for 3 points. That point could make the difference in the relegation picture come the end of the season.

Grace Murphy


square_ball

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on April 17, 2026, 12:32:51 PM
Quote from: O'neill Army on April 17, 2026, 07:39:03 AM
Quote from: Mikhailov on April 12, 2026, 12:36:56 AMAre these fixtures confirmed? Are they all Starred  fixtures....?

Few senior clubs with county men have got the raw end of the deal if these fixtures are confirmed....

Fianna with 4 county men play Clonoe & Ardboe who have none plus Killyclogher who have 1 - hardly fair

Edendork (4 men) play Ardboe & Moortown with no men plus Carmen with 1 man - again very unfair

Eglish (3 men) play Galbally & Clonoe who both have none - not fair either

Donaghmore (4 men) play Galbally with none, Clarkes with 1 and Killyclogher with 1 - unfair again

Lough (4 men) play Clonoe with none and Dromore with 1 - again unfair

Surely there is a cluster of teams with 3+ county men - is the obvious thing not to have them all play each other for the starred game system.

There must be a reasonable explanation for these games above but I simply can't see how it is fair.

Teams getting punished for having county men is not fair

Clubs that have more county players than other clubs have always had that disadvantage which is why the county board have brought in the new rule this season that a win in a starred game is worth 2 points but a win in a non starred game is worth 3 points.

Surely that seems fair?
The problem with that rule change is the effect it is has on when you play teams.
For example in Senior Clonoe play Moortown for 2 points but Coalisland play them later for 3 points. That point could make the difference in the relegation picture come the end of the season.

Only way that 2/3 point system works really is if everyone plays each other home and away.

Mikhailov

Quote from: O'neill Army on April 17, 2026, 07:39:03 AM
Quote from: Mikhailov on April 12, 2026, 12:36:56 AM
Quote from: snowy2hunt on April 10, 2026, 09:20:15 AMSenior club fixtures are out

Round 1

Eglish v Donaghmore
Edendork v Loughmacrory
Trillick v Errigal Ciaran
Coalisland v Ardboe
Dungannon v Omagh
Galbally v An Charraig Mhór
Moortown v Clonoe
An Droim Mór v Killycloghe

Round 2

Omagh v An Droim Mór
An Charraig Mhór v Dungannon
Moortown v Galbally
Donaghmore v Killyclogher
Loughmacrory v Clonoe
Ardboe v Edendork
Errigal v Coalisland
Trillick v Eglish

Round 3
Edendork v Errigal Ciaran
Loughmacrory v Trillick
Clonoe v Eglish
Killyclogher v Ardboe
An Droim Mór v Coalisland
Donaghmore v Dungannon
An Charraig Mhór v Moortown
Galbally v Omagh


Round 4
Errigal Ciaran v Loughmacrory
Trillick v Donaghmore
Omagh v Killyclogher
Ardboe v An Droim Mór
Eglish v Galbally
Coalisland v Clonoe
Dungannon v Moortown
Edendork v An Charraig Mhór

Round 5

Errigal Ciaran v Eglish
Clonoe v Dungannon
Moortown v Edendork
Loughmacrory v An Droim Mór
Omagh v Ardboe
An Charraig Mhór v Trillick
Galbally v Donaghmore
Killyclogher v Coalisland




Are these fixtures confirmed? Are they all Starred  fixtures....?

Few senior clubs with county men have got the raw end of the deal if these fixtures are confirmed....

Fianna with 4 county men play Clonoe & Ardboe who have none plus Killyclogher who have 1 - hardly fair

Edendork (4 men) play Ardboe & Moortown with no men plus Carmen with 1 man - again very unfair

Eglish (3 men) play Galbally & Clonoe who both have none - not fair either

Donaghmore (4 men) play Galbally with none, Clarkes with 1 and Killyclogher with 1 - unfair again

Lough (4 men) play Clonoe with none and Dromore with 1 - again unfair

Surely there is a cluster of teams with 3+ county men - is the obvious thing not to have them all play each other for the starred game system.

There must be a reasonable explanation for these games above but I simply can't see how it is fair.

Teams getting punished for having county men is not fair

Clubs that have more county players than other clubs have always had that disadvantage which is why the county board have brought in the new rule this season that a win in a starred game is worth 2 points but a win in a non starred game is worth 3 points.

Surely that seems fair?

Clubs with county players should be playing other clubs with county players and if there is a 1 or 2 disadvantage then that can't be avoided.

But to ask clubs with 3/4/5 county men to play clubs with none it is just not fair - plain and simple.

There are quite a few clubs in Tyrone with 3+ county players. Surely the obvious thing to do is to have them play each other in the starred series and therefore any possible disadvantages are at a minimum.

2ndstringsub

Quote from: square_ball on April 19, 2026, 12:20:31 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on April 17, 2026, 12:32:51 PM
Quote from: O'neill Army on April 17, 2026, 07:39:03 AM
Quote from: Mikhailov on April 12, 2026, 12:36:56 AMAre these fixtures confirmed? Are they all Starred  fixtures....?

Few senior clubs with county men have got the raw end of the deal if these fixtures are confirmed....

Fianna with 4 county men play Clonoe & Ardboe who have none plus Killyclogher who have 1 - hardly fair

Edendork (4 men) play Ardboe & Moortown with no men plus Carmen with 1 man - again very unfair

Eglish (3 men) play Galbally & Clonoe who both have none - not fair either

Donaghmore (4 men) play Galbally with none, Clarkes with 1 and Killyclogher with 1 - unfair again

Lough (4 men) play Clonoe with none and Dromore with 1 - again unfair

Surely there is a cluster of teams with 3+ county men - is the obvious thing not to have them all play each other for the starred game system.

There must be a reasonable explanation for these games above but I simply can't see how it is fair.

Teams getting punished for having county men is not fair

Clubs that have more county players than other clubs have always had that disadvantage which is why the county board have brought in the new rule this season that a win in a starred game is worth 2 points but a win in a non starred game is worth 3 points.

Surely that seems fair?
The problem with that rule change is the effect it is has on when you play teams.
For example in Senior Clonoe play Moortown for 2 points but Coalisland play them later for 3 points. That point could make the difference in the relegation picture come the end of the season.

Only way that 2/3 point system works really is if everyone plays each other home and away.

Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment but I would love to have home and away fixtures at the top grades. seemed to work for division 3 a & b last year.

lads end up training from before Christmas anyway so why not start the games in February and get 6 months of good football in instead of training for longer than most seasons last.

16 league games from 1st February till now would have you playing until the end of may which is when we aim to start our games anyway as long as the u20's are successful.

take a break between 1st set and 2nd set of games. 2-3 weeks.

reserve games would be as they are now in my opinion with only home/away fixtures played not both.(these would be played in the 2nd set of fixtures from may onwards)

 would help bleed players into senior teams around the county but still guarantees football for those lads that are past it or a bit green for senior football.


you can talk about player welfare etc and those are all valid points but ask any player in the country would they rather be dragged to donegal for a friendly or a run up some god forsaken mountain... any of them would take the game that means something.

Goals_Will_Come

Quote from: 2ndstringsub on April 21, 2026, 10:06:20 AM
Quote from: square_ball on April 19, 2026, 12:20:31 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on April 17, 2026, 12:32:51 PM
Quote from: O'neill Army on April 17, 2026, 07:39:03 AM
Quote from: Mikhailov on April 12, 2026, 12:36:56 AMAre these fixtures confirmed? Are they all Starred  fixtures....?

Few senior clubs with county men have got the raw end of the deal if these fixtures are confirmed....

Fianna with 4 county men play Clonoe & Ardboe who have none plus Killyclogher who have 1 - hardly fair

Edendork (4 men) play Ardboe & Moortown with no men plus Carmen with 1 man - again very unfair

Eglish (3 men) play Galbally & Clonoe who both have none - not fair either

Donaghmore (4 men) play Galbally with none, Clarkes with 1 and Killyclogher with 1 - unfair again

Lough (4 men) play Clonoe with none and Dromore with 1 - again unfair

Surely there is a cluster of teams with 3+ county men - is the obvious thing not to have them all play each other for the starred game system.

There must be a reasonable explanation for these games above but I simply can't see how it is fair.

Teams getting punished for having county men is not fair

Clubs that have more county players than other clubs have always had that disadvantage which is why the county board have brought in the new rule this season that a win in a starred game is worth 2 points but a win in a non starred game is worth 3 points.

Surely that seems fair?
The problem with that rule change is the effect it is has on when you play teams.
For example in Senior Clonoe play Moortown for 2 points but Coalisland play them later for 3 points. That point could make the difference in the relegation picture come the end of the season.

Only way that 2/3 point system works really is if everyone plays each other home and away.

Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment but I would love to have home and away fixtures at the top grades. seemed to work for division 3 a & b last year.

lads end up training from before Christmas anyway so why not start the games in February and get 6 months of good football in instead of training for longer than most seasons last.

16 league games from 1st February till now would have you playing until the end of may which is when we aim to start our games anyway as long as the u20's are successful.

take a break between 1st set and 2nd set of games. 2-3 weeks.

reserve games would be as they are now in my opinion with only home/away fixtures played not both.(these would be played in the 2nd set of fixtures from may onwards)

 would help bleed players into senior teams around the county but still guarantees football for those lads that are past it or a bit green for senior football.


you can talk about player welfare etc and those are all valid points but ask any player in the country would they rather be dragged to donegal for a friendly or a run up some god forsaken mountain... any of them would take the game that means something.
There is the potential for that but overall grade size would need reduced to 12 or split to two sections of 8 teams. 30 league game is not sustainable and pitches don't allow for a start before April.

tyroneStatto

#53078
probably only work if restructured to 4 divisions. there's 51 teams now with Cookstown 3rd's so maybe could have:

1 - 13 teams
2 - 13 teams
3 - 13 teams
3A - 12 teams

It's pretty much the league structure that was in place from 1999 - 2007 with home and away games and with county men not available for the 1st half of the season. Only works though too if Tyrone are knocked out early enough.

Championship numbers would stay the same as is.

RedHand88

Was the whole point of the split championship not to minimise the impact of county players missing from their clubs? Or was it just to get the club championship done earlier?

RouskyRanger

Will the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?

Goals_Will_Come

Quote from: RouskyRanger on April 23, 2026, 01:27:28 PMWill the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?
If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Sean Og Patriots

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on April 23, 2026, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on April 23, 2026, 01:27:28 PMWill the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?
If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Pile of shite, since when did 19/20 year olds become a factor in the result of senior club games. Club games will run off when 20s finish one game a week for 6/7 weeks, then it will be 3 games a week, followed by 5/6 teams missing their best players for championship due to injury (caused in the matches 3/4 weeks from championship).
I have always depended on the kindness of strangers. All Ireland Club - 2030.

W.A.G. Lover

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on April 23, 2026, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: RouskyRanger on April 23, 2026, 01:27:28 PMWill the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?
If they don't win next Wednesday night the leagues start on Friday 8th May.
If they win it is postponed to 15th May, depending on how the All Ireland Semi Final goes.

Leagues started on the Sunday following the all-ireland u20 final last year. Less time for u-20 lads to recover, but it fits in another game to prevent the bottle neck in August for all club players.
So, if they lost next Wednesday 29th, leagues could start Sunday 4th May and another game then on Friday 8th May.

bogball88

Quote from: RouskyRanger on April 23, 2026, 01:27:28 PMWill the leagues be put back now that the 20s won again or anyone know start date?
Friday 8th May at earliest now (that's if beat in Ulster Final)
Friday 15th May (if beat in All Ireland Semi Final)*
Friday 22nd May (if reach All Ireland Final)

*Surprised they haven't invented a Quarter Final or a Preliminary Quarter Final