The Many Faces of US Politics...

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Trump on himself . . .

It is amazing how often I am right, only to be criticized by the media. Illegal immigration, take the oil, build the wall, Muslims, NATO!

Jesus wept!!

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Trump on himself . . .

It is amazing how often I am right, only to be criticized by the media. Illegal immigration, take the oil, build the wall, Muslims, NATO!

Jesus wept!!

I'd say he takes advice well.

As long as it is from himself.

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Obama speech on the 1916 Proclamation: http://www.joe.ie/news/pic-us-president-barack-obama-paid-great-tribute-1916-proclamation/536482

[seafoid]

Trump has no chance

[seafoid]

https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkGillar/status/712516084188975105

[stew]

Ah cmon foxy, everyone knows you're a Shinner. But please feel free now to disassociate yourself from them on the basis their liberal and socialist agenda is the opposite of yours?

But I reckon you'll continue to be the hystercial hypocrite!

He came out defending SF pretty quickly in this exchange:

I hope everyone gets out this weekend and shows support against these charges.

Let's stop this before it gets out of hand. We let them screw us over with the bailout and if we don't act now it will happen again.
The politicians need to be accountable for what they do and how much they plan to spend, but can't let this turn into another black hole the way it is being implemented.

No more.

This is like taking off the corner forward when you are 40 points down with a minute to go.

Too little, far, far too late.

Maybe it is too late this time but perhaps it's the wake up call the country needs to start questioning what their leaders are up to.
FF, FG, Labour need to be thrown in the bin.

Along with Sinn Féin.

Replacing Civil War politics with even earlier politics is hardly the way forward.

From my recollection SF aren't the political party that have led the people into the current mess or sold Ireland down the river.

Fine Gael, Fianna Fail and Labour are GUILTY of lining their own pockets and those of their pals.

If the people are beginning to see this then at least not all is in vain. For too long people have voted because of family allegiences or because the TD is from the locality etc. Hopefully they'll now see that it doesn't matter where your representative is from, only if they are making a difference for the greater good.
If not, get rid of them.

He has a point, if he was a shinner why would he not say so? Makes no sense.

Sinn Féin are not to blame for the ill's of the south, I have never voted for them but fox has a point, I hate the way liberals try and tell you what you are, if the man has not said he is a shinner then you need to take hineat his word,

[johnneycool]

Pilger would prefer Trump in the White House rather than Hilary, she must be a bad'un..

https://newmatilda.com/2016/03/23/john-pilger-why-hillary-clinton-is-more-dangerous-than-donald-trump/

[stew]

Pilger would prefer Trump in the White House rather than Hilary, she must be a bad'un..

https://newmatilda.com/2016/03/23/john-pilger-why-hillary-clinton-is-more-dangerous-than-donald-trump/

Oh she is a bad one all right, but Trump in the white would be a disaster of epic proportions.

I have no fight in me the day, I woke up to trump attacking the wife of his rival and was disgusted, minutes later my godmother died of cancer after four bouts with that vilest of diseases,  fight away boys, I am gone for a fees days, play nice.

[seafoid]

Trump or Hill is the clap or herpes

[J70]

What the hell is getting into the Clintons?

They seem to be losing the plot completely

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/22/rivals-seize-on-bill-clintons-remarks-about-obamas-last-eight-years/?_r=0

http://www.inquisitr.com/2907196/chelsea-clinton-says-hillary-clinton-wants-obamacare-for-illegal-aliens-video/

1. Come on - Clinton is clearly talking about GOP conduct and obstructionism (this one is even worse and more pathetic than the "you didn't build that" outrage of four years ago!).
2. Would Obamacare coverage for illegals NOT be better than the current situation where they go to casualty for any and all care and leave the state with the (expensive) tab? Given that conservatives are supposedly MOST worried about government costs?

You and I both know that, but will the low information voters know it?

Very similar to Romneys 47% comment. Everyone (who wanted to) knew what he meant but he didn't articulate it properly and it got twisted and turned

To me, the 47% thing was a case of Romney saying what he really thought, in what he thought was a safe place.

Similar to Obama's comment about working class whites voting against their economic interests because they "cling to their guns or religion".

So you give Bill the benefit of the doubt but not Mitt???

(Same way you're giving Harry Reid, Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer the benefit of the doubt over the Supreme Court nominees)

See thats the problem, everything your/my guy says is taken out of context, while anything the opposition says truly reveals their intent-LOL

Clinton was clearly talking about the GOP. There is no other reasonable interpretation for what he said.

You'll have to explain to me how Romney was misinterpreted. To me, he was saying what he clearly thought in a situation where he could be honest, that a certain segment of the population was out of reach for him because they viewed the Democrats as more favourable in terms of government benefits. If I'm wrong, please explain how.

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That's an entitlement. The government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. And I mean the president starts off with 48, 49... he starts off with a huge number. These are people who pay no income tax. Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn't connect. So he'll be out there talking about tax cuts for the rich. ... My job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. What I have to do is convince the 5–10% in the center that are independents, that are thoughtful, that look at voting one way or the other depending upon in some cases emotion, whether they like the guy or not

As for the supreme court, all you have for Reid, Biden, Schumer etc. is talk and threats, something politicians specialize in. NOT action. Biden, as committee chairman, gave the GOP nominees their due consideration i.e interviews, hearings, committee and then whole senate votes. The GOP are, so far, taking action. We'll see how it pans out.

Was he f**k! Its as clear as mud and all he had to was state he blamed the GOP and not Obama.

Keep making shit up as you go along and keep that liberal spin going, you are so far from reality it is beyond belief, Clinton and ohama despise each other, try have done since before the mouse was elected president, something o for with the truths about his wife and her foibles when they ran against each other eight year ago.

You're the one who is either full of shit or living in lala land stew. Hillary is running on continuing Obama's policies. What possible sense could it make for her husband to then go out and slam those same policies?

Now, if you don't believe we can all grow together again, if you don't believe we're ever going to grow again, if you believe it's more important to re-litigate the past, there may be many reasons that you don't want to support her.

But if you believe we can all rise together, if you believe we've finally come to the point where we can put the awful  legacy of the last eight years behind us and the seven years before that when we were  practicing trickle-down economics and no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the crash, then you should vote for her because she's the only person who basically had good ideas will tell you how she's going to pay for them, can be commander in chief and is a proven change maker with republicans and democrats and independents alike.

In the context of her campaign, and statements made immediately after the speech, the only reasonable interpretation of that is that he was talking about the GOP obstructionism. But go ahead and cling to your version if it makes you feel better. It certainly doesn't make any sense.

[J70]

2. Would Obamacare coverage for illegals NOT be better than the current situation where they go to casualty for any and all care and leave the state with the (expensive) tab?

Ask for a credit card up front. Works for hotels.

And when the illegal immigrant has no credit card?

Then don't go on holidays in the first place

Meanwhile, in the real world...

Making excuses again. No valid paperwork so shouldn't be there. Should be turfed out.

You're not going to give them medical care first before they enter the process of deportation?

It's that attitude towards people breaking the law which screws things up for the legal resident.
Using public resources to which they make no contribution - takes public money and hospital space from real citizens.

I'll just do what I want and let those suckers pay for it.

If only it were true that illegals pay no tax. http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/04/16/Study-Finds-Illegal-Immigrants-Pay-118B-Taxes

So again, are you proposing that these people be denied medical care when it's needed?

[J70]

Deportation of 11m would cost upwards of 250bn. I can't see it happening

250BN ?? For that money you could stick a bounty for folk capturing illegals and hire out some greyhound coaches to ferry them en masse over the border once the bus is full. Trump's wall then would keep them out.
Could do it for a lot less than 250bn and the good folk of America could profit from this new occupation. Everyone wins!

Bounty hunters to round up 11 million people and their families?

No possible downside or complications can be imagined in that program!

[J70]

Deportation of 11m would cost upwards of 250bn. I can't see it happening

Of course its not happening! Regardless of the cost. Can you imagine the logistical, bureaucratic and moral nightmare that would ensue!

[seafoid]

By 2040 whites will be a minority. It is fascinating that despite the genocide of the locals in the 1800 the wider local indian /mestizo population plus the ex slaves will be calling the shots.

[Gmac]

By 2040 whites will be a minority. It is fascinating that despite the genocide of the locals in the 1800 the wider local indian /mestizo population plus the ex slaves will be calling the shots.
[/quote. That should be a happy day for the self hating white liberals