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« Reply #11940 on: January 16, 2021, 07:32:39 PM »
Has any Government gone with "Angelo's way" or are they sticking with the WHO's way of dealing with the Pandemic?

To be honest, the WHO haven't covered themselves in glory here either.

At the start, air travel should have been far more restricted - they recommended otherwise.

Now, 12 months later - and with the new variants they are starting to consider restricting travel between countries. Its common sense that if people don't travel far then the thing doesn't spread far - or if it does - it has to do so through every link in the chain. Feck knows how many Ebola epidemics burned themselves out in a few villages in Africa down the centuries - all because no-one travelled far and carried the thing out.
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« Reply #11941 on: January 16, 2021, 07:35:51 PM »
60 deaths in the south today
Median age 85 would suggest care homes are the main source again
Absolutely criminal that they let that happen again
3 years above the life expectancy
Has to be carehomes

They will try and blame in on society as a whole again and the sheeple like Rossfan and dublin7 will lap it up.

The most vulnerable people to the virus are the elderly. The majority of people in nursing homes are elderly. So if one person gets it then it's likely to spread like wildfire.

It's disappointing that people would celebrate these figures as if to prove their point of view and some sort of sick vindication of their opinions.
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« Reply #11942 on: January 16, 2021, 07:47:12 PM »
There are people and then there's you know who  ::)
The only way you'd have kept nursing homes free of Covid would have been to allow no visitors and make all the staff live in.
Once the thing spread in the community it was going to get in and  with the demograph of aged frail patients ......
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« Reply #11943 on: January 16, 2021, 07:56:31 PM »
I think it is tough with how staff seem to work in those homes. Seems there would be staff doing it for extra money etc so I think staff go from hospital to there quite a bit. Incredibly hard to keep it out of them.

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« Reply #11944 on: January 16, 2021, 08:41:03 PM »
Sorry wasnít trying to downplay any death
Was just flagging up the median age
The big question is when the old and vulnerable are vaccinated what reason would we need to lockdown

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« Reply #11945 on: January 16, 2021, 08:50:47 PM »
Do you ever ask yourself who the WHO really are? The fact they have their HQ in Switzerland says a lot. I wouldnít trust everything they come out with.

Instead you will trust whatever Boris Johnson, Matt Hancock or some Joe Blogg conspiracy lad says on YouTube?


Think you lads are more likely to trust Johnson or Hancock.

I'd trust the local drunk before them.

Yet you're rowing in behind their decisions.
Going by your posts on here you are glued to conspiracy lads on YouTube.

What conspiracy theories have I promoted?

It's the lazy option for guys like you to label people who have a differing viewpoint to you as conspiracy theorists.

Funny that was the narrative of the British establishment and unionism when it came to collusion between loyalists paramilitaries and security forces.

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« Reply #11946 on: January 16, 2021, 09:55:53 PM »
The problems in Manaus is critical, no beds no oxygen, nurses are manually providing oxygen!!

70% infection rate during first wave, they were hoping to get herd immunity from that, which didnít work, itís getting worse in the second wave!

Do you have a source for that? I want to read more around it.


That is extremely concerning.

If the infection rate is worse now and they had 70% immunity first time around - it clearly indicates that the immunity built up from the first infection wave is of little use.

Which means its quite likely that variant will bypass any vaccine induced immunity too.
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« Reply #11947 on: January 16, 2021, 10:04:17 PM »
60 deaths in the south today
Median age 85 would suggest care homes are the main source again
Absolutely criminal that they let that happen again
3 years above the life expectancy
Has to be carehomes

They will try and blame in on society as a whole again and the sheeple like Rossfan and dublin7 will lap it up.

The most vulnerable people to the virus are the elderly. The majority of people in nursing homes are elderly. So if one person gets it then it's likely to spread like wildfire.

It's disappointing that people would celebrate these figures as if to prove their point of view and some sort of sick vindication of their opinions.

You seem to be celebrating the fact that big pharma profiteers out of making money that is killing the elderly off over in Norway.

The failure is not protecting the elderly, the outbreaks in hospital and care home settings is a failure of health service, it is a byproduct of governments under funding and underresourcing health care and that is where the responsibility lies.

But rather than blame those responsible you seek to laud them, your cheerleading of the absolutely disgusting practices of big pharma takes the biscuit though. I've seen your contradictions first hand when the vaccine kills the old you are in there defending it first hand, refusing to believe published evidence by medical authorities, citing that they died because of old age and poor health.

When the common denominator of Covid deaths is shown to be old age and poor health, you point blank refuse that those factors had anything to do with the deaths and it was Covid that killed them.

You are bound by your contradictions and your defence of big pharma is utterly, utterly disgusting.

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« Reply #11948 on: January 16, 2021, 10:21:19 PM »
The problems in Manaus is critical, no beds no oxygen, nurses are manually providing oxygen!!

70% infection rate during first wave, they were hoping to get herd immunity from that, which didnít work, itís getting worse in the second wave!

Do you have a source for that? I want to read more around it.


That is extremely concerning.

If the infection rate is worse now and they had 70% immunity first time around - it clearly indicates that the immunity built up from the first infection wave is of little use.

Which means its quite likely that variant will bypass any vaccine induced immunity too.

Was directly from the channel four news, as you can see from the time I posted
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« Reply #11949 on: January 16, 2021, 10:39:09 PM »
60 deaths in the south today
Median age 85 would suggest care homes are the main source again
Absolutely criminal that they let that happen again
3 years above the life expectancy
Has to be carehomes

They will try and blame in on society as a whole again and the sheeple like Rossfan and dublin7 will lap it up.

The most vulnerable people to the virus are the elderly. The majority of people in nursing homes are elderly. So if one person gets it then it's likely to spread like wildfire.

It's disappointing that people would celebrate these figures as if to prove their point of view and some sort of sick vindication of their opinions.

You seem to be celebrating the fact that big pharma profiteers out of making money that is killing the elderly off over in Norway.

The failure is not protecting the elderly, the outbreaks in hospital and care home settings is a failure of health service, it is a byproduct of governments under funding and underresourcing health care and that is where the responsibility lies.

But rather than blame those responsible you seek to laud them, your cheerleading of the absolutely disgusting practices of big pharma takes the biscuit though. I've seen your contradictions first hand when the vaccine kills the old you are in there defending it first hand, refusing to believe published evidence by medical authorities, citing that they died because of old age and poor health.

When the common denominator of Covid deaths is shown to be old age and poor health, you point blank refuse that those factors had anything to do with the deaths and it was Covid that killed them.

You are bound by your contradictions and your defence of big pharma is utterly, utterly disgusting.

As you like quoting people or stories (that you don't seem to read judging by your replies to these links) can you link a quote or a story were anybody said a Covid vaccine killed someone. Even one.

There are concerns over how effective the effective might be at protecting the elderly, but not one person has claimed the vaccine has killed anyone. 


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« Reply #11950 on: Today at 08:37:57 AM »
60 deaths in the south today
Median age 85 would suggest care homes are the main source again
Absolutely criminal that they let that happen again
3 years above the life expectancy
Has to be carehomes

They will try and blame in on society as a whole again and the sheeple like Rossfan and dublin7 will lap it up.

The most vulnerable people to the virus are the elderly. The majority of people in nursing homes are elderly. So if one person gets it then it's likely to spread like wildfire.

It's disappointing that people would celebrate these figures as if to prove their point of view and some sort of sick vindication of their opinions.

You seem to be celebrating the fact that big pharma profiteers out of making money that is killing the elderly off over in Norway.

The failure is not protecting the elderly, the outbreaks in hospital and care home settings is a failure of health service, it is a byproduct of governments under funding and underresourcing health care and that is where the responsibility lies.

But rather than blame those responsible you seek to laud them, your cheerleading of the absolutely disgusting practices of big pharma takes the biscuit though. I've seen your contradictions first hand when the vaccine kills the old you are in there defending it first hand, refusing to believe published evidence by medical authorities, citing that they died because of old age and poor health.

When the common denominator of Covid deaths is shown to be old age and poor health, you point blank refuse that those factors had anything to do with the deaths and it was Covid that killed them.

You are bound by your contradictions and your defence of big pharma is utterly, utterly disgusting.

As you like quoting people or stories (that you don't seem to read judging by your replies to these links) can you link a quote or a story were anybody said a Covid vaccine killed someone. Even one.

There are concerns over how effective the effective might be at protecting the elderly, but not one person has claimed the vaccine has killed anyone.

I have done so multiple times. The Norwegian Health agency have attributed deaths to the vaccines, you have been given the link previously and all you have attempted to do is spin.

In those articles it very clearly states the reaction to the vaccine was the cause of death. It's not in anyway ambiguous on it so I think it really outlines to the whole forum that you have a clear agenda at play and we have seen it before

When we have direct quotes from a top ranking HSE official that the virus is spreading like wildfire in hospital settings you deny it.

When we have direct quotes that the vaccine was responsible for the dates of the elderly in Norway, you deny it.

When we have record fines and judgements against big pharma of kickbacks and inducements to put unsafe drugs on the market, you deny it.

There's a pattern here and it seems you have no respect for the truth.


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« Reply #11951 on: Today at 08:49:10 AM »
You can't find anyone who said the vaccine is responsible for any deaths then? That's fine.

When faced with something you can't answer you go to your usual line of I've answered/posted it, go back and find it, but we all know it never actually happened. Or alternatively ignore it and go down some tangent to deflect from the point.

You've done both here I see.

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« Reply #11952 on: Today at 09:08:55 AM »
You can't find anyone who said the vaccine is responsible for any deaths then? That's fine.

When faced with something you can't answer you go to your usual line of I've answered/posted it, go back and find it, but we all know it never actually happened. Or alternatively ignore it and go down some tangent to deflect from the point.

You've done both here I see.

I have. You read those quotes before, you have links to the article. It very clearly lays the cause of death to the vaccine.

You see there is a flowing pattern of you denying facts here, as I have outlined in my previous post. The truth is of no interest to you, you have an agenda and the truth is an inconvenience to that.

You are a modern day holocaust denier so you shouldn't ask me for proof when you ignore it anyway. You already have the statements for the Norwegian medical agency and have chosen to ignore it.

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« Reply #11953 on: Today at 09:12:09 AM »
Up to 29 dead in Norway now from the vaccine.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-16/norway-vaccine-fatalities-among-people-75-and-older-rise-to-29

Can you post a link for your claim? The link you posted says 29 elderly people who were vaccinated have died.

Wow.

Complete and utter double standards.

ďall deaths are thus linked to this vaccine,Ē the Norwegian Medicines Agency said in a written response to Bloomberg on Saturday.

29 dead from the vaccine. They didn't have Covid though so they probably deserved to die in your eyes. As long as big pharma can make a few quid everything is alright in your eyes, you are amoral.

Embarrassing levels of denial on display from dublin7 here. Not the sharpest tool in the box.