The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

[deiseach]

I always wonder with politicians what "I take full responsibility" means. Saying the words seems to be the extent to which it matters.

[nrico2006]

Good honest interview from Stevie G.
You don't see that too often from players.

Bad tackle from Herrera also though.

Herrera barely touched him. 

[annapr]

Madness from Gerrard but he knows that himself.
Can never understand the hate from fans of other clubs towards him.
I've always thought he was a fantastic player and seems like a decent sort outside of football unlike some other players.

Despite the form table I could see that coming yesterday.
Not a Liverpool fan but I saw them against Blackburn and Swansea in past few weeks and I thought they were terrible.
Gonna be a huge task for them now.

[Mikhailov]

Good honest interview from Stevie G.
You don't see that too often from players.

Bad tackle from Herrera also though.

Unfortunately I have to disagree with you here LL despite the fact you are also a 'pool diehard...I am finding it hard to find sympathy for Stevie G this morning and that is after a stellar career in the red keeping us afloat when the whole thing was sinking around us.

The interview was all about Stevie G - he doesn't care about anyone else anymore...it was the very least he could have done. The rest of the lads are in the changing room and he is out giving interviews pleading or support for messing up our season...

In saying that the tackle wasn't as bad as some I have seen this season including Phil Jones yesterday who arrived so late on Henderson it was unbelievable...

Also not a word on 2 things mentioned in media last night or today;

- handball by DiMaria, that is red or minimum yellow but he got nothing
- Rooney's leg swipe on Mignolet near the end. the keeper is jumping to collect a ball and rooney kicks his ankles, nowhere near the ball and no hope of getting the ball but again brushed away by the referee.

[beer baron]

Good honest interview from Stevie G.
You don't see that too often from players.

Bad tackle from Herrera also though.

Unfortunately I have to disagree with you here LL despite the fact you are also a 'pool diehard...I am finding it hard to find sympathy for Stevie G this morning and that is after a stellar career in the red keeping us afloat when the whole thing was sinking around us.

The interview was all about Stevie G - he doesn't care about anyone else anymore...it was the very least he could have done. The rest of the lads are in the changing room and he is out giving interviews pleading or support for messing up our season...

In saying that the tackle wasn't as bad as some I have seen this season including Phil Jones yesterday who arrived so late on Henderson it was unbelievable...

Also not a word on 2 things mentioned in media last night or today;

- handball by DiMaria, that is red or minimum yellow but he got nothing
- Rooney's leg swipe on Mignolet near the end. the keeper is jumping to collect a ball and rooney kicks his ankles, nowhere near the ball and no hope of getting the ball but again brushed away by the referee.

Are you sure you're not a Liverpool die hard yourself?

[DuffleKing]

I think you're referring to the offence of 'deliberate handball' which is entirely different notion to what you saw with Di Maria.

Generally, I think even referees have lost sight of what a deliberate handball offence is, particularly around the penalty area. Unless it's cognitive and arms moving toward the ball it can't be deliberate,  especially when a ball is driven at a defender from 5 yards... Arms have rights too.

[Mikhailov]

Good honest interview from Stevie G.
You don't see that too often from players.

Bad tackle from Herrera also though.

Unfortunately I have to disagree with you here LL despite the fact you are also a 'pool diehard...I am finding it hard to find sympathy for Stevie G this morning and that is after a stellar career in the red keeping us afloat when the whole thing was sinking around us.

The interview was all about Stevie G - he doesn't care about anyone else anymore...it was the very least he could have done. The rest of the lads are in the changing room and he is out giving interviews pleading or support for messing up our season...

In saying that the tackle wasn't as bad as some I have seen this season including Phil Jones yesterday who arrived so late on Henderson it was unbelievable...

Also not a word on 2 things mentioned in media last night or today;

- handball by DiMaria, that is red or minimum yellow but he got nothing
- Rooney's leg swipe on Mignolet near the end. the keeper is jumping to collect a ball and rooney kicks his ankles, nowhere near the ball and no hope of getting the ball but again brushed away by the referee.

Are you sure you're not a Liverpool die hard yourself?

Can you not read correctly - I did state that I am also a Liverpool diehard !! - please read again....

[beer baron]

Madness from Gerrard but he knows that himself.
Can never understand the hate from fans of other clubs towards him.
I've always thought he was a fantastic player and seems like a decent sort outside of football unlike some other players.

Despite the form table I could see that coming yesterday.
Not a Liverpool fan but I saw them against Blackburn and Swansea in past few weeks and I thought they were terrible.
Gonna be a huge task for them now.

I used to not mind Gerrard infact i quite liked him years ago as i thought he was a very good player but friends of mine gave him so much more praise than Alonso that i started getting a bit fed up. Then in my opinion 4 or 5 years back he regressed quite a bit yet it seemed the media were afraid of saying so and last year when he played good but in my opinion probably wasnt even in Liverpool's top 3 or 4 players i think he came 2nd in the player if the year  He also in my opinion shouldve got plenty more red cards than he did but i suppose similar could be said of scholes. As ludicrous as it sounds at that level i think the refs are biased towards the English internationals.

[beer baron]

My apologies. I read it as ll was a diehard as well as a previous poster but you were now going to give your own unbiased opinion. Monday mornings eh 

[Mikhailov]

I think you're referring to the offence of 'deliberate handball' which is entirely different notion to what you saw with Di Maria.

Generally, I think even referees have lost sight of what a deliberate handball offence is, particularly around the penalty area. Unless it's cognitive and arms moving toward the ball it can't be deliberate,  especially when a ball is driven at a defender from 5 yards... Arms have rights too.

I am referring to the offence 'deliberate handball' which is exactly what DiMaria done....he caught the ball in mid flight as it was heading out of play but was still 5 yards inside the sideline....are you trying to say that his arms are in the position all the time and the ball just happened to land there . the reality is that if done that in the penalty box then it is a straight red so why not a straight red when it happened elsewhere on the pitch....

[nrico2006]

Good honest interview from Stevie G.
You don't see that too often from players.

Bad tackle from Herrera also though.

Unfortunately I have to disagree with you here LL despite the fact you are also a 'pool diehard...I am finding it hard to find sympathy for Stevie G this morning and that is after a stellar career in the red keeping us afloat when the whole thing was sinking around us.

The interview was all about Stevie G - he doesn't care about anyone else anymore...it was the very least he could have done. The rest of the lads are in the changing room and he is out giving interviews pleading or support for messing up our season...

In saying that the tackle wasn't as bad as some I have seen this season including Phil Jones yesterday who arrived so late on Henderson it was unbelievable...

Also not a word on 2 things mentioned in media last night or today;

- handball by DiMaria, that is red or minimum yellow but he got nothing
- Rooney's leg swipe on Mignolet near the end. the keeper is jumping to collect a ball and rooney kicks his ankles, nowhere near the ball and no hope of getting the ball but again brushed away by the referee.

- Not a word on the fact that Rooney possibly should have had a penalty as he was shoved to the ground by Skrtel in the action that ended up with him colliding with Mignolet.
- No mention of Ballotelli not receiving a deserved second yellow when he tried to cowardly swing Smalling over the advertising boards.
- No mention of the referee not giving United another penalty for Mignolet pushing Herrera in the back.
- Very little mention of Skrtels stamp.

As for Di Maria's handball, that was a genuine mistake where the referee used common sense and at worst a yellow card would have been given.

[laoislad]

Madness from Gerrard but he knows that himself.
Can never understand the hate from fans of other clubs towards him.
I've always thought he was a fantastic player and seems like a decent sort outside of football unlike some other players.

Despite the form table I could see that coming yesterday.
Not a Liverpool fan but I saw them against Blackburn and Swansea in past few weeks and I thought they were terrible.
Gonna be a huge task for them now.

I used to not mind Gerrard infact i quite liked him years ago as i thought he was a very good player but friends of mine gave him so much more praise than Alonso that i started getting a bit fed up. Then in my opinion 4 or 5 years back he regressed quite a bit yet it seemed the media were afraid of saying so and last year when he played good but in my opinion probably wasnt even in Liverpool's top 3 or 4 players i think he came 2nd in the player if the year  He also in my opinion shouldve got plenty more red cards than he did but i suppose similar could be said of scholes. As ludicrous as it sounds at that level i think the refs are biased towards the English internationals.

Doesn't sound ludicrous at all. Sure didn't Graham Poll come out and say he always thought twice about sending off an England player or was it about John Terry when he was England captain or something like that?

[nrico2006]

I think you're referring to the offence of 'deliberate handball' which is entirely different notion to what you saw with Di Maria.

Generally, I think even referees have lost sight of what a deliberate handball offence is, particularly around the penalty area. Unless it's cognitive and arms moving toward the ball it can't be deliberate,  especially when a ball is driven at a defender from 5 yards... Arms have rights too.

I am referring to the offence 'deliberate handball' which is exactly what DiMaria done....he caught the ball in mid flight as it was heading out of play but was still 5 yards inside the sideline....are you trying to say that his arms are in the position all the time and the ball just happened to land there . the reality is that if done that in the penalty box then it is a straight red so why not a straight red when it happened elsewhere on the pitch....

But is a deliberate handball automatically a red card?  I don't think it is.

[beer baron]

I think you're referring to the offence of 'deliberate handball' which is entirely different notion to what you saw with Di Maria.

Generally, I think even referees have lost sight of what a deliberate handball offence is, particularly around the penalty area. Unless it's cognitive and arms moving toward the ball it can't be deliberate,  especially when a ball is driven at a defender from 5 yards... Arms have rights too.

I am referring to the offence 'deliberate handball' which is exactly what DiMaria done....he caught the ball in mid flight as it was heading out of play but was still 5 yards inside the sideline....are you trying to say that his arms are in the position all the time and the ball just happened to land there . the reality is that if done that in the penalty box then it is a straight red so why not a straight red when it happened elsewhere on the pitch....

But is a deliberate handball automatically a red card?  I don't think it is.

No its not. Only time it would is if it was stopping a goal.

[beer baron]

Madness from Gerrard but he knows that himself.
Can never understand the hate from fans of other clubs towards him.
I've always thought he was a fantastic player and seems like a decent sort outside of football unlike some other players.

Despite the form table I could see that coming yesterday.
Not a Liverpool fan but I saw them against Blackburn and Swansea in past few weeks and I thought they were terrible.
Gonna be a huge task for them now.

I used to not mind Gerrard infact i quite liked him years ago as i thought he was a very good player but friends of mine gave him so much more praise than Alonso that i started getting a bit fed up. Then in my opinion 4 or 5 years back he regressed quite a bit yet it seemed the media were afraid of saying so and last year when he played good but in my opinion probably wasnt even in Liverpool's top 3 or 4 players i think he came 2nd in the player if the year  He also in my opinion shouldve got plenty more red cards than he did but i suppose similar could be said of scholes. As ludicrous as it sounds at that level i think the refs are biased towards the English internationals.

Doesn't sound ludicrous at all. Sure didn't Graham Poll come out and say he always thought twice about sending off an England player or was it about John Terry when he was England captain or something like that?

Didn't know that,at least i don't feel like im totally imagining it now