Man Utd Thread:

[The Worker]

Somebody explain to me the difference between what Wayne Rooney did and what Harry Redknapp did in the clip below and the rationale behind punishing one but not the other?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBsI7RAuvk&feature=related

never seen this interview before.... was it live on tv?

Yea and some joke Arry giving out about Rooney today...Should he not also of gotten a ban for that?

from your response i take it was not live on tv for lunchtime viewing?

[ross4life]

Fergie should have got a ban for this so...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1r1av1Shn4

[Clown]

Somebody explain to me the difference between what Wayne Rooney did and what Harry Redknapp did in the clip below and the rationale behind punishing one but not the other?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBsI7RAuvk&feature=related

never seen this interview before.... was it live on tv?

Yea and some joke Arry giving out about Rooney today...Should he not also of gotten a ban for that?

i dont think it was live on TV, was it??

[new devil]

Yea it was

[David McKeown]

it isnt a ban for swearing on a football pitch, and the FA arent setting that as a precedent. people coming out with that don't know what they're on about. If they were handing out bans for that Rooney would have been done long ago believe me, as foul mouthed as you could find

its a ban for, for no reason running to a camera and swearing several times down it deliberately, knowing full well millions of people would hear it on TV. its unprecedented by a player, i haven't seen an incident like it
combined with the fact that the FA pushed this respect campaign last week, and the fact he escaped a ban a while back - i think thats why theyve had to punish Rooney this time

Few of things wrong with this, firstly Rooney runs to the crowd and the cameraman approaches him Rooney does not run to the crowd, secondly its hardly unprecedented players swear regularly (see the Adams clip above) thirdly Rooney escaped without a ban for his elbow in accordance with FA rules, if the FA want to circumvent their own rules then they do not deserve respect. In addition the cameras at matches tend not to relay sounds thats left to the pitch side mics  Finally there is no rule against swearing into the camera, there is only the following rule

"A participant shall at all times act in the best interests of the game and shall not act in any manner which is improper or brings the game into disrepute or use any one, or a combination of, violent conduct, serious foul play, threatening, abusive, indecent or insulting words or behaviour"

That rule clearly makes swearing illegal regardless of where it happens. Again if the FA want the rule respected then enforce it uniformly and fairly and do not target high profile players because its convenient, a two footed lunge on a player should be a red card regardless of who commits the foul, likewise if swearing on a football pitch is now a two match ban as it is for Rooney then it should be a two match ban for everyone who has swore this season.

Football wont allow video technology because it will create a higher archy of rules that cant be applied at all levels but it will allow this? Hypocrisy once again

[gallsman]

it isnt a ban for swearing on a football pitch, and the FA arent setting that as a precedent. people coming out with that don't know what they're on about. If they were handing out bans for that Rooney would have been done long ago believe me, as foul mouthed as you could find

its a ban for, for no reason running to a camera and swearing several times down it deliberately, knowing full well millions of people would hear it on TV. its unprecedented by a player, i haven't seen an incident like it
combined with the fact that the FA pushed this respect campaign last week, and the fact he escaped a ban a while back - i think thats why theyve had to punish Rooney this time

Few of things wrong with this, firstly Rooney runs to the crowd and the cameraman approaches him Rooney does not run to the crowd, secondly its hardly unprecedented players swear regularly (see the Adams clip above) thirdly Rooney escaped without a ban for his elbow in accordance with FA rules, if the FA want to circumvent their own rules then they do not deserve respect. In addition the cameras at matches tend not to relay sounds thats left to the pitch side mics  Finally there is no rule against swearing into the camera, there is only the following rule

"A participant shall at all times act in the best interests of the game and shall not act in any manner which is improper or brings the game into disrepute or use any one, or a combination of, violent conduct, serious foul play, threatening, abusive, indecent or insulting words or behaviour"

That rule clearly makes swearing illegal regardless of where it happens. Again if the FA want the rule respected then enforce it uniformly and fairly and do not target high profile players because its convenient, a two footed lunge on a player should be a red card regardless of who commits the foul, likewise if swearing on a football pitch is now a two match ban as it is for Rooney then it should be a two match ban for everyone who has swore this season.

Football wont allow video technology because it will create a higher archy of rules that cant be applied at all levels but it will allow this? Hypocrisy once again

Ben Thatcher got done even though he'd already been yellow carded. Precedent set.

This is a dreadful, stupid decision. At the same time, if Rooney wasn't such a little knack then it wouldn't have happened in the first place. There was no need for him to do what he did at all. Pure stupidity. If he wasn't so incredibly blessed with talent God knows what he'd do with his life.

As people said, things tend to even themselves out in the long run. He got away with an elbow, but not this.

[David McKeown]

it isnt a ban for swearing on a football pitch, and the FA arent setting that as a precedent. people coming out with that don't know what they're on about. If they were handing out bans for that Rooney would have been done long ago believe me, as foul mouthed as you could find

its a ban for, for no reason running to a camera and swearing several times down it deliberately, knowing full well millions of people would hear it on TV. its unprecedented by a player, i haven't seen an incident like it
combined with the fact that the FA pushed this respect campaign last week, and the fact he escaped a ban a while back - i think thats why theyve had to punish Rooney this time

Few of things wrong with this, firstly Rooney runs to the crowd and the cameraman approaches him Rooney does not run to the crowd, secondly its hardly unprecedented players swear regularly (see the Adams clip above) thirdly Rooney escaped without a ban for his elbow in accordance with FA rules, if the FA want to circumvent their own rules then they do not deserve respect. In addition the cameras at matches tend not to relay sounds thats left to the pitch side mics  Finally there is no rule against swearing into the camera, there is only the following rule

"A participant shall at all times act in the best interests of the game and shall not act in any manner which is improper or brings the game into disrepute or use any one, or a combination of, violent conduct, serious foul play, threatening, abusive, indecent or insulting words or behaviour"

That rule clearly makes swearing illegal regardless of where it happens. Again if the FA want the rule respected then enforce it uniformly and fairly and do not target high profile players because its convenient, a two footed lunge on a player should be a red card regardless of who commits the foul, likewise if swearing on a football pitch is now a two match ban as it is for Rooney then it should be a two match ban for everyone who has swore this season.

Football wont allow video technology because it will create a higher archy of rules that cant be applied at all levels but it will allow this? Hypocrisy once again

Ben Thatcher got done even though he'd already been yellow carded. Precedent set.

This is a dreadful, stupid decision. At the same time, if Rooney wasn't such a little knack then it wouldn't have happened in the first place. There was no need for him to do what he did at all. Pure stupidity. If he wasn't so incredibly blessed with talent God knows what he'd do with his life.

As people said, things tend to even themselves out in the long run. He got away with an elbow, but not this.

The problem with the Ben Thatcher incident for me is that it was another incident the FA royally screwed up on and but for Thatcher and Man City's refreshing attitude to taking their punishment in stride Thatcher could have successfully appealed that ban with little problem.  The FA should have changed the rules then, they didnt and now they are having to do whatever they can to make examples of players.

[EC Unique]

Utd are to seek the ban to be reduced to one game.

United believe the punishment does not fit the crime and the FA are making an example of Rooney because of who he is.

They also feel the swift apology the England man issued after the game has not been taken into account.

[tommysmith]

it isnt a ban for swearing on a football pitch, and the FA arent setting that as a precedent. people coming out with that don't know what they're on about. If they were handing out bans for that Rooney would have been done long ago believe me, as foul mouthed as you could find

its a ban for, for no reason running to a camera and swearing several times down it deliberately, knowing full well millions of people would hear it on TV. its unprecedented by a player, i haven't seen an incident like it
combined with the fact that the FA pushed this respect campaign last week, and the fact he escaped a ban a while back - i think thats why theyve had to punish Rooney this time

Few of things wrong with this, firstly Rooney runs to the crowd and the cameraman approaches him Rooney does not run to the crowd, secondly its hardly unprecedented players swear regularly (see the Adams clip above) thirdly Rooney escaped without a ban for his elbow in accordance with FA rules, if the FA want to circumvent their own rules then they do not deserve respect. In addition the cameras at matches tend not to relay sounds thats left to the pitch side mics  Finally there is no rule against swearing into the camera, there is only the following rule

"A participant shall at all times act in the best interests of the game and shall not act in any manner which is improper or brings the game into disrepute or use any one, or a combination of, violent conduct, serious foul play, threatening, abusive, indecent or insulting words or behaviour"

That rule clearly makes swearing illegal regardless of where it happens. Again if the FA want the rule respected then enforce it uniformly and fairly and do not target high profile players because its convenient, a two footed lunge on a player should be a red card regardless of who commits the foul, likewise if swearing on a football pitch is now a two match ban as it is for Rooney then it should be a two match ban for everyone who has swore this season.

The tr**p deserves all he gets.

[Denn Forever]

So, Wednesday.  Any thoughts?

[EC Unique]

Would take a score draw. Anything else would be a bonus.

[under the bar]

So how many points will United need to win the league?  80 should probably do it I reckon.

United can get max 87 points, Arsenal max 83, Chelsea max 78

Provided they win the other 5 fixtures United can lose to both teams and still finish 3 points ahead of Chelsea. In the same scenario Arsenal would need to win every one of their 8 games to pip united by 2 points.   from waht we've seen of Arsenal that quite unlikely so United Could probably even well afford to lose to Chelsea and draw two other games and still win the title.   


Man Utd played 31 points 66
Arsenal played 30 points 59
Chelsea played 30 points 55

[new devil]

Would be delighted with a score draw...I hope chica starts because he will tear that Chelsea defense apart with his runs like in the league..... Really looking forward to it.... And with the results at the weekend we don't really have to watch ourselves for the league

Sort of a stupid question but keep in mind that if we don't then city will...would yous rather win the champions league or FA cup THIS YEAR??

[gawa316]

Would be delighted with a score draw...I hope chica starts because he will tear that Chelsea defense apart with his runs like in the league..... Really looking forward to it.... And with the results at the weekend we don't really have to watch ourselves for the league

Sort of a stupid question but keep in mind that if we don't then city will...would yous rather win the champions league or FA cup THIS YEAR??

What a ridiculous question

[supersarsfields]

Would be delighted with a score draw...I hope chica starts because he will tear that Chelsea defense apart with his runs like in the league..... Really looking forward to it.... And with the results at the weekend we don't really have to watch ourselves for the league

Sort of a stupid question but keep in mind that if we don't then city will...would yous rather win the champions league or FA cup THIS YEAR??

What a ridiculous question

Exactly. It's like saying you'd rather see City mess up than United succeed.