Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[Nanderson]

The rule is a player who commits a foul while in possession must hand the ball back to the nearest opponent in a prompt and respectful manner. Patsy didn't commit a foul whilst in possession so didnt have to hand the ball back. He did delay the free being taken so there is probably justification to bring the free forward. You can disagree with the outcome but since we dont really know why it was moved you can't say it was definitely wrong. The two point arc is going to cause plenty of controversy, with Shane inside the arc with his back foot on the line it didn't look like a 2 pointer as the kick looks to be taken inside the arc. A pretty difficult call for anyone to make. 
Don't think any conspiracy against S'Neil just didn't have quite enough over the 60 mins.

Is it in the rules that a referee has to point the the direction of the free or do all players need to be telepathic?

[Ryan O]

In relation to the referees in the county, there's some good young refs coming through but do they ever get chance at decent game. 2 weeks ago you had Barry Cassidy doing the u14A final, Harry Tohill and Maurice Corrigan the two U16A semi -finals, no disrespect to these men but do they need to be doing them, maybe go as lineman and keep the new lads right if needed.

Surly these young referees should be
getting these type of games, decent crowds  proper championship and good standard, instead they're getting a intermediate/junior reserve game.
I get there is egos and a percentage of prestige involved but County Board need to push young refs to the front.

[GTP]

PB did turn his back on ref so not sure pointing would have made much difference. At this stage most players know if they have the ball and the whistle goes you need to stop and see what is going on. The interpretation of refs when bringing a free forward has always been ropey. With handing it back and the bigger penalty now in place it has become more of an issue. I have tried to give up complaining about refs as it is very difficult to tell why any decision has been made.

[Stickman]

In relation to the referees in the county, there's some good young refs coming through but do they ever get chance at decent game. 2 weeks ago you had Barry Cassidy doing the u14A final, Harry Tohill and Maurice Corrigan the two U16A semi -finals, no disrespect to these men but do they need to be doing them, maybe go as lineman and keep the new lads right if needed.

Surly these young referees should be
getting these type of games, decent crowds  proper championship and good standard, instead they're getting a intermediate/junior reserve game.
I get there is egos and a percentage of prestige involved but County Board need to push young refs to the front.

I'd have to agree with this post, in a few years time we are going to be relying on these younger referees a lot and have a severe shortage if the current trend continues

[gallsman]

The ref doesn't even point what way the foul was on the infraction is given.

For me this isn't an issue as he was indicating why he'd awarded the free, for the swinging arm. The free was the correct decision.

Moving it up a completely different decision and it's pretty clear to see that nobody on either team really knew what was going on at first.

As for McGuigan's being a two pointer, I agree that it looks it, but I don't think the video definitively proves it.

[cornerback]

Appeal lodged by Slaughtneil

[Ryan O]

Thats poor from Slaughneil in my opinion, Newbridge are the only potential losers here. Little reward for being the best team on the day.

Turn Shane's into a two point score, sure they were still beat.

[JE23]

Appeal lodged by Slaughtneil

Embarrassing

[jb77]

Too many variables, nonsense

[Ryan O]

They aren't appealing they just want and explanation. 😂.

Talk about starting to believe your own hype. Get ready for hurling lads and be happy you still have it.

[zapped]

An embarrassing turn of events for Slaughtneil in the last few days.

For a club with so much talent their only success since 2017 (with the exception of the freak Covid season) is on the hurling side which lets face it nobody really takes seriously.

I'd be frustrated with that return too if I was them. Now I'm hearing they're not appealing but just looking for an arm around the shoulder and an explanation of where it went wrong. Spending half their time training at hurling probably not a great start.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Alrite zapped less of the poor wumming I'd say as a club there's not many if any wins as much as Slaughtneil

Some boy on the Twitter queried how many steps Shane took before the contentious point, can anyone with better eyesight than me clarify?

[GTP]

He solos on the 45 and takes by my count at least 7 steps it does look like over carrying. On the 'appeal' if S'Neil are simply looking an explanation then nothing wrong with that - it might actually be good for the GAA if this sort of information was provided on certain incidents. It could stop people speculating and blaming refs about things when we are not fully informed.

[tyrone08]

https://x.com/McCoyNiall/status/1977687674904510799

Should have been a 2 pointer. As I say the ref needs to be absolutely sure it is, or is not. The evidence supports it should have a been a two pointer. The balance of probability is in S'neils favour here.

The ref doesn't even point what way the foul was on the infraction is given. That is such an incredible penalty for S'neil to have suffered. The ball broke, a s'neil player gets the break, the Newbridge player hits and the ball spills and the ref penalises s'neil, and as I said no hand signal to indicate his decision. The s'neil player who won the break concentration was on getting the ball. A brilliant example of such a terrible rule never mind the ref not signalling clearly

Patsy dropped it / placed it on the ground instead of handing it back.

I'd disagree. Looked very much like he had it knocked out of his hands. Add it to Shane McGuigans 2 pointer that wasn't given Slaughtneil have every right to be unhappy with the referee with how the game ended.

Looks like he was definitely inside the arch so a 1 point was correct.

Edit. Looked at it again there.  Not sure either way now. This was always going to be the issue with the 2 point rule

[Derry Man]

He solos on the 45 and takes by my count at least 7 steps it does look like over carrying. On the 'appeal' if S'Neil are simply looking an explanation then nothing wrong with that - it might actually be good for the GAA if this sort of information was provided on certain incidents. It could stop people speculating and blaming refs about things when we are not fully informed.

So he got 2 things wrong in the 1 incident? What are we not informed about? I thought he had a poor game and got a lot of the big calls wrong on both sides