Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[Ryan O]

It's wrong to compare the Fermanagh situation as the player was 5m+ outside the arc on that occasion. On this one it is inconclusive at best. Is his foot on the line, is it inside? It's certainly not outside. So we have to run with the referees decision (who is better placed than any of us to decide) and that decision has to be final particularly when it's a marginal call.

Apparently SN are not objecting to the McGuigan shot and have simply asked for clarity around the 50m penalty. Was it more than 50m or less? I'd have said it was around 50m but they are claiming it should have been brought up further therefore it would have been inside the arc.

Newbridge won by 2points so does it even matter? It's a referees decision, should we ALL ask for clarification on every referees decision? I think SN need to just take their beating here. They have the best squad of players in Ulster and have lost again, maybe they should ask why instead of blaming referees?

There's a difference between compare and contrast. We're making the same point.

Even if moving it up brought the free inside the arc, they could still bring it back outside, no?

Yes agree, that's what I couldnt understand. If they can bring it back out for a 2 pointer then what was the purpose of the SN appeal?

To pander to a few prominent members of the playing squad most likely

Pandering to the manager maybe? Who all being well won't appear in Derry football again.
An absolute bluffer on the manager merry go round.

[Mikhailov]

Lads, on the outside looking in here.

Regards the SNeil appeal on the 50m penalty, I can just about understand their logic but can't understand why they chose to appeal (if that makes sense)
I am assuming they think if the 50m was applied correctly it would have been brought up well inside the arc and assumed Newbridge would have taken the 1 point score whereas the way it was done, Newbridge had no choice and had to go for the 2 point score. Maybe if they had a choice they would have went for the safe option

Another poster suggests SNeil have the best squad in Ulster - do most Derry people think that? There is a lot of quality teams in Derry never mind Ulster to suggest SNeil is the best was a surprise shout to me, to be honest.

[jb77]

Talent wise, I'd take Glen, Magherafelt and Newbridge any day

[gallsman]

Lads, on the outside looking in here.

Regards the SNeil appeal on the 50m penalty, I can just about understand their logic but can't understand why they chose to appeal (if that makes sense)
I am assuming they think if the 50m was applied correctly it would have been brought up well inside the arc and assumed Newbridge would have taken the 1 point score whereas the way it was done, Newbridge had no choice and had to go for the 2 point score. Maybe if they had a choice they would have went for the safe option

Another poster suggests SNeil have the best squad in Ulster - do most Derry people think that? There is a lot of quality teams in Derry never mind Ulster to suggest SNeil is the best was a surprise shout to me, to be honest.

What I presume happened, and what was also hinted at on commentary, was that the players communicated with the ref while running up the pitch that they wanted to bring it back out, so he just stopped there. Not sure whether he's supposed to set it down at the "official" 50m up the pitch point and only go then through the farce of bringing it back out.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Surely a conversation after sorts that. Even next day. All sounds a bit weird tbh

[gallsman]

Desperation maybe, clutching at strings etc

[OakLeaf]

What I presume happened, and what was also hinted at on commentary, was that the players communicated with the ref while running up the pitch that they wanted to bring it back out, so he just stopped there. Not sure whether he's supposed to set it down at the "official" 50m up the pitch point and only go then through the farce of bringing it back out.

Thats what i was thinking as well but the weird part was that he then sprayed a line about a metre outside the arch. Regardless, to appeal that or the Shane 1/2 pointer was ill-advised.

[greenlight]

One football championship in 8 years with presumably hundreds of thousands spent on management in that time along with being the only club in Derry with 20% of their team being All Star winners probably a major factor also.

Still, always easier to blame the ref I suppose

[seanyb]

Anyway...any predictions for the final?

[JoG2]

One football championship in 8 years with presumably hundreds of thousands spent on management in that time along with being the only club in Derry with 20% of their team being All Star winners probably a major factor also.

Still, always easier to blame the ref I suppose

Why not go back 10 or 11 years and include the Ulster club titles?

[jb77]

Anyway...any predictions for the final?

Id lean Magherafelts direction, improve almost every game seemingly. Big presence in the middle, good forwards.

Newbridge can get scores from nearly everyone on the pitch but they can't afford as many misfires on the kickout with how direct Rossa play. Shea Mcguckin punished some poor fouls from Glen, you have to be careful with that too

[greenlight]

One football championship in 8 years with presumably hundreds of thousands spent on management in that time along with being the only club in Derry with 20% of their team being All Star winners probably a major factor also.

Still, always easier to blame the ref I suppose

Why not go back 10 or 11 years and include the Ulster club titles?

As they were 4 years of huge success immediately preceding this regression into also rans. The failure to maintain that level of success is probably where most of the frustration is coming from (the point I was trying to make) 👍

[JohnDenver]

Anyway...any predictions for the final?

Id lean Magherafelts direction, improve almost every game seemingly. Big presence in the middle, good forwards.

Newbridge can get scores from nearly everyone on the pitch but they can't afford as many misfires on the kickout with how direct Rossa play. Shea Mcguckin punished some poor fouls from Glen, you have to be careful with that too

Shea McGuckin has been very impressive. To a point where you would question if Lynch was fit would he get back in the Magherafelt team?

[Ryan O]

Regarding the last kick out were the free was brought forward, he's got a massive amount of praise on here and rightly so but what the hell was Fionn Mc Eldownney thinking, jumping along with Rogers and dispossessed his own man.
And also the fact that CD opted to go for 2 points rather than taking ball in as close as possible to level up the match shows a serious belief in himself. Is he one of the top 3 or 4 players in Derry? Personally I think so.
 Glass, Rogers,CD, Mc Cluskey in that order.

[ck]

It's wrong to compare the Fermanagh situation as the player was 5m+ outside the arc on that occasion. On this one it is inconclusive at best. Is his foot on the line, is it inside? It's certainly not outside. So we have to run with the referees decision (who is better placed than any of us to decide) and that decision has to be final particularly when it's a marginal call.

Apparently SN are not objecting to the McGuigan shot and have simply asked for clarity around the 50m penalty. Was it more than 50m or less? I'd have said it was around 50m but they are claiming it should have been brought up further therefore it would have been inside the arc.

Newbridge won by 2points so does it even matter? It's a referees decision, should we ALL ask for clarification on every referees decision? I think SN need to just take their beating here. They have the best squad of players in Ulster and have lost again, maybe they should ask why instead of blaming referees?

There's a difference between compare and contrast. We're making the same point.

Even if moving it up brought the free inside the arc, they could still bring it back outside, no?

Yes agree, that's what I couldnt understand. If they can bring it back out for a 2 pointer then what was the purpose of the SN appeal?

To pander to a few prominent members of the playing squad most likely

Pandering to the manager maybe? Who all being well won't appear in Derry football again.
An absolute bluffer on the manager merry go round.

Heard he's away. Looked for another year but got a firm no. Although they got shot of him last year too and then went and got him back when they could get no-one else.