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[GTP]

As a simple example no one knows why the last free for Newbridge was brought forward. If it was explained it was for dissent or delaying the kick or whatever it may help people understand the refs viewpoint. And maybe we could see that they got it right and we wouldn't be left thinking they got a lot of big calls wrong.

[OakLeaf]

As a simple example no one knows why the last free for Newbridge was brought forward. If it was explained it was for dissent or delaying the kick or whatever it may help people understand the refs viewpoint. And maybe we could see that they got it right and we wouldn't be left thinking they got a lot of big calls wrong.

You'd probably need new signals for the ref to signal what the 50m advance was for. It's definitely doable and would remove alot of the confusion.

[Wildweasel74]

The free moved up I didn't know who it was for at the time.

[ck]

McGuigan was inside the arc as far as I can see, so one pointer. It's the referees call anyway. Are we now going to appeal referee decisions?
Should Newbridge appeal the touch on the ground by Paudi which led to a 2 pointer for Slaughtneil?

The 2 point arc is always going to cause controversy but it has to be the refs call. We can't have these decisions being decided in a board room.

[Wildweasel74]

2 games down south were replayed due to a obvious mistake in a 2pt call.

[marty34]

McGuigan was inside the arc as far as I can see, so one pointer. It's the referees call anyway. Are we now going to appeal referee decisions?
Should Newbridge appeal the touch on the ground by Paudi which led to a 2 pointer for Slaughtneil?

The 2 point arc is always going to cause controversy but it has to be the refs call. We can't have these decisions being decided in a board room.

No he wasn't. His planted foot was just before the arc line or on it but it definately wasn't inside it.

The rule is one foot can be on the line.

Clearly a 2 pointer.

[gallsman]

McGuigan was inside the arc as far as I can see, so one pointer. It's the referees call anyway. Are we now going to appeal referee decisions?
Should Newbridge appeal the touch on the ground by Paudi which led to a 2 pointer for Slaughtneil?

The 2 point arc is always going to cause controversy but it has to be the refs call. We can't have these decisions being decided in a board room.

No he wasn't. His planted foot was just before the arc line or on it but it definately wasn't inside it.

The rule is one foot can be on the line.

Clearly a 2 pointer.

From the footage provided, you cannot definitively say that.

[jmcgdoire]

McGuigan was inside the arc as far as I can see, so one pointer. It's the referees call anyway. Are we now going to appeal referee decisions?
Should Newbridge appeal the touch on the ground by Paudi which led to a 2 pointer for Slaughtneil?

The 2 point arc is always going to cause controversy but it has to be the refs call. We can't have these decisions being decided in a board room.

No he wasn't. His planted foot was just before the arc line or on it but it definately wasn't inside it.

The rule is one foot can be on the line.

Clearly a 2 pointer.

From the footage provided, your cannot definitely say that.

One thing you can tell from the footage is that he overcarried the ball. So go ahead and appeal it. He was lucky to get one point out of it never mind two.

Its one thing if the officials keep and submit an incorrect scoreline but this nonsense of appealing in-game referee decisions/mistakes has to stop. Refs will make mistakes. Theyre human. We just ask that they try to be consistent and unbias.

Slaughtneil are perfectly aware of the questionable calls that went their way in the lavey game (mainly the black card against lavey when they were through on goal and the overcarrying for Cassidys goal). Why didnt they appeal these or ask for a review? Were they not in favour of justice back then but they are now?

[gallsman]

McGuigan was inside the arc as far as I can see, so one pointer. It's the referees call anyway. Are we now going to appeal referee decisions?
Should Newbridge appeal the touch on the ground by Paudi which led to a 2 pointer for Slaughtneil?

The 2 point arc is always going to cause controversy but it has to be the refs call. We can't have these decisions being decided in a board room.

No he wasn't. His planted foot was just before the arc line or on it but it definately wasn't inside it.

The rule is one foot can be on the line.

Clearly a 2 pointer.

From the footage provided, your cannot definitely say that.

One thing you can tell from the footage is that he overcarried the ball. So go ahead and appeal it. He was lucky to get one point out of it never mind two.

Its one thing if the officials keep and submit an incorrect scoreline but this nonsense of appealing in-game referee decisions/mistakes has to stop. Refs will make mistakes. Theyre human. We just ask that they try to be consistent and unbias.

Slaughtneil are perfectly aware of the questionable calls that went their way in the lavey game (mainly the black card against lavey when they were through on goal and the overcarrying for Cassidys goal). Why didnt they appeal these or ask for a review? Were they not in favour of justice back then but they are now?

Of course, but where these mistakes impact the result of the game and there is "overwhelming" or "compelling" video evidence of the mistake (can't remember what the specific term is used in the Official Guide but think it's one of the two) then it should be looked at.

The footage from the Fermanagh league final, for example, was overwhelming/compelling. It shows him ten yards inside the arc. The McGuigan footage is not.

[ck]

It's wrong to compare the Fermanagh situation as the player was 5m+ outside the arc on that occasion. On this one it is inconclusive at best. Is his foot on the line, is it inside? It's certainly not outside. So we have to run with the referees decision (who is better placed than any of us to decide) and that decision has to be final particularly when it's a marginal call.

Apparently SN are not objecting to the McGuigan shot and have simply asked for clarity around the 50m penalty. Was it more than 50m or less? I'd have said it was around 50m but they are claiming it should have been brought up further therefore it would have been inside the arc.

Newbridge won by 2points so does it even matter? It's a referees decision, should we ALL ask for clarification on every referees decision? I think SN need to just take their beating here. They have the best squad of players in Ulster and have lost again, maybe they should ask why instead of blaming referees?

[jb77]

Via Mal McMullan - UPDATE: Sleacht Néill's appeal to Derry GAA wasn't successful on Monday night. They won't be pursuing it any further.

[gallsman]

It's wrong to compare the Fermanagh situation as the player was 5m+ outside the arc on that occasion. On this one it is inconclusive at best. Is his foot on the line, is it inside? It's certainly not outside. So we have to run with the referees decision (who is better placed than any of us to decide) and that decision has to be final particularly when it's a marginal call.

Apparently SN are not objecting to the McGuigan shot and have simply asked for clarity around the 50m penalty. Was it more than 50m or less? I'd have said it was around 50m but they are claiming it should have been brought up further therefore it would have been inside the arc.

Newbridge won by 2points so does it even matter? It's a referees decision, should we ALL ask for clarification on every referees decision? I think SN need to just take their beating here. They have the best squad of players in Ulster and have lost again, maybe they should ask why instead of blaming referees?

There's a difference between compare and contrast. We're making the same point.

Even if moving it up brought the free inside the arc, they could still bring it back outside, no?

[ck]

Via Mal McMullan - UPDATE: Sleacht Néill's appeal to Derry GAA wasn't successful on Monday night. They won't be pursuing it any further.

The more you look at it, the more you have to wonder what they were appealing.

[ck]

It's wrong to compare the Fermanagh situation as the player was 5m+ outside the arc on that occasion. On this one it is inconclusive at best. Is his foot on the line, is it inside? It's certainly not outside. So we have to run with the referees decision (who is better placed than any of us to decide) and that decision has to be final particularly when it's a marginal call.

Apparently SN are not objecting to the McGuigan shot and have simply asked for clarity around the 50m penalty. Was it more than 50m or less? I'd have said it was around 50m but they are claiming it should have been brought up further therefore it would have been inside the arc.

Newbridge won by 2points so does it even matter? It's a referees decision, should we ALL ask for clarification on every referees decision? I think SN need to just take their beating here. They have the best squad of players in Ulster and have lost again, maybe they should ask why instead of blaming referees?

There's a difference between compare and contrast. We're making the same point.

Even if moving it up brought the free inside the arc, they could still bring it back outside, no?

Yes agree, that's what I couldnt understand. If they can bring it back out for a 2 pointer then what was the purpose of the SN appeal?

[zapped]

It's wrong to compare the Fermanagh situation as the player was 5m+ outside the arc on that occasion. On this one it is inconclusive at best. Is his foot on the line, is it inside? It's certainly not outside. So we have to run with the referees decision (who is better placed than any of us to decide) and that decision has to be final particularly when it's a marginal call.

Apparently SN are not objecting to the McGuigan shot and have simply asked for clarity around the 50m penalty. Was it more than 50m or less? I'd have said it was around 50m but they are claiming it should have been brought up further therefore it would have been inside the arc.

Newbridge won by 2points so does it even matter? It's a referees decision, should we ALL ask for clarification on every referees decision? I think SN need to just take their beating here. They have the best squad of players in Ulster and have lost again, maybe they should ask why instead of blaming referees?

There's a difference between compare and contrast. We're making the same point.

Even if moving it up brought the free inside the arc, they could still bring it back outside, no?

Yes agree, that's what I couldnt understand. If they can bring it back out for a 2 pointer then what was the purpose of the SN appeal?

To pander to a few prominent members of the playing squad most likely