Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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twohands!!!

One big advantage of the rule around having to hand the ball back is that it immediately gives an "extra" advantage to the team who were fouled in that the player who committed the foul is likely to be out of position.

Bar one or two all the players at the weekend didn't seem to have too much of an issue with the rule and it seemed to remove so much of the embarrassing childish nonsense from the game.

Some people are looking at the games at the weekend as the end of the process, as opposed to another step in the chain. The FRC had said all along that they never expected things to work perfectly on day one out of the traps. Overall this is such a better way of doing rule changes compared to the old way of a handul of ould lads sitting around a committee table coming up with a rule and then that either being approved or not.

statto

Quote from: manwithnoplan on January 29, 2025, 08:26:41 AM
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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2025, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: donelli on January 27, 2025, 03:55:52 PMI was at the Cavan Monaghan game at the weekend. Thoughts on the new rules:

1v1 throw in: irrelevant enough. makes no difference either way.

dissent rule: has to be binned straight away. The ref brought the ball up about 10 times for 'dissent', most of which are questionable. 50m is a ridiculous penalty and wont be managable at the club game as it gives the referee too much influence. By the 2nd half on Saturday, the crowd were actually laughing at the decisions for this farcical rule. 

the 3 inside: is workable. appears to be self policed by the players. It creates less congestion in the defending end and attacks can be penetrated better with more space available.

kick outs beyond 40m: very good addition. created a lot of aerial battles and duals.

2 point arc: will influence the game a lot, particularly if strength of the wind increases/decreases etc. Th downside of it is that is completely devalues a goal.

solo and go: quicks the game. very difficulty for the defender though.

no back pass for the goalie: good addition too. created more pressing high up.

roaming goalie in attacking half: teams choice. Both teams adopted this on Saturday. Monaghan probably won the game as their keeper was better at being the 'spare man'. If this stays, there will be less 'natural' keepers in no. 1 and id imagine managers will revert to a midfielder with a good place ball kick.

overall it was a good open game with plenty of entertainment for the supporters.



Are you implying the ref will go out of his way to move the ball forward for dissent? Think its simple enough, players don't stop a quick solo/free and don't talk back to ref after he has given his decision and reason why. Not sure on the only captains rule but hey ho
If that were only so.
Some refs penalised the "stop a quick free" with dogmatic reference to this (nonsensical) answer offered by the FRC.

If I over-carry the ball and the referee calls a foul, can I not just drop the ball and get myself into a defensive position?

A. No. In this scenario if you don't "hand over" the ball by giving it directly to the nearest opposition player in a prompt and respectful manner, the referee will consider that you are purposefully delay play will advance the ball 50m 
w**ker of a rule. I've a lot of time for Gavin but he comes across as a condescending p***k at times when discussing these rules.

Why should the team committing a foul get the benefit of slowing down the other team to enable them to get back into defensive shape?

If it's a free for a foul on the ball, and not an opponent, it is a bit ridiculous to expect a player to perhaps run 10 or 20 yards to the nearest opponent to hand over the ball, considering the initial offence actually impeded their own team anyway. Ball should be set down, and the onus on the other team to go get it and get their attack going. Run 20 yards, hand over the ball, then there's a 'solo and go' and that man is out of the game altogether? The punishment in this case far outweighs the crime.

For my own clarity, once a 'solo and go' is done, how long do the defensive team have to wait to put a challenge in? Is this open for abuse by players taking the solo and go, then just running in to a nearby opponent?
In the Ulster game Niall Grimley did exactly this ran into the opponent and ref gave a tap over free.

Armagh18

Quote from: statto on January 29, 2025, 10:48:40 AM
Quote from: manwithnoplan on January 29, 2025, 08:26:41 AM
Quote from: DubsforSam on January 29, 2025, 05:44:19 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 28, 2025, 09:13:39 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2025, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2025, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: donelli on January 27, 2025, 03:55:52 PMI was at the Cavan Monaghan game at the weekend. Thoughts on the new rules:

1v1 throw in: irrelevant enough. makes no difference either way.

dissent rule: has to be binned straight away. The ref brought the ball up about 10 times for 'dissent', most of which are questionable. 50m is a ridiculous penalty and wont be managable at the club game as it gives the referee too much influence. By the 2nd half on Saturday, the crowd were actually laughing at the decisions for this farcical rule. 

the 3 inside: is workable. appears to be self policed by the players. It creates less congestion in the defending end and attacks can be penetrated better with more space available.

kick outs beyond 40m: very good addition. created a lot of aerial battles and duals.

2 point arc: will influence the game a lot, particularly if strength of the wind increases/decreases etc. Th downside of it is that is completely devalues a goal.

solo and go: quicks the game. very difficulty for the defender though.

no back pass for the goalie: good addition too. created more pressing high up.

roaming goalie in attacking half: teams choice. Both teams adopted this on Saturday. Monaghan probably won the game as their keeper was better at being the 'spare man'. If this stays, there will be less 'natural' keepers in no. 1 and id imagine managers will revert to a midfielder with a good place ball kick.

overall it was a good open game with plenty of entertainment for the supporters.



Are you implying the ref will go out of his way to move the ball forward for dissent? Think its simple enough, players don't stop a quick solo/free and don't talk back to ref after he has given his decision and reason why. Not sure on the only captains rule but hey ho
If that were only so.
Some refs penalised the "stop a quick free" with dogmatic reference to this (nonsensical) answer offered by the FRC.

If I over-carry the ball and the referee calls a foul, can I not just drop the ball and get myself into a defensive position?

A. No. In this scenario if you don't "hand over" the ball by giving it directly to the nearest opposition player in a prompt and respectful manner, the referee will consider that you are purposefully delay play will advance the ball 50m 
w**ker of a rule. I've a lot of time for Gavin but he comes across as a condescending p***k at times when discussing these rules.

Why should the team committing a foul get the benefit of slowing down the other team to enable them to get back into defensive shape?

If it's a free for a foul on the ball, and not an opponent, it is a bit ridiculous to expect a player to perhaps run 10 or 20 yards to the nearest opponent to hand over the ball, considering the initial offence actually impeded their own team anyway. Ball should be set down, and the onus on the other team to go get it and get their attack going. Run 20 yards, hand over the ball, then there's a 'solo and go' and that man is out of the game altogether? The punishment in this case far outweighs the crime.

For my own clarity, once a 'solo and go' is done, how long do the defensive team have to wait to put a challenge in? Is this open for abuse by players taking the solo and go, then just running in to a nearby opponent?
In the Ulster game Niall Grimley did exactly this ran into the opponent and ref gave a tap over free.
Yeah absolutely, most refs will fall for it too.

Main Street

Quote from: tbrick18 on January 29, 2025, 10:15:46 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2025, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2025, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: donelli on January 27, 2025, 03:55:52 PMI was at the Cavan Monaghan game at the weekend. Thoughts on the new rules:

1v1 throw in: irrelevant enough. makes no difference either way.

dissent rule: has to be binned straight away. The ref brought the ball up about 10 times for 'dissent', most of which are questionable. 50m is a ridiculous penalty and wont be managable at the club game as it gives the referee too much influence. By the 2nd half on Saturday, the crowd were actually laughing at the decisions for this farcical rule. 

the 3 inside: is workable. appears to be self policed by the players. It creates less congestion in the defending end and attacks can be penetrated better with more space available.

kick outs beyond 40m: very good addition. created a lot of aerial battles and duals.

2 point arc: will influence the game a lot, particularly if strength of the wind increases/decreases etc. Th downside of it is that is completely devalues a goal.

solo and go: quicks the game. very difficulty for the defender though.

no back pass for the goalie: good addition too. created more pressing high up.

roaming goalie in attacking half: teams choice. Both teams adopted this on Saturday. Monaghan probably won the game as their keeper was better at being the 'spare man'. If this stays, there will be less 'natural' keepers in no. 1 and id imagine managers will revert to a midfielder with a good place ball kick.

overall it was a good open game with plenty of entertainment for the supporters.



Are you implying the ref will go out of his way to move the ball forward for dissent? Think its simple enough, players don't stop a quick solo/free and don't talk back to ref after he has given his decision and reason why. Not sure on the only captains rule but hey ho
If that were only so.
Some refs penalised the "stop a quick free" with dogmatic reference to this (nonsensical) answer offered by the FRC.

If I over-carry the ball and the referee calls a foul, can I not just drop the ball and get myself into a defensive position?

A. No. In this scenario if you don't "hand over" the ball by giving it directly to the nearest opposition player in a prompt and respectful manner, the referee will consider that you are purposefully delay play will advance the ball 50m 

I had no idea this was a rule!
So if I foul the ball on the 21, and the nearest opposition player is 10m away I have to go give him the ball and he can take a free from there? Not where the foul occurred?
If they're being strict about the rules, then that opposition player would have to carry the ball back 10m to where the original foul was, otherwise he's taking it from the wrong place and its a hop ball?

Holding the ball or throwing it away I get, but surely setting the ball down and moving on is the sensible rule.
There was a 50m advantage given to Tyrone on Sat night against Derry. Derry player was in around the Tyrone end line, was on the ground, 3 defenders around him/on him and he couldn't get up. Ref blows the free for overcarrying - fair enough. But he wasn't able to immediately get up as he had to wait for the defenders to get off him so the ref gave the 50m advantage. I thought that was harsh.
Back to the question asked of the FRC, ´If I overcarry the ball and the ref calls a foul can i not just put the ball on the ground and move away?´

The answer is in the question, that's what should happen, put the ball on the ground without delay and move away  and afaiu Jim Gavin post-weekend games, that's his opinion also.


Armagh18

Quote from: Main Street on January 29, 2025, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 29, 2025, 10:15:46 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2025, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2025, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: donelli on January 27, 2025, 03:55:52 PMI was at the Cavan Monaghan game at the weekend. Thoughts on the new rules:

1v1 throw in: irrelevant enough. makes no difference either way.

dissent rule: has to be binned straight away. The ref brought the ball up about 10 times for 'dissent', most of which are questionable. 50m is a ridiculous penalty and wont be managable at the club game as it gives the referee too much influence. By the 2nd half on Saturday, the crowd were actually laughing at the decisions for this farcical rule. 

the 3 inside: is workable. appears to be self policed by the players. It creates less congestion in the defending end and attacks can be penetrated better with more space available.

kick outs beyond 40m: very good addition. created a lot of aerial battles and duals.

2 point arc: will influence the game a lot, particularly if strength of the wind increases/decreases etc. Th downside of it is that is completely devalues a goal.

solo and go: quicks the game. very difficulty for the defender though.

no back pass for the goalie: good addition too. created more pressing high up.

roaming goalie in attacking half: teams choice. Both teams adopted this on Saturday. Monaghan probably won the game as their keeper was better at being the 'spare man'. If this stays, there will be less 'natural' keepers in no. 1 and id imagine managers will revert to a midfielder with a good place ball kick.

overall it was a good open game with plenty of entertainment for the supporters.



Are you implying the ref will go out of his way to move the ball forward for dissent? Think its simple enough, players don't stop a quick solo/free and don't talk back to ref after he has given his decision and reason why. Not sure on the only captains rule but hey ho
If that were only so.
Some refs penalised the "stop a quick free" with dogmatic reference to this (nonsensical) answer offered by the FRC.

If I over-carry the ball and the referee calls a foul, can I not just drop the ball and get myself into a defensive position?

A. No. In this scenario if you don't "hand over" the ball by giving it directly to the nearest opposition player in a prompt and respectful manner, the referee will consider that you are purposefully delay play will advance the ball 50m 

I had no idea this was a rule!
So if I foul the ball on the 21, and the nearest opposition player is 10m away I have to go give him the ball and he can take a free from there? Not where the foul occurred?
If they're being strict about the rules, then that opposition player would have to carry the ball back 10m to where the original foul was, otherwise he's taking it from the wrong place and its a hop ball?

Holding the ball or throwing it away I get, but surely setting the ball down and moving on is the sensible rule.
There was a 50m advantage given to Tyrone on Sat night against Derry. Derry player was in around the Tyrone end line, was on the ground, 3 defenders around him/on him and he couldn't get up. Ref blows the free for overcarrying - fair enough. But he wasn't able to immediately get up as he had to wait for the defenders to get off him so the ref gave the 50m advantage. I thought that was harsh.
Back to the question asked of the FRC, ´If I overcarry the ball and the ref calls a foul can i not just put the ball on the ground and move away?´

The answer is in the question, that's what should happen, put the ball on the ground without delay and move away  and afaiu Jim Gavin post-weekend games, that's his opinion also.


The rule says you must hand the ball to your nearest opponent does it not? Common sense would say set the ball down and move away..

Cavan19

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 29, 2025, 03:11:34 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 29, 2025, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 29, 2025, 10:15:46 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2025, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2025, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: donelli on January 27, 2025, 03:55:52 PMI was at the Cavan Monaghan game at the weekend. Thoughts on the new rules:

1v1 throw in: irrelevant enough. makes no difference either way.

dissent rule: has to be binned straight away. The ref brought the ball up about 10 times for 'dissent', most of which are questionable. 50m is a ridiculous penalty and wont be managable at the club game as it gives the referee too much influence. By the 2nd half on Saturday, the crowd were actually laughing at the decisions for this farcical rule. 

the 3 inside: is workable. appears to be self policed by the players. It creates less congestion in the defending end and attacks can be penetrated better with more space available.

kick outs beyond 40m: very good addition. created a lot of aerial battles and duals.

2 point arc: will influence the game a lot, particularly if strength of the wind increases/decreases etc. Th downside of it is that is completely devalues a goal.

solo and go: quicks the game. very difficulty for the defender though.

no back pass for the goalie: good addition too. created more pressing high up.

roaming goalie in attacking half: teams choice. Both teams adopted this on Saturday. Monaghan probably won the game as their keeper was better at being the 'spare man'. If this stays, there will be less 'natural' keepers in no. 1 and id imagine managers will revert to a midfielder with a good place ball kick.

overall it was a good open game with plenty of entertainment for the supporters.



Are you implying the ref will go out of his way to move the ball forward for dissent? Think its simple enough, players don't stop a quick solo/free and don't talk back to ref after he has given his decision and reason why. Not sure on the only captains rule but hey ho
If that were only so.
Some refs penalised the "stop a quick free" with dogmatic reference to this (nonsensical) answer offered by the FRC.

If I over-carry the ball and the referee calls a foul, can I not just drop the ball and get myself into a defensive position?

A. No. In this scenario if you don't "hand over" the ball by giving it directly to the nearest opposition player in a prompt and respectful manner, the referee will consider that you are purposefully delay play will advance the ball 50m 

I had no idea this was a rule!
So if I foul the ball on the 21, and the nearest opposition player is 10m away I have to go give him the ball and he can take a free from there? Not where the foul occurred?
If they're being strict about the rules, then that opposition player would have to carry the ball back 10m to where the original foul was, otherwise he's taking it from the wrong place and its a hop ball?

Holding the ball or throwing it away I get, but surely setting the ball down and moving on is the sensible rule.
There was a 50m advantage given to Tyrone on Sat night against Derry. Derry player was in around the Tyrone end line, was on the ground, 3 defenders around him/on him and he couldn't get up. Ref blows the free for overcarrying - fair enough. But he wasn't able to immediately get up as he had to wait for the defenders to get off him so the ref gave the 50m advantage. I thought that was harsh.
Back to the question asked of the FRC, ´If I overcarry the ball and the ref calls a foul can i not just put the ball on the ground and move away?´

The answer is in the question, that's what should happen, put the ball on the ground without delay and move away  and afaiu Jim Gavin post-weekend games, that's his opinion also.


The rule says you must hand the ball to your nearest opponent does it not? Common sense would say set the ball down and move away..
Monaghan got a free the other night and as the referee was blowing the whistle the player kicked the ball and it went to a Cavan player 20 meters away who had no Monaghan player near him.

He has to run back with the ball and as he was doing it a Monaghan player ran in from the side and boxed the ball out of his hands. The referee then grabbed the ball and sprinted up the field like Usain Bolt to give Monaghan a handy two pointer.

Armagh18

Quote from: Cavan19 on January 29, 2025, 03:19:51 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 29, 2025, 03:11:34 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 29, 2025, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 29, 2025, 10:15:46 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2025, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2025, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: donelli on January 27, 2025, 03:55:52 PMI was at the Cavan Monaghan game at the weekend. Thoughts on the new rules:

1v1 throw in: irrelevant enough. makes no difference either way.

dissent rule: has to be binned straight away. The ref brought the ball up about 10 times for 'dissent', most of which are questionable. 50m is a ridiculous penalty and wont be managable at the club game as it gives the referee too much influence. By the 2nd half on Saturday, the crowd were actually laughing at the decisions for this farcical rule. 

the 3 inside: is workable. appears to be self policed by the players. It creates less congestion in the defending end and attacks can be penetrated better with more space available.

kick outs beyond 40m: very good addition. created a lot of aerial battles and duals.

2 point arc: will influence the game a lot, particularly if strength of the wind increases/decreases etc. Th downside of it is that is completely devalues a goal.

solo and go: quicks the game. very difficulty for the defender though.

no back pass for the goalie: good addition too. created more pressing high up.

roaming goalie in attacking half: teams choice. Both teams adopted this on Saturday. Monaghan probably won the game as their keeper was better at being the 'spare man'. If this stays, there will be less 'natural' keepers in no. 1 and id imagine managers will revert to a midfielder with a good place ball kick.

overall it was a good open game with plenty of entertainment for the supporters.



Are you implying the ref will go out of his way to move the ball forward for dissent? Think its simple enough, players don't stop a quick solo/free and don't talk back to ref after he has given his decision and reason why. Not sure on the only captains rule but hey ho
If that were only so.
Some refs penalised the "stop a quick free" with dogmatic reference to this (nonsensical) answer offered by the FRC.

If I over-carry the ball and the referee calls a foul, can I not just drop the ball and get myself into a defensive position?

A. No. In this scenario if you don't "hand over" the ball by giving it directly to the nearest opposition player in a prompt and respectful manner, the referee will consider that you are purposefully delay play will advance the ball 50m 

I had no idea this was a rule!
So if I foul the ball on the 21, and the nearest opposition player is 10m away I have to go give him the ball and he can take a free from there? Not where the foul occurred?
If they're being strict about the rules, then that opposition player would have to carry the ball back 10m to where the original foul was, otherwise he's taking it from the wrong place and its a hop ball?

Holding the ball or throwing it away I get, but surely setting the ball down and moving on is the sensible rule.
There was a 50m advantage given to Tyrone on Sat night against Derry. Derry player was in around the Tyrone end line, was on the ground, 3 defenders around him/on him and he couldn't get up. Ref blows the free for overcarrying - fair enough. But he wasn't able to immediately get up as he had to wait for the defenders to get off him so the ref gave the 50m advantage. I thought that was harsh.
Back to the question asked of the FRC, ´If I overcarry the ball and the ref calls a foul can i not just put the ball on the ground and move away?´

The answer is in the question, that's what should happen, put the ball on the ground without delay and move away  and afaiu Jim Gavin post-weekend games, that's his opinion also.


The rule says you must hand the ball to your nearest opponent does it not? Common sense would say set the ball down and move away..
Monaghan got a free the other night and as the referee was blowing the whistle the player kicked the ball and it went to a Cavan player 20 meters away who had no Monaghan player near him.

He has to run back with the ball and as he was doing it a Monaghan player ran in from the side and boxed the ball out of his hands. The referee then grabbed the ball and sprinted up the field like Usain Bolt to give Monaghan a handy two pointer.
Daft isn't it?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 29, 2025, 03:29:51 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on January 29, 2025, 03:19:51 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 29, 2025, 03:11:34 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 29, 2025, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 29, 2025, 10:15:46 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2025, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2025, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: donelli on January 27, 2025, 03:55:52 PMI was at the Cavan Monaghan game at the weekend. Thoughts on the new rules:

1v1 throw in: irrelevant enough. makes no difference either way.

dissent rule: has to be binned straight away. The ref brought the ball up about 10 times for 'dissent', most of which are questionable. 50m is a ridiculous penalty and wont be managable at the club game as it gives the referee too much influence. By the 2nd half on Saturday, the crowd were actually laughing at the decisions for this farcical rule. 

the 3 inside: is workable. appears to be self policed by the players. It creates less congestion in the defending end and attacks can be penetrated better with more space available.

kick outs beyond 40m: very good addition. created a lot of aerial battles and duals.

2 point arc: will influence the game a lot, particularly if strength of the wind increases/decreases etc. Th downside of it is that is completely devalues a goal.

solo and go: quicks the game. very difficulty for the defender though.

no back pass for the goalie: good addition too. created more pressing high up.

roaming goalie in attacking half: teams choice. Both teams adopted this on Saturday. Monaghan probably won the game as their keeper was better at being the 'spare man'. If this stays, there will be less 'natural' keepers in no. 1 and id imagine managers will revert to a midfielder with a good place ball kick.

overall it was a good open game with plenty of entertainment for the supporters.



Are you implying the ref will go out of his way to move the ball forward for dissent? Think its simple enough, players don't stop a quick solo/free and don't talk back to ref after he has given his decision and reason why. Not sure on the only captains rule but hey ho
If that were only so.
Some refs penalised the "stop a quick free" with dogmatic reference to this (nonsensical) answer offered by the FRC.

If I over-carry the ball and the referee calls a foul, can I not just drop the ball and get myself into a defensive position?

A. No. In this scenario if you don't "hand over" the ball by giving it directly to the nearest opposition player in a prompt and respectful manner, the referee will consider that you are purposefully delay play will advance the ball 50m 

I had no idea this was a rule!
So if I foul the ball on the 21, and the nearest opposition player is 10m away I have to go give him the ball and he can take a free from there? Not where the foul occurred?
If they're being strict about the rules, then that opposition player would have to carry the ball back 10m to where the original foul was, otherwise he's taking it from the wrong place and its a hop ball?

Holding the ball or throwing it away I get, but surely setting the ball down and moving on is the sensible rule.
There was a 50m advantage given to Tyrone on Sat night against Derry. Derry player was in around the Tyrone end line, was on the ground, 3 defenders around him/on him and he couldn't get up. Ref blows the free for overcarrying - fair enough. But he wasn't able to immediately get up as he had to wait for the defenders to get off him so the ref gave the 50m advantage. I thought that was harsh.
Back to the question asked of the FRC, ´If I overcarry the ball and the ref calls a foul can i not just put the ball on the ground and move away?´

The answer is in the question, that's what should happen, put the ball on the ground without delay and move away  and afaiu Jim Gavin post-weekend games, that's his opinion also.


The rule says you must hand the ball to your nearest opponent does it not? Common sense would say set the ball down and move away..
Monaghan got a free the other night and as the referee was blowing the whistle the player kicked the ball and it went to a Cavan player 20 meters away who had no Monaghan player near him.

He has to run back with the ball and as he was doing it a Monaghan player ran in from the side and boxed the ball out of his hands. The referee then grabbed the ball and sprinted up the field like Usain Bolt to give Monaghan a handy two pointer.
Daft isn't it?

Plenty of daft decisions before rules changed and there will daft decisions with the new ones
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

AustinPowers

Handing the ball back gives  an instant advantage to  opponents.

What you might see  happening is, eg.  a player is blown for over carrying ,  he might be instructed to hit the ground  with an "injury" , so the ball can't be handed back. Therefore delaying  a quick  attack.

Could a referee book or move it forward 50 yards, if the  player  blown for over carrying is  now on the ground injured? Whether real or fake?

Cavan19

Quote from: AustinPowers on January 29, 2025, 06:39:16 PMHanding the ball back gives  an instant advantage to  opponents.

What you might see  happening is, eg.  a player is blown for over carrying ,  he might be instructed to hit the ground  with an "injury" , so the ball can't be handed back. Therefore delaying  a quick  attack.

Could a referee book or move it forward 50 yards, if the  player  blown for over carrying is  now on the ground injured? Whether real or fake?

Just on injuries i think they should play on if a player is "injured" and just let the physio on to deal with them. I don't see the point in stopping play everytime some lad decides to lie down holding their head after getting tapped on the shoulder.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: AustinPowers on January 29, 2025, 06:39:16 PMHanding the ball back gives  an instant advantage to  opponents.

What you might see  happening is, eg.  a player is blown for over carrying ,  he might be instructed to hit the ground  with an "injury" , so the ball can't be handed back. Therefore delaying  a quick  attack.

Could a referee book or move it forward 50 yards, if the  player  blown for over carrying is  now on the ground injured? Whether real or fake?

If he goes down 'injured' after he's pulled for over carrying I'm booking him for feigning an injury
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Brendan

Quote from: Cavan19 on January 29, 2025, 07:13:41 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 29, 2025, 06:39:16 PMHanding the ball back gives  an instant advantage to  opponents.

What you might see  happening is, eg.  a player is blown for over carrying ,  he might be instructed to hit the ground  with an "injury" , so the ball can't be handed back. Therefore delaying  a quick  attack.

Could a referee book or move it forward 50 yards, if the  player  blown for over carrying is  now on the ground injured? Whether real or fake?

Just on injuries i think they should play on if a player is "injured" and just let the physio on to deal with them. I don't see the point in stopping play everytime some lad decides to lie down holding their head after getting tapped on the shoulder.

The unenforced rule saying if a physio has to come onthen the player must leave the field and re enter at the half way line in the next break in play should come in

AustinPowers

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 08:32:12 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 29, 2025, 06:39:16 PMHanding the ball back gives  an instant advantage to  opponents.

What you might see  happening is, eg.  a player is blown for over carrying ,  he might be instructed to hit the ground  with an "injury" , so the ball can't be handed back. Therefore delaying  a quick  attack.

Could a referee book or move it forward 50 yards, if the  player  blown for over carrying is  now on the ground injured? Whether real or fake?

If he goes down 'injured' after he's pulled for over carrying I'm booking him for feigning an injury

What if it looks like a  head injury? Would you still book him?  Surely you have to take a head injury  seriously? Whether real or not

Different scenario, but ...remember the Dublin keeper v Sean  O'Shea penalty? He was clearly feigning injury, yet  wasn't booked.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: AustinPowers on January 29, 2025, 09:36:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 08:32:12 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 29, 2025, 06:39:16 PMHanding the ball back gives  an instant advantage to  opponents.

What you might see  happening is, eg.  a player is blown for over carrying ,  he might be instructed to hit the ground  with an "injury" , so the ball can't be handed back. Therefore delaying  a quick  attack.

Could a referee book or move it forward 50 yards, if the  player  blown for over carrying is  now on the ground injured? Whether real or fake?

If he goes down 'injured' after he's pulled for over carrying I'm booking him for feigning an injury

What if it looks like a  head injury? Would you still book him?  Surely you have to take a head injury  seriously? Whether real or not

Different scenario, but ...remember the Dublin keeper v Sean  O'Shea penalty? He was clearly feigning injury, yet  wasn't booked.

Wise up, but he runs with the ball and all of a sudden has a head injury?

He'll be booked for feigning and being a dick
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

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What is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?