Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[thebigfullforward]

Congress changed the rules.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the FRC introduced the new rules, not Congress.  Plus there is a small group of decision makers now trialing 4 pt goals and different hand-kick passing rules.  Congress gets a yes or no vote.  They don't initiate anything...except to give its permission to change the rules.

I understand the entire GAA association will have the final say on the changes, which is good.  However my cynical side has seen a season long media propaganda campaign in support of all the rule changes.  Manufactured consent?

Conspiracy theorists have really come into their own since Covid 😄
I go to a lot of club games and an amount of county games and know of no body of supporters against the new rules.. glad to see a bit of football played. Seems to be a few here vehemently against the rules and railing against everything just about.
 

That's strangely the opposite of my experience where most of the people I talk to at matches are opposed to at least most of the new rules. In fact I don't think I've met anyone in support of all of them.

Same as that. Haven't spoke to much people who are in favour off all of them either. The 3 up rule gets spoken about a fair bit. Hard to follow at club game some times. Ref just turns around and suddenly it's a free in to a team. Also the fact that it doesn't speed the game up at all and some refs just flat out ignore it and tell a player to get back to the half to have 3 up/4 back

[Truthsayer]

Congress changed the rules.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the FRC introduced the new rules, not Congress.  Plus there is a small group of decision makers now trialing 4 pt goals and different hand-kick passing rules.  Congress gets a yes or no vote.  They don't initiate anything...except to give its permission to change the rules.

I understand the entire GAA association will have the final say on the changes, which is good.  However my cynical side has seen a season long media propaganda campaign in support of all the rule changes.  Manufactured consent?

Conspiracy theorists have really come into their own since Covid 😄
I go to a lot of club games and an amount of county games and know of no body of supporters against the new rules.. glad to see a bit of football played. Seems to be a few here vehemently against the rules and railing against everything just about.
 

That's strangely the opposite of my experience where most of the people I talk to at matches are opposed to at least most of the new rules. In fact I don't think I've met anyone in support of all of them.

You should move to Tyrone! We love a bit of football 

[FermGael]

Complete shambles yesterday in the league final in Fermanagh

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/absolute-disgrace-anger-gaa-county-32293317?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwMP6ZxjbGNrAw_pk2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEee0UGxAryAVndd3pq9VrDmHC_Ru0SitM4Tj-ElNSK3uhC2YzM6FxwfitXwCE_aem_vHKhMcWonAEydgCzutybUw#Echobox=1755464565

[marty34]

Complete shambles yesterday in the league final in Fermanagh

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/absolute-disgrace-anger-gaa-county-32293317?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwMP6ZxjbGNrAw_pk2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEee0UGxAryAVndd3pq9VrDmHC_Ru0SitM4Tj-ElNSK3uhC2YzM6FxwfitXwCE_aem_vHKhMcWonAEydgCzutybUw#Echobox=1755464565

That's not a great look in fairness.

Not one bad decision but two - straight after each other.

[Armagh18]

Complete shambles yesterday in the league final in Fermanagh

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/absolute-disgrace-anger-gaa-county-32293317?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwMP6ZxjbGNrAw_pk2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEee0UGxAryAVndd3pq9VrDmHC_Ru0SitM4Tj-ElNSK3uhC2YzM6FxwfitXwCE_aem_vHKhMcWonAEydgCzutybUw#Echobox=1755464565

That's not a great look in fairness.

Not one bad decision but two - straight after each other.

That is shocking. Different if it was borderline but the player is clearly well inside the arc both times.

[Milltown Row2]

Complete shambles yesterday in the league final in Fermanagh

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/absolute-disgrace-anger-gaa-county-32293317?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwMP6ZxjbGNrAw_pk2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEee0UGxAryAVndd3pq9VrDmHC_Ru0SitM4Tj-ElNSK3uhC2YzM6FxwfitXwCE_aem_vHKhMcWonAEydgCzutybUw#Echobox=1755464565

That's not a great look in fairness.

Not one bad decision but two - straight after each other.

That is shocking. Different if it was borderline but the player is clearly well inside the arc both times.

Unless you are up to that part of the pitch you won't see it at ground level. I've done the line and I wouldn't be able to call two points unless I'm on the pitch nearby. Same goes for umpires, near impossible to see depending on the grounds, but that's two in a row, the lines from high up are clear enough to see, but I don't think its been done on purpose, and if there is a call for that to be replayed there couldn't be any complaints

[Armagh18]

Complete shambles yesterday in the league final in Fermanagh

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/absolute-disgrace-anger-gaa-county-32293317?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwMP6ZxjbGNrAw_pk2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEee0UGxAryAVndd3pq9VrDmHC_Ru0SitM4Tj-ElNSK3uhC2YzM6FxwfitXwCE_aem_vHKhMcWonAEydgCzutybUw#Echobox=1755464565

That's not a great look in fairness.

Not one bad decision but two - straight after each other.

That is shocking. Different if it was borderline but the player is clearly well inside the arc both times.

Unless you are up to that part of the pitch you won't see it at ground level. I've done the line and I wouldn't be able to call two points unless I'm on the pitch nearby. Same goes for umpires, near impossible to see depending on the grounds, but that's two in a row, the lines from high up are clear enough to see, but I don't think its been done on purpose, and if there is a call for that to be replayed there couldn't be any complaints

Yeah true, just another drawback of that 2 point rule especially at club level.

[thebigfullforward]

Complete shambles yesterday in the league final in Fermanagh

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/absolute-disgrace-anger-gaa-county-32293317?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwMP6ZxjbGNrAw_pk2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEee0UGxAryAVndd3pq9VrDmHC_Ru0SitM4Tj-ElNSK3uhC2YzM6FxwfitXwCE_aem_vHKhMcWonAEydgCzutybUw#Echobox=1755464565

That's not a great look in fairness.

Not one bad decision but two - straight after each other.

That is shocking. Different if it was borderline but the player is clearly well inside the arc both times.

Unless you are up to that part of the pitch you won't see it at ground level. I've done the line and I wouldn't be able to call two points unless I'm on the pitch nearby. Same goes for umpires, near impossible to see depending on the grounds, but that's two in a row, the lines from high up are clear enough to see, but I don't think its been done on purpose, and if there is a call for that to be replayed there couldn't be any complaints

Have done umpire a few times this year and it's impossible to make out the arc. If the ref is the same 20-25m distance from the ball I would say it's also impossible to see. This is why I wasn't a fan of the rules at club level. It's just not possible for refs to do their job properly and ends up with things like this happening

[Wildweasel74]

I seen it happen earlier in the yr and it happen again. Unless u slightly up at a height to the pitch, these calls are difficult if the ref is too far away.

[David McKeown]

I took in three club championship matches over the weekend.  I don't think the new rules aided them at all.  That said I am not sure you could blame the rules themselves for what I was seeing but in all three games 1 intermediate and 2 senior, the team trailing wasted an lot of opportunities trying for 2 pointers that they werent suited to go for rather than working the score.  In Armagh Dromintee hit 21 shots wide or short in the match, the majority of which were attempts from outside the arc. I dont think the rules can really be blamed for that and I can understand why the clubs did it but I think its going to take a year or two to properly gauge the impact of the new rules at club level when all teams are properly savy to the rules.   

[Wildweasel74]

G seen the videos there, that bad,Ref and lineman should picked that up easy. Who told the umpire to raise the 2pt flag? The ref?

[Milltown Row2]

G seen the videos there, that bad,Ref and lineman should picked that up easy. Who told the umpire to raise the 2pt flag? The ref.

The ref would have signalled with the two hands raised. Umpire raises the orange flag.

As been said it's not a gimme to see from sideline or as umpire , ref's need to be on top of it then

[marty34]

G seen the videos there, that bad,Ref and lineman should picked that up easy. Who told the umpire to raise the 2pt flag? The ref.

The ref would have signalled with the two hands raised. Umpire raises the orange flag.

As been said it's not a gimme to see from sideline or as umpire , ref's need to be on top of it then

Would it help any if the arc was a different colour from the D?

I think it might help a bit. Better than white anyway.

[Armagh18]

G seen the videos there, that bad,Ref and lineman should picked that up easy. Who told the umpire to raise the 2pt flag? The ref.

The ref would have signalled with the two hands raised. Umpire raises the orange flag.

As been said it's not a gimme to see from sideline or as umpire , ref's need to be on top of it then

Would it help any if the arc was a different colour from the D?

I think it might help a bit. Better than white anyway.

Black? What else stands out on grass?

You're going to give every groundsman in Ireland a heart attack lol

[marty34]

G seen the videos there, that bad,Ref and lineman should picked that up easy. Who told the umpire to raise the 2pt flag? The ref.

The ref would have signalled with the two hands raised. Umpire raises the orange flag.

As been said it's not a gimme to see from sideline or as umpire , ref's need to be on top of it then

Would it help any if the arc was a different colour from the D?

I think it might help a bit. Better than white anyway.

Black? What else stands out on grass?

You're going to give every groundsman in Ireland a heart attack lol

Maybe orange....lol.

Just think it would be better then white anyway.