Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[tyrone08]

I think Malachy O'Rourke has gone well past being an outsider..  living in Tyrone over 30 years and won county championships with Errigal as a player and manager. Wouldn't be first former Fermanagh player to manage Tyrone... John Donnelly who won a heap of O'Neill Cups with Trillick.

Do you think he would do it as a true volunteer like Mickey, Fergal and Brian and of course Paul Devlin or would his loyalty come with an £80000 clause?

You think mickey wasnt getting paid?

[Truthsayer]

I think Malachy O'Rourke has gone well past being an outsider..  living in Tyrone over 30 years and won county championships with Errigal as a player and manager. Wouldn't be first former Fermanagh player to manage Tyrone... John Donnelly who won a heap of O'Neill Cups with Trillick.

Do you think he would do it as a true volunteer like Mickey, Fergal and Brian and of course Paul Devlin or would his loyalty come with an £80000 clause?

You think mickey wasnt getting paid?

100% 👍  or recent hurling managers?

[Jerome]

I think Malachy O'Rourke has gone well past being an outsider..  living in Tyrone over 30 years and won county championships with Errigal as a player and manager. Wouldn't be first former Fermanagh player to manage Tyrone... John Donnelly who won a heap of O'Neill Cups with Trillick.

Do you think he would do it as a true volunteer like Mickey, Fergal and Brian and of course Paul Devlin or would his loyalty come with an £80000 clause?

You think mickey wasnt getting paid?

Mickey brought plenty of financial strain through the development of facilities, team related expenses such as bonding, subsistence, medical and testing but he was 100% not getting any payment directly for coaching Tyrone senior team at the cost of the county. Whether he is getting looked after from someone outside the county board structures, as many say, we can't know for sure. An outside appointment will command a huge fee as an employee plus all of the expenses required to already run the team. Whenever we have internal people wanting the job having earned their stripes at the underage system, just like all our managers for the last 20 years, then I think there is no need to look elsewhere, there lies the difference with the hurling appointment.

If the decision makers do decide to go down the route of rejecting the appointment of PD and his team in favour of bringing in an employee then in my opinion, many will disagree I'm sure,  it is mud in the face of every volunteer within the game and totally against the ethos of the GAA.

Every defeat and poor performance over the years was ridiculed by every supporter, part and parcel, imagine the uproar if a paid professional can't get it right year 1 you only have to look at Derry this year- won a national league but when it fell to pieces in the championship the P45 written, an appointment that left a sour taste in the county. We do the same having scorned our own in the process then shame on us.

[sam03/05]

You think mickey wasnt getting paid?
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So a guy who retired from teaching around 2003 at about 50 years old, and never worked for the next 20 years - how did he sustain himself ? Of course there was payment.

Also O Rourke is not really an outsider, he played and managed Errigal and has lived in Ballygawley his adult lfe, with kids etc, that's not an outside manager really.

[square_ball]

I think Malachy O'Rourke has gone well past being an outsider..  living in Tyrone over 30 years and won county championships with Errigal as a player and manager. Wouldn't be first former Fermanagh player to manage Tyrone... John Donnelly who won a heap of O'Neill Cups with Trillick.

Do you think he would do it as a true volunteer like Mickey, Fergal and Brian and of course Paul Devlin or would his loyalty come with an £80000 clause?

You think mickey wasnt getting paid?

Mickey brought plenty of financial strain through the development of facilities, team related expenses such as bonding, subsistence, medical and testing but he was 100% not getting any payment directly for coaching Tyrone senior team at the cost of the county. Whether he is getting looked after from someone outside the county board structures, as many say, we can't know for sure. An outside appointment will command a huge fee as an employee plus all of the expenses required to already run the team. Whenever we have internal people wanting the job having earned their stripes at the underage system, just like all our managers for the last 20 years, then I think there is no need to look elsewhere, there lies the difference with the hurling appointment.

If the decision makers do decide to go down the route of rejecting the appointment of PD and his team in favour of bringing in an employee then in my opinion, many will disagree I'm sure,  it is mud in the face of every volunteer within the game and totally against the ethos of the GAA.

Do you not think this will also be the case too if O'Rourke was appointed? It will be the exact same scenario as you have just outlined. There's plenty of backers in Tyrone who would be willing to fund such an appointment.

[HokeyPokey]

I think O'Rourke would be a shrewd appointment. O'Rourke has plenty of strong ties and bonds with Tyrone, he understands Tyrone and Tyrone football.

Yes, an ideal candidate would be Tyrone through and through, but there's no obvious candidates. There's too much talent in Tyrone to see it go to waste. These players shouldn't be let go to waste because of being thran and prideful.

There's all the ingredients there for another great Tyrone team.

[Truthsayer]

I think O'Rourke would be a shrewd appointment. O'Rourke has plenty of strong ties and bonds with Tyrone, he understands Tyrone and Tyrone football.

Yes, an ideal candidate would be Tyrone through and through, but there's no obvious candidates. There's too much talent in Tyrone to see it go to waste. These players shouldn't be let go to waste because of being thran and prideful.

There's all the ingredients there for another great Tyrone team.

What is 'Tyrone through and through'? Won O'Neill Cups with Errigal as player and manager, living here bout 33 years; longer than most of the players.

[HokeyPokey]

I think O'Rourke would be a shrewd appointment. O'Rourke has plenty of strong ties and bonds with Tyrone, he understands Tyrone and Tyrone football.

Yes, an ideal candidate would be Tyrone through and through, but there's no obvious candidates. There's too much talent in Tyrone to see it go to waste. These players shouldn't be let go to waste because of being thran and prideful.

There's all the ingredients there for another great Tyrone team.

What is 'Tyrone through and through'? Won O'Neill Cups with Errigal as player and manager, living here bout 33 years; longer than most of the players.

Does O'Rourke describe himself as a Tyrone man?

[Truthsayer]

I think O'Rourke would be a shrewd appointment. O'Rourke has plenty of strong ties and bonds with Tyrone, he understands Tyrone and Tyrone football.

Yes, an ideal candidate would be Tyrone through and through, but there's no obvious candidates. There's too much talent in Tyrone to see it go to waste. These players shouldn't be let go to waste because of being thran and prideful.

There's all the ingredients there for another great Tyrone team.

What is 'Tyrone through and through'? Won O'Neill Cups with Errigal as player and manager, living here bout 33 years; longer than most of the players.

Does O'Rourke describe himself as a Tyrone man?

I don't know. He's lived longer in Tyrone than anywhere else? What's the criteria to being from Tyrone?

[Easttyrone23]

I think O'Rourke would be a shrewd appointment. O'Rourke has plenty of strong ties and bonds with Tyrone, he understands Tyrone and Tyrone football.

Yes, an ideal candidate would be Tyrone through and through, but there's no obvious candidates. There's too much talent in Tyrone to see it go to waste. These players shouldn't be let go to waste because of being thran and prideful.

There's all the ingredients there for another great Tyrone team.

What is 'Tyrone through and through'? Won O'Neill Cups with Errigal as player and manager, living here bout 33 years; longer than most of the players.

Does O'Rourke describe himself as a Tyrone man?

Does Mickey Harte describe himself as a Tyrone man? Or Derry man or Louth or Offaly?. Do kerrymen question Paddy Tallys intentions because he's not from Kerry? Do Armagh question Kieran Donaghy? Etc etc.

Do you think when Glen hired him they worried that he wasn't a Maghera man? He's the best candidate available and the exact high profile name we need to help bring that bit of spark back to the supporters that has clearly been missing over the last couple of years.

[Truthsayer]

I think O'Rourke would be a shrewd appointment. O'Rourke has plenty of strong ties and bonds with Tyrone, he understands Tyrone and Tyrone football.

Yes, an ideal candidate would be Tyrone through and through, but there's no obvious candidates. There's too much talent in Tyrone to see it go to waste. These players shouldn't be let go to waste because of being thran and prideful.

There's all the ingredients there for another great Tyrone team.

What is 'Tyrone through and through'? Won O'Neill Cups with Errigal as player and manager, living here bout 33 years; longer than most of the players.

Does O'Rourke describe himself as a Tyrone man?

Does Mickey Harte describe himself as a Tyrone man? Or Derry man or Louth or Offaly?. Do kerrymen question Paddy Tallys intentions because he's not from Kerry? Do Armagh question Kieran Donaghy? Etc etc.

Do you think when Glen hired him they worried that he wasn't a Maghera man? He's the best candidate available and the exact high profile name we need to help bring that bit of spark back to the supporters that has clearly been missing over the last couple of years.

While I also hope he gets appointed, I would see O'Rourke as having a huge affinity to Tyrone unlike the ones you mentioned above who don't even live in those counties. He's been here decades, affiliated with a Tyrone club for decades and is often at club games here when he doesn't have a game elsewhere. Lives closer to Gervaghy than the players!..

[Moonshine]

Paul Devlin in?

Applications are valid until Tuesday.
Paul Devlin has submitted his interest.
For over 20 years now Tyrone have had a policy where suggessful underage county managers graduate to the senior role.

Deviating from that policy to employ at outside man, who has no more love for Tyrone than he would for Derry, Kerry or anyone else, at a ransom of money doesn't seem likely and I don't think that it would sit right with any true Gael to disrepect our own people that way, what message would that be from the county board to future underage management teams.

Such nonsense

[square_ball]

The thing with O'Rourke is it's a total clean slate for everyone. No favourites from working with players at u20. Everyone starts from zero and you're in the team on merit.

I wouldn't be against Paul Devlin getting it but if O'Rourke is available I think we need to go out and get him.

[God14]

The thing with O'Rourke is it's a total clean slate for everyone. No favourites from working with players at u20. Everyone starts from zero and you're in the team on merit.

I wouldn't be against Paul Devlin getting it but if O'Rourke is available I think we need to go out and get him.

Good post. Initially I wanted PD in, but as time goes on, can't escape the fact that MOR is the better fit at this time

[RedHand88]

I think O'Rourke would be a shrewd appointment. O'Rourke has plenty of strong ties and bonds with Tyrone, he understands Tyrone and Tyrone football.

Yes, an ideal candidate would be Tyrone through and through, but there's no obvious candidates. There's too much talent in Tyrone to see it go to waste. These players shouldn't be let go to waste because of being thran and prideful.

There's all the ingredients there for another great Tyrone team.

What is 'Tyrone through and through'? Won O'Neill Cups with Errigal as player and manager, living here bout 33 years; longer than most of the players.

Does O'Rourke describe himself as a Tyrone man?

Who cares??