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I can't see Limerick staying on year after. top for a sustained period as there are at least a half dozen teams of roughly equal merit.
In no particular  order, Galway, Tipp, Kilkenny, Clare, Waterford or Wexford, with Dublin as a long shot, could win next year.

Nah, it's between Limerick and Galway for me with Waterford next. The rest are a bit off that standard IMO.

Not sure about Galway - i think they need an injection of youth and pace.  The thing is that they have loads of talent coming though - serious underage talent.

Tipp are similar to Galway - a good few lads have won a couple of All-Ireland and the squad needs a freshen up but they have 3 or 4 lads who'll come straight in also.

Fresh impetus is always a requirement but for my mind Galway went toe to toe with Limerick the longest and were hit with Mannions injury as he was having a big impact on their gameplan and it kinda went astray a bit when he had to leave the field. The extra weeks rest stood to Limerick, Galway had a tough slog against Tipp on a sodden Gaelic grounds the Saturday before.

With both fresh I think Galway would be best placed to give Limerick a serious rattle.

I always though Limerick were holding Galway at arm's length - never looked like they were going to beat them.

Galway were very lucky to beat Tipp - Harte, of all people, got the goal very near the end - at the death.  Up to that, it was 50/50.  Two similar matched teams.

Probably main point from that game was the sending off of Barret.  Had he not got the second yellow, Tipp would have won I think.  There's very little between Tipp and Galway, as recent games have shown.

Limerick are a good bit ahead, especially in age profile.  They only need one or two to break onto the panel.  Look at their bench - Peter Casey, Pat Ryan and Reidy etc. Never mind the two lads in defence coming back into the full back line. Flanagan, on as a sub in recent games but stars and get full forward and keeps his place.  Serious competition for places.

Can't say the same for Galway or Tipp.  Tipp and Galway need a serious injection of youth.

You'd presume with galway winning 3 in a row minors 17-19 and potentially the  20202 u20 and with tipp wining the u21 in 18 and u20 in 19 the injection of youth is on its way.

Was the Garda who shot him from an armed response unit or what was his rank?

I'd be very wary of some of the apes down south who are Gardai being allowed carry guns personally.

Proper order that your wary

The Gardaí have a low opinion of nordie shinner scum

[the Republic of Ireland]

You won't be wanting a United Ireland with us in the south then?

Fair enough

You see this is where the Free Staters need a reality check. It's not your state.

It's a new Ireland to replace the two rotten states that partition brought about.

You really hate the south don't you,

calling us all free staters

Telling us the Republic of Ireland is not our state

If your indiicative of what even a small percentage of northern "nationalism" feels about the south

We might as well never have even a discussion about a United Ireland

the state is a republic of Ireland, a bastardized one obviously but clearly not the Republic

thankfully the Irish public have more sense than this board who are overwhelmingly partitionist

thinking about money when it comes to national sovereignty 

Free State ?

Rotten State?

Now Bastardized state?

And yet you keep insulting us from the south

You are more partionist than anyone here pal

Partition is reality unfortunately and it created two rotten states, one created along sectarian lines to keep one side of the community down, the other with a motive to create an elite ruling class who purged all assets and resources to enrich themselves and aligned private interests. The Free State's record on the Troubles and the blind eye it turned to the atrocities carried out in the O6 is abhorrent and it should be a great cause of shame for any citizen from the Free State with how they abandoned their northern brethern.

That seems to be an uncomfortable truth for guys like you, Ross and Sid and all the airbrushing in the world can't turn back the hands of time.

Keep going son

You are doing a great job of convincing me not to vote for a United Ireland

It's fairy obvious you don't want one either

FFS - I'd say lads like you and the others mentioned would have no intention of voting for a re-united Ireland.

This fake Trumpism of "you're doing a great job of convincing me NOT to..."  FFS.

I don't have to show my Republican credentials to you or anyone else

Nordies whinging about being left behind by the big bad south.

It's a pity we couldn't get men up to ye in 1919/20 to drive the Brits out seeing as ye weren't men enough to do it yereselves

[the Republic of Ireland]

You won't be wanting a United Ireland with us in the south then?

Fair enough

You see this is where the Free Staters need a reality check. It's not your state.

It's a new Ireland to replace the two rotten states that partition brought about.

You really hate the south don't you,

calling us all free staters

Telling us the Republic of Ireland is not our state

If your indiicative of what even a small percentage of northern "nationalism" feels about the south

We might as well never have even a discussion about a United Ireland

the state is a republic of Ireland, a bastardized one obviously but clearly not the Republic

thankfully the Irish public have more sense than this board who are overwhelmingly partitionist

thinking about money when it comes to national sovereignty 

Free State ?

Rotten State?

Now Bastardized state?

And yet you keep insulting us from the south

You are more partionist than anyone here pal

Partition is reality unfortunately and it created two rotten states, one created along sectarian lines to keep one side of the community down, the other with a motive to create an elite ruling class who purged all assets and resources to enrich themselves and aligned private interests. The Free State's record on the Troubles and the blind eye it turned to the atrocities carried out in the O6 is abhorrent and it should be a great cause of shame for any citizen from the Free State with how they abandoned their northern brethern.

That seems to be an uncomfortable truth for guys like you, Ross and Sid and all the airbrushing in the world can't turn back the hands of time.

Keep going son

You are doing a great job of convincing me not to vote for a United Ireland

It's fairy obvious you don't want one either

[the Republic of Ireland]

You won't be wanting a United Ireland with us in the south then?

Fair enough

You see this is where the Free Staters need a reality check. It's not your state.

It's a new Ireland to replace the two rotten states that partition brought about.

You really hate the south don't you,

calling us all free staters

Telling us the Republic of Ireland is not our state

If your indiicative of what even a small percentage of northern "nationalism" feels about the south

We might as well never have even a discussion about a United Ireland

the state is a republic of Ireland, a bastardized one obviously but clearly not the Republic

thankfully the Irish public have more sense than this board who are overwhelmingly partitionist

thinking about money when it comes to national sovereignty 

Free State ?

Rotten State?

Now Bastardized state?

And yet you keep insulting us from the south

You are more partionist than anyone here pal

You won't be wanting a United Ireland with us in the south then?

Fair enough

You see this is where the Free Staters need a reality check. It's not your state.

It's a new Ireland to replace the two rotten states that partition brought about.

You really hate the south don't you,

calling us all free staters

Telling us the Republic of Ireland is not our state

If your indiicative of what even a small percentage of northern "nationalism" feels about the south

We might as well never have even a discussion about a United Ireland

Ah, so you do want oppression of women!

You didn't answer about the LGBTQ+ community

Bland PR-like statements don't cut it, especially when accompanied by US evangelical style craziness

Nope, I respect how valuable human life is unlike you.

That would obviously explain your support for the PIRA 

Clearly as they were fighting a government that routinely opened fire on unarmed civilians because they were taking to the streets to demand their civil rights.

The free state establishment has much blood on its hands when it comes to the troubles.

Those 644 civilians the PIRA killed were key members of that government of course

The "elite", or something

To cite dead civilians on the streets of Derry as a legitimate justification for 644 other dead civilians is Orwellian

You're pontificating about civilians being killed when you're the only poster on here who defended the IRA that won your rotten state its independence going around murdering civilians.

You are at odds with yourself here, as I predicted, you have routinely shown yourself to be morally bankrupt once again.

Rotten state, really ? Go Angelo , obviously another shinner dim wit displaying exactly why SF will never be the most suitable party to lead our drive for UI

Absolutely a rotten state.

Imagine a state that covers up an atrocity like the Dublin-Monaghan bombing, the mass murder of its own citizens, who consistently turned a blind to the British state terrorism that was happening miles away from its own border on its own people. The same people who were ignoring these things were also happy to turn a blind eye to child abuse, were happy to flog its citizens so they could enrich people Larry Goodman, Denis O'Brien and the widespread corruption FFG engaged in.

You seem to be quite ignorant to the workings of FFG, probably because your only concern is to bash SF with unsubstantiated, anecdotal stories.

You won't be wanting a United Ireland with us in the south then?

Fair enough

Ah, so you do want oppression of women!

You didn't answer about the LGBTQ+ community

Bland PR-like statements don't cut it, especially when accompanied by US evangelical style craziness

Nope, I respect how valuable human life is unlike you.

That would obviously explain your support for the PIRA 

Clearly as they were fighting a government that routinely opened fire on unarmed civilians because they were taking to the streets to demand their civil rights.

The free state establishment has much blood on its hands when it comes to the troubles.

Those 644 civilians the PIRA killed were key members of that government of course

The "elite", or something

To cite dead civilians on the streets of Derry as a legitimate justification for 644 other dead civilians is Orwellian

You're pontificating about civilians being killed when you're the only poster on here who defended the IRA that won your rotten state its independence going around murdering civilians.

You are at odds with yourself here, as I predicted, you have routinely shown yourself to be morally bankrupt once again.

So the Republic of Ireland is in your words a "Rotten state"?

Can I take it then you won't want to be a part of a United Ireland then?

You've more in common in denigrating the Republic of Ireland with Jim Alister than you do with me.

A UI doesn't = ROI + NI. I dont want NI to be merged into ROI structures, I want a New Ireland.

You described us in the south as being part of a "rotten state"

Is insulting us part of the grand plan to make us vote for a United ireland after the unity vote is won in the North?

I presumed we were all on the same side,maybe we ain't

1. No, that was Angelo, I was jumping on a point just.
2. I don't ever expect to see a UI. In the confines of a polling booth I wouldn't be convinced that ROI voters would vote for it,  I also think there's a huge number of 'nationalists' in NI who would do the same tbh - nevermind the Unionist population.
3. If Scotland goes the chances improve, but then the New Ireland conversation has to be had. I dont see the ROI being comfortable giving up it's structure to accommodate the New Ireland.

Mea culpa

Polls have consistently shown a majority in favor of a UI amongst southern voters,granted its opinion polls but it's the best indicator of what we've got.

The books would have to be opened on the NI economy something the British are very reticent to do

How much are they paying every year to keep the North afloat

Is it £5bn,£10bn,£15bn per annum?

This is something that needs to be done well in advance not to frighten or put people off but in order for everyone to be fully aware of the facts and how the gap can be bridged and narrowed over time .

The number of New Irish on the Island are greater than that of the Unionist population.

Just to give a little perspective on their diminishing numbers.

Ah, so you do want oppression of women!

You didn't answer about the LGBTQ+ community

Bland PR-like statements don't cut it, especially when accompanied by US evangelical style craziness

Nope, I respect how valuable human life is unlike you.

That would obviously explain your support for the PIRA 

Clearly as they were fighting a government that routinely opened fire on unarmed civilians because they were taking to the streets to demand their civil rights.

The free state establishment has much blood on its hands when it comes to the troubles.

Those 644 civilians the PIRA killed were key members of that government of course

The "elite", or something

To cite dead civilians on the streets of Derry as a legitimate justification for 644 other dead civilians is Orwellian

You're pontificating about civilians being killed when you're the only poster on here who defended the IRA that won your rotten state its independence going around murdering civilians.

You are at odds with yourself here, as I predicted, you have routinely shown yourself to be morally bankrupt once again.

So the Republic of Ireland is in your words a "Rotten state"?

Can I take it then you won't want to be a part of a United Ireland then?

You've more in common in denigrating the Republic of Ireland with Jim Alister than you do with me.

A UI doesn't = ROI + NI. I dont want NI to be merged into ROI structures, I want a New Ireland.

You described us in the south as being part of a "rotten state"

Is insulting us part of the grand plan to make us vote for a United ireland after the unity vote is won in the North?

I presumed we were all on the same side,maybe we ain't

Ah, so you do want oppression of women!

You didn't answer about the LGBTQ+ community

Bland PR-like statements don't cut it, especially when accompanied by US evangelical style craziness

Nope, I respect how valuable human life is unlike you.

That would obviously explain your support for the PIRA 

Clearly as they were fighting a government that routinely opened fire on unarmed civilians because they were taking to the streets to demand their civil rights.

The free state establishment has much blood on its hands when it comes to the troubles.

Those 644 civilians the PIRA killed were key members of that government of course

The "elite", or something

To cite dead civilians on the streets of Derry as a legitimate justification for 644 other dead civilians is Orwellian

You're pontificating about civilians being killed when you're the only poster on here who defended the IRA that won your rotten state its independence going around murdering civilians.

You are at odds with yourself here, as I predicted, you have routinely shown yourself to be morally bankrupt once again.

So the Republic of Ireland is in your words a "Rotten state"?

Can I take it then you won't want to be a part of a United Ireland then?

You've more in common in denigrating the Republic of Ireland with Jim Alister than you do with me.

26 Co taxpayers picking up the tab for Nordies again despite all the insults we're so regularly subjected to :

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/1226/1186524-erasmus-northern-ireland/

As a proud UK Citizen I wonder is it still being paid for out of the bailout loan the UK loaned u?

The loan that Irish Taxpayers are paying back to repay the UK owned banks gambling debts incurred here?

The loan that incurred the second highest rate of interest of all banking bailout repayments ?

It's a bit of a sneer from Unionists such as yourself all right which is kinda ironic

Given that

A.We should have let them uk owned subsidiaries burn here and then the Uk taxpayers would have to take up the tab

And

B.NI taxpayers can't fund their own statelet nevermind their greater union as there are recipients of god knows how many billions each year.

Have you paid back the TROIKA yet as well come to think of it. Free state, blueshirt gobshites. Letting Apple & Bill Gates rape & pillage as well. NI will rise again

NI never had anything to rise from in the first place

Away and paint a kerb

26 Co taxpayers picking up the tab for Nordies again despite all the insults we're so regularly subjected to :

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/1226/1186524-erasmus-northern-ireland/

As a proud UK Citizen I wonder is it still being paid for out of the bailout loan the UK loaned u?

The loan that Irish Taxpayers are paying back to repay the UK owned banks gambling debts incurred here?

The loan that incurred the second highest rate of interest of all banking bailout repayments ?

It's a bit of a sneer from Unionists such as yourself all right which is kinda ironic

Given that

A.We should have let them uk owned subsidiaries burn here and then the Uk taxpayers would have to take up the tab

And

B.NI taxpayers can't fund their own statelet nevermind their greater union as there are recipients of god knows how many billions each year.

Being played in horrific conditions

If only they had the largest indoor pitch nearby.........

Limerick claim the Munster U17 title, the machine keeps on turning.............

Their U20s were well beaten by Cork in the semi'. Not a given that the conveyor belt is remorseless as yet..

Cork and Tipp Munster final tomorrow night, Cork really are banking on getting a few players out of this team, so are Tipp, Limerick's need is less as their senior team are a lot younger demographic and they're on top of the pire.

Galway to do battle with Dublin in the same grade in the New year for some reason! Didn't get to see much of either game so can't comment.

Tipp going for 3 in a row of all Ireland's at the u21/20 level,broke cork hearts in the Munster final last year with them getting a goal to win with the last puck of the games,then destroyed them in the first 10 minutes of the all ireland

16 of last years squad available from last year with 4/5 going for 3 all Ireland's

Doubts persist over the management since bevans/Cahill left last year and they were lucky to get over Waterford

Galway Dublin is an interesting one,Galway will start as favorites with a team laden with lads with multiple minor  all Ireland's and Donal O Shea a rock solid freetaker but given the ground conditions in early Jan,I expect a powerful Dublin  outfit to give them buckets of it

Winners of Leinster and Munster play each other 9/10 in the final whether that goes ahead or not is in the lap of the gods