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Yeah, youíre right. It needs to be in the city for concerts as big artists and music lovers wouldnít head to places like Dungannon, Thurles, Punchestown, Stradbally and Slane..... ::)

Not that Iím advocating building the stadium in Dungannon.

The last concert in Thurles was pulled because they couldnít sell enough tickets

Punchestown is also long gone

Slane isnít an annual event

Which leaves Stradbally as the last major annual camping out festival,good luck to you if want to do similar with Dungannon

The reality is that most major concerts are held in city stadia for reasons such as accessibility,size,comfort,bars and concessions

But the stadia are built for sporting reasons and they then compete for concerts.

The sporting rationale for this stadium is stronger outside Belfast. And Belfast already has stadia and outdoor concert venues.


Belfast is the second largest city on the Island,if you want to develop and enhance the GAAs presence in the largest urban centers where letís face it most of the population movement is now to.

You need an adequately developed stadium  in a city environment

Lads suggesting lurgan or Dungannon is the equivalent of not developing Croke park in the 1990ís and moving it out to Newbridge or Portlaoise.

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Yeah, youíre right. It needs to be in the city for concerts as big artists and music lovers wouldnít head to places like Dungannon, Thurles, Punchestown, Stradbally and Slane..... ::)

Not that Iím advocating building the stadium in Dungannon.

The last concert in Thurles was pulled because they couldnít sell enough tickets

Punchestown is also long gone

Slane isnít an annual event

Which leaves Stradbally as the last major annual camping out festival,good luck to you if want to do similar with Dungannon

The reality is that most major concerts are held in city stadia for reasons such as accessibility,size,comfort,bars and concessions

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Absolutely they should get teams up for the opening of it or some other piss about match but not a national final. The supporters of those counties deserve fair access to that game. Not dragged the entire length of the country.

Agree with that. The stadium should be developed to meet a need that is there. Not to move games around that already can be accommodated. I get the point that Clones would need major redevelopment and that is probably not going to happen and itís therefore legitimate to look somewhere else in Ulster for a leading stadium.

Somewhere around Dungannon would probably suit most but itís going to be Casement

By that logic Croke Park should have been put somewhere central like Athlone

No it wouldnít

You want Dungannon because I presume itís central for Ulster

Somewhere in the midlands would be central for the whole of Ireland

Where as best practice would suggest that both stadia need to be in a city location

I canít see a stadium in Dungannon attracting too many corporate events or concerts

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Absolutely they should get teams up for the opening of it or some other piss about match but not a national final. The supporters of those counties deserve fair access to that game. Not dragged the entire length of the country.

Agree with that. The stadium should be developed to meet a need that is there. Not to move games around that already can be accommodated. I get the point that Clones would need major redevelopment and that is probably not going to happen and itís therefore legitimate to look somewhere else in Ulster for a leading stadium.

Somewhere around Dungannon would probably suit most but itís going to be Casement

By that logic Croke Park should have been put somewhere central like Athlone

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Absolutely they should get teams up for the opening of it or some other piss about match but not a national final. The supporters of those counties deserve fair access to that game. Not dragged the entire length of the country.

Agree with that. The stadium should be developed to meet a need that is there. Not to move games around that already can be accommodated. I get the point that Clones would need major redevelopment and that is probably not going to happen and itís therefore legitimate to look somewhere else in Ulster for a leading stadium.

Somewhere around Dungannon would probably suit most but itís going to be Casement

Apart from a Nathan Carter concert who's going to go a gig in Dungannon with very few hotels in the area?

This is a multi functional stadium.......

I wasnít thinking about gigs. How many gigs was Casement planning to hold and how many of these would have been additional gigs for NI (rather than displaced from another venue?)

Condition of the planning is 3 Concerts per year

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Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
« on: October 25, 2020, 05:13:05 PM »
Hard to disagree with any of the above.
We are probably trying to play a game that protects us from big set backs, without maybe having the exact shapes to fit certain holes. We donít have a ready made target man to hold ball up and wait for the cavalry, while being a threat in himself. It was easier to do this in OMP last year than for anyone to do it in CP last night.
I think maybe James Barry and Tipp werenít as sharp as they could have been in countering it second day out last year.

There were some positives, with some excellent scores from distance and quite a few ďline breaksĒ with ball carried and worked through the lines.
In reality it was probably what most of us expected (and the players looked like that too). Maybe bar the second goal.

Itís hard to see us living with any of the Munster teams. We have shipped some bad beatings in these kinda games. Itís a pity our panel isnít as strong as it could be. Laois operating with 75% of the players involved that we want involved is very different to any of the other counties in the same situation.
I get the impression that we wonít be seeing EB on the sideline next year, and I hope some thought has gone into potential replacements. Going back for a ride on the merry ground frightens me.

Eddie will be gone after this season

And no serious manager is going to consider a county where a significant minority wonít commit

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Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
« on: October 25, 2020, 02:20:18 PM »
Agreed. Kavanagh will benefit greatly from that (half) game last night.

On another note it was great for the lads to be back in Croke Park, three Championship games out of the last four games played there - and before that we hadn't a fixture in it for fourteen years!

Also, it will be interesting to see who we get in the qualifiers... does it *have* to be a Munster side? We'd probably hope for Clare out of that group, if so.

Losers of Clare v lk
Losers of cork v Waterford

Losers of tipp v Clare/Lk

We will be facing

Probably in Thurles if its anyone other than Tipp

If our CB were anyway proactive,they should be looking for Portlaoise to host

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 21, 2020, 11:42:24 AM »
Are they going ahead w/ the u20 game tonight?

Yes they are

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Laois / Re: NFL Div 2 2020
« on: October 21, 2020, 10:36:43 AM »
We may not have the players in either football or hurling, but it's a great consolation to know that OMP floodlights are only the very best thanks to the foresight of our wonderful county board. They deserve great credit for getting their priorities right.

Why do you think they are being replaced?.

Would you prefer if there wasnít floodlights in place and they played in the dark?

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 18, 2020, 10:23:40 AM »
Correct and right.
quote author=clonadmad link=topic=26390.msg1999281#msg1999281 date=1602976166]
When this group played Offaly at u14

What did they beat them by?

I heard 52 points of a beating

Is this true

Can anyone confirm?
[/quote]

So a 64 point turnaround in the space of 3 years!!!!!

Any serious hurling county

Management would be lynched and there would be a full scale inquiry as to how this was allowed happen with learnings applied for the future

But this is Laois where indifference reigns

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 18, 2020, 12:09:26 AM »
When this group played Offaly at u14

What did they beat them by?

I heard 52 points of a beating

Is this true

Can anyone confirm?

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 17, 2020, 03:24:20 PM »
Bet by double scores

Another false dawn

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 17, 2020, 03:03:40 PM »
Mine has been excellent quality? Way better than any of Laois TV ones so far. Could just be internet provider?

Back on track now,donít know what it was


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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 17, 2020, 02:35:04 PM »
An absolute shambles of a streaming effort,constantly stalling and breaking down

Not worth the fiver

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