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Laois / Re: Coaching
« on: November 13, 2018, 08:33:46 AM »
Are these coaching courses free of charge or expensive? Maybe some lads are put off by high pricing as in other counties. What is the breakdown of these costs?

Any club that I know will reimburse the course costs

Laois / Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
« on: November 08, 2018, 04:45:59 PM »
The Dubs went on an historical outing. Be clear now, it was an historical outing. Philly McMahon will bring out a book about the trip any day now, explaining about how it affected him deeply, almost as deeply as his brothers heroin addiction. Did you know Phillys brother was an addict? You may not have, he doesn't like to talk about it all that much. But yea, his brother died from drug addiction. True story. Not many people know about it.

Mocking a family that lost a son to heroin addiction?.

mocking a player that spends 2 days of the week free of charge,helping prisoners in mountjoy to break the cycle of incarceration,who works with young people at risk of drugs and gangs?.

You really are a bit of a p***k aren’t you?

Laois / Re: Club Hurling
« on: November 05, 2018, 02:43:42 PM »
When was the last time a Laois club actually won a game in Leinster, at senior level?

Fair play to Portlaoise, though, beating Wicklow senior champions.

Slieve Bloom came asunder, seemingly, after Ben Conroy went off in their Leinster junior game. Unfortunately he's done damage to his knee, so won't be available for club or county for the best part of a year.

One win in the Leinster club Championship in the last 10 years shows exactly where laois ranks in club hurling also.

Sorry to see Camross lose yesterday,would have loved to have seen Ballyhale hand them their arses

Laois / Re: Club Hurling
« on: October 31, 2018, 11:36:48 AM »
A breach of the trade descriptions act calling Scully a referee.

He can hardly claim the the high moral ground seeing as he’s under suspension for lying on his own refs report.

Laois / Re: Club Hurling
« on: October 28, 2018, 02:14:10 PM »

october 28 2018, 12:01am, the sunday times

Camross continue violent streak
denis walsh

Club have dragged Laois hurling into the gutter again but there seems little appetite to do anything about them



In the days after the poisonous Laois county hurling final two photographs from the Camross celebrations emerged on social media. In one of them a Camross player is wearing a hard hat and protective goggles with a hurley held across his chest in heroic pose. The caption on the post reads: “Tooth fairy does what he likes when he likes.”

The other photograph, posted a day later, included the same player with two of his teammates sitting at a bar counter grinning with exaggerated smiles so that you can’t miss their perfect teeth. To grasp the tasteless and provocative nature of the photographs you need to understand the context. In the county final Ross King, a Rathdowney-Errill player, had his mouth smashed by the butt of a hurley. The alleged aggressor appeared in both photographs, although there is no suggestion that he wrote the caption.

In a long, lucid and powerful interview in The Times, Ireland edition on Thursday 1King gave what amounted to a victim impact statement. Two of his teeth are dead and ongoing dental work will cost about €5,000. For more than two weeks he lived on a diet of protein shakes, mashed banana, porridge and scrambled eggs while his mouth slowly recovered; in the process he lost nearly a stone in weight. He couldn’t return to work for more than a week and has missed other days since then for dental appointments.

Club shame: Ross King had his mouth smashed by the butt of a hurley during the Laois county hurling finalmethode%2Fsundaytimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F9a123228-d93a-11e8-9dc6-a299178189bc.jpg?crop=2250%2C1500%2C0%2C0&resize=13701370x913
Club shame: Ross King had his mouth smashed by the butt of a hurley during the Laois county hurling final

“I physically couldn’t speak,” King said to Shane Keegan, The Times columnist and a close friend of King’s. “My lips were kind of stuck together. I had no appetite, no energy and just no interest in anything.”

As captain of the Laois senior team King is a well-known and well-liked figure in Laois GAA and he was touched by the amount of support he received from friends and strangers alike. “One girl sent me a medal to keep me safe,” said King. “Beautiful gestures. But you still can’t help feeling low and you are drained mentally. I’m over a lot of the physical side but the mental side I don’t feel anywhere near over it. I don’t feel that justice has been served after all that’s gone on. It’s just insulting.”

The incident happened as part of a greater melee after which a couple of players were booked but nobody was sent off. Darrell Dooley, the Camross player who struck King, was yellow-carded for another offence in the melee but not for hitting King. When the referee confirmed this to the Laois county board they were at liberty to investigate the King incident; the outcome was a proposed two-match suspension.

Dooley took his case to the Laois Hearings Committee and at the beginning of the week they threw out the proposed suspensions reportedly on the grounds that the video evidence was inconclusive, although no formal statement was issued. A slow motion video of the melee is easy to find on various websites, including Laois Today whose coverage of this story has been comprehensive from the start. You can judge for yourself.

The irony is that Dooley should have been red-carded for wild pulling in the melee, quite apart from the incident with King. He was also involved in a massive flare-up in the semi-final against Borris-Kilcotton in which at least four Camross players should have been sent off, including Dooley. On that occasion nobody was red-carded and the Laois county board failed to hold an investigation afterwards. Video footage of that incident has also been circulated widely on social media.

In the greater debate on violence in the GAA, especially at club level, Camross are an interesting example. When a violent incident occurs there is always a clamour for decisive action and appropriate punishments but how often are consequences equated with solutions? What does punishment achieve without reform?

Look at Camross’ case history. In 1986 they played Clara from Kilkenny in the Leinster club championship, a game that became known as The Battle of Athy. Both clubs were suspended from the Leinster club championship for five years although this was reduced on appeal to three; the upshot was that Camross missed one provincial campaign.

Just three years later two Camross players were given life suspensions, later commuted to two years. One of them returned to captain Camross to win a county title. Seven years after that, in 1996, a county final between Camross and Portlaoise concluded with a free-for-all between supporters of both teams who climbed the wire to enter the field.

In 2005 a county final between Camross and Castletown was blighted by a 15-year-old Camross player being stretchered off the field, apparently unconscious and resulted in suspensions of 48 weeks and 24 weeks for two Camross players — including the stricken boy — and suspensions of 96 weeks and 72 weeks for a Castletown player and water carrier.

When the teams met again a year later two players were sent off, igniting a brawl that involved up to 20 men, including supporters; Garda intervention was needed to restore order. A Camross player and a supporter were both given two year suspensions, the clubs were fined €5,000 each and initially banned from the following year’s championship. After they exhausted the appeals process, including a pitch to the Disputes Resolutions Authority, they appealed for clemency again to the Laois executive.

Independent mediation between the clubs was arranged, the fines were paid, apologies were issued, a joint golf classic was organised in the interests of harmony and the ban was essentially reduced to a suspended sentence. “We’ve also agreed,” said Kieran Delaney, the Camross chairman at the time, “should someone step out of line, they’re on their own. We won’t represent them.”

Has the culture in Camross changed? After they lost to Mount Leinster Rangers in the Leinster club championship last year four of their players were suspended, one of them for two years. Three of those suspensions arose from their behaviour towards match officials.

There may not be a club in the GAA which has attracted more sanctions than Camross and yet bad behaviour has haunted them from one generation to the next. Dooley should have been suspended for his strike on King; Camross should have been hauled over the coals for their part in the semi-final melee. Instead they have dragged Laois club hurling into the gutter again. The Laois county board have been weak and they must carry their share of responsibility.

But without cultural change, nothing changes. Have Camross tackled any of their players about their behaviour in recent weeks? The club secretary was unavailable for comment yesterday.

Laois / Re: Club Hurling
« on: October 26, 2018, 07:34:40 PM »
Anyone else hear the stories coming out from Camrose that D. Dooley was asked not to hurl in the Leinster by management in the wake of the controversy. Seemingly this has led to a players revolt in a "if he doesn't play we won't either" standoff... Hardly ideal preparation for a Leinster run.

A run in Leinster 😂😂😂

If by some fluke they fall over Gorey,they then in all likelihood run into Ballyhale,I’m looking forward to them starting it with the Mullen’s and the Fennelly’s

Laois / Re: Strategic Review of Gaelic Games in Laois 2017
« on: October 26, 2018, 10:28:47 AM »
What is wrong with U17 ? It’s the same competition albeit a year younger.  It takes the vast majority of leaving cert students away from a competitive years football.  The U19 was in theory going to be used to pick county U20 panel so logic was ok.  The fault lies with clubs, we will see what Portlaoise turn up with on Monday for our game but we are ready to go.  I personally think the battle with numbers is being lost far younger in this county.  We have to get back to winning over the 14-16 year olds to playing GAA.  They are being pulled every way and being showed unrealistic promises with soccer and rugby.  It’s ridiculous the chances of playing professionally are well flagged by 13/14 but yet we have parents believing this nonsense.  Your chances of playing County Football and Hurling are a lot greater than other sports and can be leveraged to your professional advantage aka Ciaran Lillis or Joe Canning.  Our problem is not age grades it’s player numbers.

Have you lost many players completely to soccer/rugby,say in the past 5 years?

Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 25, 2018, 09:13:57 PM »
alot of the lads that are saying they shouldnt be let amalgamate are the same people who were giving out that mountrath and trumera arent together, and slieve bloom split from castletown, but when its a genuine threat to the big 4 in laois suddenly its a big issue, i myself cant see it happening considering their is absolutely no links underage between them

Mountrath and Trumera were all set to amalgamate 5/6 years ago and Liam o’Neill buried it on the Trumera side

Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 25, 2018, 01:54:48 PM »
Are ballinakill struggling a bit at underage ? Or are they short on numbers ? Always seems to be talk about them and an amalgamation

having faced them across the grades at juvenile,in the past few years,

they would have 7/8 starters on the minor amalgamation this year with ratheniska and margy the remainder,they would have 16/17 at u15 and probably similar at u13 with the u13's padding out the older age groups number.

they would have some serious quality with the 3 Shaughnesseys at minor and Duggan/Quinlan at u15,Depth would be an issue

Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 25, 2018, 01:49:23 PM »
Under this proposal I can see no reason why a Ballinakill player cannot now play with BallyroanAbbey, if there was an amalgamation.  It may be an unintended consequence as an amalgamation would straddle two parishes.  Note the Ballinakill player would have the option to go to Spink or Ballyroanabbey likewise in the opposite direction.

Im sure,in the event of this amalgamation happening,Spink we would be nailing down an agreement with Crettyard pronto,they are also scouting around for partners in a juvenile amalgamation

Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 25, 2018, 11:40:45 AM »
There’s a rumor going around that Ballinakill and Abbeyleix are in talks about an amalgamation.

Haven’t heard any details other than that,Ballinakill seemingly made the approach

Highly unlikely the CB would let it happen
Underage amalgamation also?

Would this mean Ballinakill footballers would go kick with Ballyroan Abbey?



Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 25, 2018, 11:40:07 AM »
heard that myself, cant see why it wouldnt be let happen vlub wouldnt be any smaller than a borris/kilcotton or a rathdowney/errill or a camross. Would mean that there would be another genuine contender in senior hurling

Would the fact that it’s 2 “senior” clubs combining not make it a runner in the eyes of the CB?

Definitely another genuine contender across all the grades, if it was to happen

Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 25, 2018, 10:45:32 AM »
There’s a rumor going around that Ballinakill and Abbeyleix are in talks about an amalgamation.

Haven’t heard any details other than that,Ballinakill seemingly made the approach

Highly unlikely the CB would let it happen

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2018
« on: October 15, 2018, 10:41:20 AM »
Ricky Maher man of the match in a senior county final, maybe it’s true after all, Portlaoise are that far ahead of everyone that anyone could win a county title on that team.

Jesus that is some begrudgary the day after a county final.

It’s points to an age old problem in Laois first impressions are fact,  this year Ricky got himself in super shape worked hard and shoved it down everyone’s throat.  Actually a lot more the type of personality in Laois that we should be looking for.  I don’t know him from Adam but he should be proud of himself this year and is an example to every young player out there. Nothing like getting rewarded for hard work.

Well said

Laois / Re: Club Hurling
« on: October 11, 2018, 04:57:52 PM »
Thomas Keyes is now officially on the forum 😂😂

He seems to have gone again.  Well he is from Camross and they do seem to be cowardly

Not very wise posting peoples names on forums and social media and assuming its them

I am not Thomas Keyes

LOVEGAA - your comment on cowardly lol you hiding behind a forum, love to know what you have achieved on the field of play or where always the one shouting from a side line??

Some redneck from camross lecturing us on social media and forum etiquette

The Irony

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