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Ah hell why forget about Kerry in the mix

1 Stephen Cluxton
2 Marc O`Se
3 Rory O`Carroll
4 Conor Gormley
5 Tomas O`Se
6 Joe McMahon
7 Philip Jordan
8 Dara O`Se
9 Sean Cavanagh
10 Paul Flynn
11 Dermot Connolly
12 Brian Dooher
13 Colin Cooper
14 Stephen O`Neill
15 Bernard Brogan

Theres a neutral point of view, some close calls with T O`Sullivan, M McCarthy, J McCarthy, B McGuigan, P Gavlin, K Donaghy, A Brogan (done over the past 5 yrs) P Canavan (Also done over the time period Tyrone were going well), now close the thread, its well worn thin

The former Nottingham Forest and Middlesbrough centre half has done very well to get into that team at corner forward. Juninho could have done a job at 11, I think.

Have they always called it the golden boot?

If it's called the Golden Boot, any scores which were not scored with the boot should be taken away. That would rule out O'Connor's shinner goal against Dublin, thus giving the award to Quigley.

Perhaps a separate "Golden Shin" award could be set up for scores obtained by use of the shin, and a separate "Golden Fist" award set up for those horrible handpassed points.

Derry are serial underperformers. Is this likely to change?

Galway are serial underperformers. Is this likely to change?

A lot more likely to change than Derry, I would think.

Wud have both J McMahons ahead of O'Carrol

McCaffery ahead of Jordan 

Brogan ahead of McGuigan? 08 was the best year Brogan was ever having, the Tyrone match told me everything I needed to know about him on a pitch.

i) O'Carroll is comfortably the best full back of this century so far.

ii) McCaffrey has just been named Sunday Game POTY and will go on to become an all-time great. Jordan never came remotely close to being POTY.

iii) A comment which tells me everything I need to know about your football knowledge, ie, there isn't much of it.

For omaghjoe

Exactly, glad you can see what he was at now, he was trying to equate POTY to be the Sunday Game POTY (which it aint).

BTW, thanks for backing me up, I knew you would come around to see things sensibly when you had all the facts  .

8:04 - I see the creche is open early...

Your actually delusional if you think Brogan feigned injury.
He marked far harder and better defenders than Gormley over the years and never took a backward step. He's also still winning All Ireland medals while Gormley is nothing more than a distant memory with a touch of a lingering odour off it.

Let him at it, mate. He'll be telling us the moon landings were faked, the US Government was behind September 11th, and Dublin winning three All-Irelands is a GAA/CIA false flag operation next.

....And that Jack McCaffery is POTY

You really are slow aren't you? He didn't say McCarthy was player of the year. He said that the Sunday game named said he was their player of the year. But sure don't let the truth get in the way if your slagging people off

Player of the Year awards: McCaffrey 1 Jordan 0.

Here's a wee tip, if you are gonna get embroiled in other people's arguments get YOUR facts straight b4 you start with the personal insults

Fitzmaurice is a good manager but no more than that. He's certainly not the genius he's been hailed as.

It's all about narrative.

The narrative last year was that Fitzmaurice pulled a master stroke by bringing on Donaghy in the drawn game with Mayo. The reality was that it was an act of desperation similar to bringing on Galvin in this year's final, but one which got lucky. Donaghy had barely featured all year for Kerry.

The narrative in the final was that his tactics completely neutralised Donegal. The reality was that they got two flukey goals at vital stages - a deflected shot dropping into Geaney's arms and an unforced goalkeeping error from Durcan. If one of those, particlarly the second, hadn't happened Donegal would likely have gone on to win as they'd got to grips with the way Kerry were playing.

Kerry were unbelieveably lucky to win last year's All-Ireland. They got every break going. Keegan getting sent off, Mayo continually making naive tactical mistakes, Enright not being red carded, Aidan O'Shea and Cillian O'Connor crashing into each other, dodgy penalties in the Mayo replay, Dublin being beaten by Donegal, two flukey goals in the final.

Even this year, Kerry were lucky to get to where they got. Cork should certainly have beaten them the first day out and Tyrone could well have put them away with a bit more luck and/or assurance in front of goal.

Your actually delusional if you think Brogan feigned injury.
He marked far harder and better defenders than Gormley over the years and never took a backward step. He's also still winning All Ireland medals while Gormley is nothing more than a distant memory with a touch of a lingering odour off it.

Let him at it, mate. He'll be telling us the moon landings were faked, the US Government was behind September 11th, and Dublin winning three All-Irelands is a GAA/CIA false flag operation next.

Tyrone lost to poor Mayo, Derry, Laois, Meath and Down teams, and took two goes to beat a poor Cavan team. That doesn't sound like greatness to me.

Dublin would have put all of those teams away by at least 15 points.

So many other factors involved you dope! Love posters to embarrassed even to state where they are from with these expert opinions.

As Is aid stupid topic, allows idiots to say stupid things

"You dope"

This is great. Tyrone people are fierce easy to wind up with facts.

Tyrone lost to poor Mayo, Derry, Laois, Meath and Down teams, and took two goes to beat a poor Cavan team. That doesn't sound like greatness to me.

Dublin would have put all of those teams away by at least 15 points.

O'Carroll isn't even the current best full back in his province

is your criteria based on future achievements?

Current achievements, mate.

Player of the Year awards: McCaffrey 1 Jordan 0.

Likewise, with your entire posts to date.
I like A. Brogan TBF and Conor Gormley is a big tough fella. I'd be crying off as well after a few minutes against him, but then Im not in consideration for this XV

Tyrone would know all about crying off against big tough opponents, now. Was it three of them cried off in 1996? I seem to remember Peter Canavan crying off in 2003 when faced with Seamus Moynihan too.

McCaffrey would have to turn in 8 seasons like this year and he might compare. Watch the 05 final again. McGuigan was majestic - comparable to Cooper against Mayo.

By your own logic, then, Alan Brogan would comfortably beat McGuigan. McGuigan had maybe 3/4 good seasons, and it was only really 2005 that he had a great season. Brogan carried poor Dublin teams on his back for years and now has his reward for it.

Wud have both J McMahons ahead of O'Carrol

McCaffery ahead of Jordan 

Brogan ahead of McGuigan? 08 was the best year Brogan was ever having, the Tyrone match told me everything I needed to know about him on a pitch.

i) O'Carroll is comfortably the best full back of this century so far.

ii) McCaffrey has just been named Sunday Game POTY and will go on to become an all-time great. Jordan never came remotely close to being POTY.

iii) A comment which tells me everything I need to know about your football knowledge, ie, there isn't much of it.

A composite Dublin 2011-2015/Tyrone 2003-2008 team would probably look something like as follows:

1. Cluxton
2. McMenamin
3. O'Carroll
4. P. McMahon
5. McCarthy
6. Gormley
7. McCaffrey
8. McAuley
9. Cavanagh
10. Dooher
11. A. Brogan
12. Connolly
13. Canavan
14. O'Neill
15. B. Brogan

9 Dublin 6 Tyrone

Dublin have it.

You left out Brian McGuigan and Jordan.

There are 15 players on a team, not 17.

A composite Dublin 2011-2015/Tyrone 2003-2008 team would probably look something like as follows:

1. Cluxton
2. McMenamin
3. O'Carroll
4. P. McMahon
5. McCarthy
6. Gormley
7. McCaffrey
8. McAuley
9. Cavanagh
10. Dooher
11. A. Brogan
12. Connolly
13. Canavan
14. O'Neill
15. B. Brogan

9 Dublin 6 Tyrone

Dublin have it.

Footballer of the Year.