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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: Today at 07:07:02 PM »
There is just pure racism going on in this forum now and the constant reference to someone's skin colour.
Interesting that on a GAA forum, the poster in question hasn't made a single post on a GAA-related matter.

I'd hate to speculate that said poster is only on here to engage in shameless far right trolling, but said poster is definitely only here to engage in shameless far right trolling.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: Today at 05:43:43 PM »
No surprise to see the forum's resident racist in chief portraying a black president as sub human.


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A country’s government will say they are so happy being in the EU, but the people think differently. The Lisbon Treaty being the perfect example.

For all this EU arselicking from Dublin, a lot of ordinary  Irish people don’t like or trust the EU.

Fake news.
https://www.europeanmovement.ie/programmes/ireland-and-the-eu-poll/

A country’s government will say they are so happy being in the EU, but the people think differently. The Lisbon Treaty being the perfect example.

For all this EU arselicking from Dublin, a lot of ordinary  Irish people don’t like or trust the EU.

Fake news.
https://www.europeanmovement.ie/programmes/ireland-and-the-eu-poll/
Vested interest lobby group commissions poll that gives it the result to justify its agenda shocker.
I never had you pegged for a conspiracy theorist, but that suggestion is wacky. The poll was done by Red C. Do you really imagine they would fake a poll? And fake such a huge margin of consensus?

Everybody who wants Ireland to leave the EU is a conspiracy theorist on some level.

It goes with the territory.


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General discussion / Re: Islamic Jihadists ISIS
« on: February 15, 2019, 02:17:01 PM »
Question - for anyone wanting to take her back.

Would you be happy if she moved into your street for your child to grow up playing/hanging out etc with your child or indeed for her to start hanging out with your children?

No, but that's not the point, is it?

The problem here is that everything is slightly complicated by teeny weeny things like laws and rights.

Im not questioning the laws or rights - simply asking how people would feel about it and if you would be happy?
Grand so.

We've established her legal rights should be upheld, and the law should be upheld.

And that's basically the end of the thread.

So would you be happy if she was moved in to your street? Simple question Sid
No, of course not - but that has absolutely no bearing as to whether she should be allowed to move to my street - if I lived in the UK, of course, which I don't.

There are many people I'd rather didn't live beside me - some of them are even on this forum.

I'd absolutely hate it if Stephen Yaxley-Lennon moved into the house next to me, for instance. That doesn't mean he shouldn't have the right to move into the house next to me, or that I think he should be locked up without due process.

Not liking somebody is not a basis for locking them up or denying them their legal rights.

And it is sort of a shame to have to explain that.

No I get what you are saying however it does go some way to explain the opposition to her getting back in.

Fear of moving close to you/me etc
Fear of attempting to brainwash those she comes in contact with or young impressionable people.
Fear of housing other like minded individuals.
Fear of a lone wolf attack.

Simply because she holds a passport doesnt make it right that she should get back in
The UK has to have a duty of care for its citizens. It is absolutely right that she should get back in and then let due process do the rest.

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General discussion / Re: Islamic Jihadists ISIS
« on: February 15, 2019, 02:02:00 PM »
Question - for anyone wanting to take her back.

Would you be happy if she moved into your street for your child to grow up playing/hanging out etc with your child or indeed for her to start hanging out with your children?

No, but that's not the point, is it?

The problem here is that everything is slightly complicated by teeny weeny things like laws and rights.

Im not questioning the laws or rights - simply asking how people would feel about it and if you would be happy?
Grand so.

We've established her legal rights should be upheld, and the law should be upheld.

And that's basically the end of the thread.

So would you be happy if she was moved in to your street? Simple question Sid
No, of course not - but that has absolutely no bearing as to whether she should be allowed to move to my street - if I lived in the UK, of course, which I don't.

There are many people I'd rather didn't live beside me - some of them are even on this forum.

I'd absolutely hate it if Stephen Yaxley-Lennon moved into the house next to me, for instance. That doesn't mean he shouldn't have the right to move into the house next to me, or that I think he should be locked up without due process.

Not liking somebody is not a basis for locking them up or denying them their legal rights.

And it is sort of a shame to have to explain that.




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General discussion / Re: Islamic Jihadists ISIS
« on: February 15, 2019, 01:24:22 PM »
Question - for anyone wanting to take her back.

Would you be happy if she moved into your street for your child to grow up playing/hanging out etc with your child or indeed for her to start hanging out with your children?

No, but that's not the point, is it?

The problem here is that everything is slightly complicated by teeny weeny things like laws and rights.

Im not questioning the laws or rights - simply asking how people would feel about it and if you would be happy?
Grand so.

We've established her legal rights should be upheld, and the law should be upheld.

And that's basically the end of the thread.

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General discussion / Re: Islamic Jihadists ISIS
« on: February 15, 2019, 01:21:04 PM »
Question - for anyone wanting to take her back.

Would you be happy if she moved into your street for your child to grow up playing/hanging out etc with your child or indeed for her to start hanging out with your children?

Of course they would. This is an internet forum where you can claim to support a whole world of different views and opinions without actually having to carry out any significant action in the real world.
We're obviously dealing with an intellectual powerhouse here, folks.


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General discussion / Re: Islamic Jihadists ISIS
« on: February 15, 2019, 01:13:37 PM »
Did she? I mean legally, did she join a terrorist organisation? Can you prove it? Define "joined"?

If you can prove it, what are the consequences? Strip her of her passport and citizenship? Is that legal? Don't let her back in? Where does she go when the Syrians don't want her?

So many questions and nuances that people conveniently ignore.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/14/london-schoolgirl-who-fled-to-join-isis-wants-to-return-to-uk

Direct Quote -

“Mostly it was a normal life in Raqqa, every now and then bombing and stuff,” she said. “But when I saw my first severed head in a bin it didn’t faze me at all. It was from a captured fighter seized on the battlefield, an enemy of Islam.”

Indefensible.

What crime do you want to prosecute her for here? Being a horrible ****?

A chap in Dublin recently filmed a severed head after a car crash and shared it around the internet for kicks.

That wasn't a very nice thing to do but hardly deserving of stripping somebody of their citizenship or throwing them out of the country.

I don't want her stripped of a passport or citizenship. I just don't want her walking the streets of Britain or Europe for that matter.
You're either for due process or you aren't.

If you're against due process, that opens up, to quote somebody somewhere, "an appalling vista".

I am not. If she makes her way home. I'd expect her to be arrested, questioned and only released if she was willing to reject ISIS and it terrorism. Which she shows no signs of.

I cannot and will not support terrorism. I find it shocking the amount on this board who do.
Who on this board supports terrorism?

You've just made clear you support making up your own arbitrary laws and the operation of a literal thought police.

That's actual fascism.

Lol - thought police, fascism.
She's a Jihadi bride. She's openly admitted this.
As far as I'm aware the term "Jihadi bride" doesn't carry any legal weight.

Perhaps you thought Bobby Sands' wife should have been locked up without trial too?

Having thought police is the very definition of fascism. The right to privately hold any sort of crazy opinion is the mark of a free society.

It's not illegal to think anything.

One can think that all Unionists should be exterminated so as to force a united Ireland. That's not illegal.

One can think that all Catholics should be exterminated so as that there is no prospect of a united Ireland ever happening. That's not illegal.

One could think that Donald Trump should obliterate Mexico with nuclear weapons. It still wouldn't be illegal.

Wouldn't you agree?

Now, if a person goes around publicly broadcasting these opinions, then it becomes a different matter because there is such a thing as hate speech laws, and rightly so.

But it's not a crime to think anything.

Publicly broadcasting that you think it should be, as you are doing, amounts to actual fascist extremism - you'd have loved the Gestapo and Stalin's secret police.

What are you on about?
If you're having to ask that question, you'd probably be best off not posting on the thread anymore.


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General discussion / Re: Islamic Jihadists ISIS
« on: February 15, 2019, 01:04:33 PM »
Did she? I mean legally, did she join a terrorist organisation? Can you prove it? Define "joined"?

If you can prove it, what are the consequences? Strip her of her passport and citizenship? Is that legal? Don't let her back in? Where does she go when the Syrians don't want her?

So many questions and nuances that people conveniently ignore.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/14/london-schoolgirl-who-fled-to-join-isis-wants-to-return-to-uk

Direct Quote -

“Mostly it was a normal life in Raqqa, every now and then bombing and stuff,” she said. “But when I saw my first severed head in a bin it didn’t faze me at all. It was from a captured fighter seized on the battlefield, an enemy of Islam.”

Indefensible.

What crime do you want to prosecute her for here? Being a horrible ****?

A chap in Dublin recently filmed a severed head after a car crash and shared it around the internet for kicks.

That wasn't a very nice thing to do but hardly deserving of stripping somebody of their citizenship or throwing them out of the country.

I don't want her stripped of a passport or citizenship. I just don't want her walking the streets of Britain or Europe for that matter.
You're either for due process or you aren't.

If you're against due process, that opens up, to quote somebody somewhere, "an appalling vista".

I am not. If she makes her way home. I'd expect her to be arrested, questioned and only released if she was willing to reject ISIS and it terrorism. Which she shows no signs of.

I cannot and will not support terrorism. I find it shocking the amount on this board who do.
Who on this board supports terrorism?

You've just made clear you support making up your own arbitrary laws and the operation of a literal thought police.

That's actual fascism.

Lol - thought police, fascism.
She's a Jihadi bride. She's openly admitted this.
As far as I'm aware the term "Jihadi bride" doesn't carry any legal weight.

Perhaps you thought Bobby Sands' wife should have been locked up without trial too?

Having thought police is the very definition of fascism. The right to privately hold any sort of crazy opinion is the mark of a free society.

It's not illegal to think anything.

One can think that all Unionists should be exterminated so as to force a united Ireland. That's not illegal.

One can think that all Catholics should be exterminated so as that there is no prospect of a united Ireland ever happening. That's not illegal.

One could think that Donald Trump should obliterate Mexico with nuclear weapons. It still wouldn't be illegal.

Wouldn't you agree?

Now, if a person goes around publicly broadcasting these opinions, then it becomes a different matter because there is such a thing as hate speech laws, and rightly so.

But it's not a crime to think anything.

Publicly broadcasting that you think it should be, as you are doing, amounts to actual fascist extremism - you'd have loved the Gestapo and Stalin's secret police.





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General discussion / Re: The promotion of families in Europe
« on: February 15, 2019, 12:49:51 PM »
doubt you'll see it from the Rep party in USA either

You’ll not see it anywhere. Vaccines, abortion, one/child policy are the order of the day.

Some cynics believe that the promotion of abortion for women in western civiliations is linked to the reluctance of multi-nationals to spend money on maternity leave and related benefits. The less kids the more chance they will stay at work.

Governments don't care about the family structure anymore, as long as they get their cut. Very few media outlets ever talk about it.

A testosterone driven alpha male like yourself there Dolph must have some size of brood ready to keep topping up the pension pots for half of the US, no?
Such an "alpha male" that he's begging the government to help him out in his doomed quest to ever have sexual intercourse.

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General discussion / Re: Islamic Jihadists ISIS
« on: February 15, 2019, 12:28:56 PM »
Did she? I mean legally, did she join a terrorist organisation? Can you prove it? Define "joined"?

If you can prove it, what are the consequences? Strip her of her passport and citizenship? Is that legal? Don't let her back in? Where does she go when the Syrians don't want her?

So many questions and nuances that people conveniently ignore.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/14/london-schoolgirl-who-fled-to-join-isis-wants-to-return-to-uk

Direct Quote -

“Mostly it was a normal life in Raqqa, every now and then bombing and stuff,” she said. “But when I saw my first severed head in a bin it didn’t faze me at all. It was from a captured fighter seized on the battlefield, an enemy of Islam.”

Indefensible.

What crime do you want to prosecute her for here? Being a horrible ****?

A chap in Dublin recently filmed a severed head after a car crash and shared it around the internet for kicks.

That wasn't a very nice thing to do but hardly deserving of stripping somebody of their citizenship or throwing them out of the country.

I don't want her stripped of a passport or citizenship. I just don't want her walking the streets of Britain or Europe for that matter.
You're either for due process or you aren't.

If you're against due process, that opens up, to quote somebody somewhere, "an appalling vista".

I am not. If she makes her way home. I'd expect her to be arrested, questioned and only released if she was willing to reject ISIS and it terrorism. Which she shows no signs of.

I cannot and will not support terrorism. I find it shocking the amount on this board who do.
Who on this board supports terrorism?

You've just made clear you support making up your own arbitrary laws and the operation of a literal thought police.

That's actual fascism.

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General discussion / Re: Islamic Jihadists ISIS
« on: February 15, 2019, 11:39:56 AM »
Did she? I mean legally, did she join a terrorist organisation? Can you prove it? Define "joined"?

If you can prove it, what are the consequences? Strip her of her passport and citizenship? Is that legal? Don't let her back in? Where does she go when the Syrians don't want her?

So many questions and nuances that people conveniently ignore.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/14/london-schoolgirl-who-fled-to-join-isis-wants-to-return-to-uk

Direct Quote -

“Mostly it was a normal life in Raqqa, every now and then bombing and stuff,” she said. “But when I saw my first severed head in a bin it didn’t faze me at all. It was from a captured fighter seized on the battlefield, an enemy of Islam.”

Indefensible.

What crime do you want to prosecute her for here? Being a horrible ****?

A chap in Dublin recently filmed a severed head after a car crash and shared it around the internet for kicks.

That wasn't a very nice thing to do but hardly deserving of stripping somebody of their citizenship or throwing them out of the country.

I don't want her stripped of a passport or citizenship. I just don't want her walking the streets of Britain or Europe for that matter.
You're either for due process or you aren't.

If you're against due process, that opens up, to quote somebody somewhere, "an appalling vista".

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General discussion / Re: Islamic Jihadists ISIS
« on: February 15, 2019, 11:23:23 AM »
Did she? I mean legally, did she join a terrorist organisation? Can you prove it? Define "joined"?

If you can prove it, what are the consequences? Strip her of her passport and citizenship? Is that legal? Don't let her back in? Where does she go when the Syrians don't want her?

So many questions and nuances that people conveniently ignore.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/14/london-schoolgirl-who-fled-to-join-isis-wants-to-return-to-uk

Direct Quote -

“Mostly it was a normal life in Raqqa, every now and then bombing and stuff,” she said. “But when I saw my first severed head in a bin it didn’t faze me at all. It was from a captured fighter seized on the battlefield, an enemy of Islam.”

Indefensible.

What crime do you want to prosecute her for here? Being a horrible ****?

A chap in Dublin recently filmed a severed head after a car crash and shared it around the internet for kicks.

That wasn't a very nice thing to do but hardly deserving of stripping somebody of their citizenship or throwing them out of the country.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: February 13, 2019, 10:55:44 PM »

The GOP shafts its voters
40% of americans couldn't raise USD 400 for an medical emergency
A green new deal would generate decent jobs
Trump hasn't generated many of those
Neither does the NRA
Untrue. The NRA generates many jobs.

Undertakers, grave diggers and coffin makers, for instance.

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GAA Discussion / Re: The Patronising Dublin Fan Thread
« on: February 12, 2019, 04:46:00 PM »
Certainly we would like to win the League but Monaghan were very good and even Fento was overwhelmed and if we don't make the final it could mean that we don't win Sam
At this stage all Dublin supporters would be happy to just avoid relegation, truth be told.

That defeat in the O'Byrne Cup final has, as I predicted, destroyed the myth of invincibility surrounding this Dublin team.

With Mayo flying at the moment, we'll find it very difficult to avoid being in the drop zone after the next roound of fixtures.

Unlike Mayo, Tyrone, Roscommon and Cavan, this Dublin team have no experience of being involved in a relegation battle - and that's what makes the prospect very dangerous.

If the players start thinking they're too good to go down, they could end up doing just that.

If Mayo win at Croke Park on February 23rd, it may be time to say goodbye to Jim Gavin and hello to Sam Allardyce.

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