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So who dropped out for McCloskey to come in?

Would have to assume Hamill? What about Barry McFall? Where is this info from - could someone list the team?

I would say Hamill or micko are looking over the shoulders. how many shams trained last night

DD and Eddie are the only starters for Loughgiel. McGourty back in. Gettins wing back and Karl S and Shorty in Midfield

What was wrong with McGourty last week?

No idea

Calf injury im led to believe.

didnt know he kept beast was it a wee sharly, tell him not to stand behind it when its feeding

Marty wont be playing, Mick in full forward? Shane McNaughton (one of our best forwards) in midfield? Come on MR2 try again

Shane in midfield for me to, he,s industrious and can pop them over form that range all day. hes only in the forwards because we have no options. I think dinny played him there with karl at CF. micko not going well at the moment.

welcome to the board shamrock

Div2 hurling in Tipp etc. would be of a  higher standard than in Antrim I would have thought.

Middletown Armagh beat the Munster champions, a Limerick Div 2 team. Would you have thought that Limerick Div 2 was better than Antrim Div 2?

We beat the Galway Intermediate champions, does that mean we (Antrim) is better than all those teams?

Bushwacker, think before you post please.

Getting carried away here, we were talking about Antrim's performance yesterday and all of a sudden Loughgiel will beat county teams, their reserve players should be on the county team, and Div 2/3 players are crap and shouldn't be on the team!!!! WTF I took on a lot of sun yesterday and head/dome slightly burnt but some guys out there are delirious!!

Anyways, Limerick next. Will Antrim have their main players back? If they do, by the posts on here, we should hammer them considering what Loughgiel did to their best club team

+1 on all the above,  I hope we have w**ker and eddie,dd back  for limerick as offlay done us a favour. I would be quite happy to stay in division 1b anyway unless some louhgeil reserve's commit to the panel then we could give kilkenny and tipp a good rattle in 1a LOL

Do you mean to say that Joey would struggle in a county team made up of mostly Div 2 and 3 players.I think that's our problem we need to bring in more Div1 players.I  don't see how Div.2 and 3 players can be up to it,given the standard of opposition they meet week after week. Do you think the county team would beat Loughgiel ?

dont know if he would struggle this time round or not but hes had his chances in the past. imm game on for giving him another shot but if you cant accept hes up against better players at county level. by the way tipp and kilkenny play division 2 and three players so thats sorted that theory. Imm glad your not our intercounty manager. I hope you get loughgeil when pj steps down, will give the rest of us a better chance

From what I've been told the sooner the shams are back in the fold the better. They will be back, but there should be more of them in the panel. If Ronan McCloskey isn't called up and given a chance it'll be a travesty. Like his brother Eddie a great man blocking and running with the ball.

You weren't at the match then? Corner back wasn't the problem.

The main thing for me was this, very simple too. Laois played the extra man in defence, the Antrim management could not figure out what to f**king do!!! Laois won all breaking ball and took their scores when they had the chance. Hippy didn't know where to be positioned and got lost, ball was going out to the wings and they made the most of the ball going in.

I can't get it when managers don't have plans in place when a tactic is being used by the other team, they continued to let Hippy do what he was doing. The other thing is this, while it worked in the end, humping long ball into a big fullforward is, in my view, dung.

Second half, Antrim played so different the passion for winning the ball was great, McFaul was great when he came on the second time, took his scores well. They made McManus the spare man and moved him up field putting Laois on the back foot, they did fcuk all also!! until it was too late and we were back in the game.

Strange game, dull first half hate talking about players but (and i wont) we are carrying some players who started today for sure

SIE, you can't put club game performances on a par to county game performances. I'm sorry but don't let that judge your ideas on what's best for the county team

spot on mr2, the sweeper left hippy all at sea(not his fault), the ball going in to forwards was dung but they where not moving much. I thought they should have tried some shooting from middle and half forward line or even running at them but those balls going in was giving me heartburn ffs. easy to blame the sideline but the shape laois where playing was hard to counteract. won the toss move a man back and shoot from far out with the wind. there first goal was a fumbling mistake from goalie. at least they did something at the break. I was tullamore last weekend and same thing we hit two points from play went 12 points down in second half and then started hurling. cant get my head round it

SIE joeys hard a fair few cracks at this level and struggled I'm afraid

From what I've been told the sooner the shams are back in the fold the better. They will be back, but there should be more of them in the panel. If Ronan McCloskey isn't called up and given a chance it'll be a travesty. Like his brother Eddie a great man blocking and running with the ball.

big time we need the shams back and if young mc closkey was the corner back he deserves a crack after his performance last weekend, him hippy and graffin is a good full back line

North Antrim Hound............The only way you can get back at Loughgiel and Liam Watson for being winners is by harping back to former winners and players.Birr et. al. were brilliant teams in their day,as they proved when they hammered Antrim teams time after time.But they're not there any more.You've joined the ever growing band of "aye buts" who never expected Antrim to produce champions again,and from your posts you are obviously sorry it was Loughgiel that came up with the goods.
You try to damn the Shamrocks with faint praise before launching in to tiresome stories about All-Stars and teams of the past.
Loughgiel beat all Ulster,Leinster and Munster had to offer,sorry there were no Ballyhales or Birrs,they were stuffed earlier in the competition.Get over it and try to hide you're unhealthy bias against a bloody good team who don't give a toss what you think.
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dont be sorry there where no ballyhales or birr teams be glad.

hwos getting back at liam watson did you read my post. thats the problem with posting in these things, some clown doesnt read it right and then repsonds with something completely different.

SIE sorry if i caused any offence, shamrocks have the cup thats all that matters. no need to defend you fellow clubmen when there on here commenting on other club teams that where better than coolderry. your right this a is a liam watson thread so tell bushwanker

Tony Baloney........S..t stirring again. Or is nostalgia getting the better of you again.Birr, Athenry,Ballyhale,Portumna.....their cumbersome style of hurling doesn't hack it in the new modern age.New kids on the block mate,Cooldeery would have beaten those Dunloy or Dall teams by a bagful. Those old teams are no longer in the mix,they don't count any more.They come from a time when speed an fitness was of secondary importance, that's why they get thrashed by the new top teams.This Loughgiel team would destroy any team that ever got to a club final.......as I say,put nostalgia away this is 2012 not 1994.......new kids on the block.

wow man your know your hurling, coolderry better than birr(nine all stars on that team and a county goalie 'Brian mullans' not some youngster complete out of his depth and didn't even take his coat off.
better than portuma, probably the best ever club team ever to lift hurls(altough just 3 all stars on that team)
better than ballyhale(shefflin,cha etc)
fair fcuks to loughgeil, ten out of ten for timing no big heavy hitters out at the moment tony baloney spot on here.

time for the sour grapes and 'aye but' replies instead of some serious facts. no need to say you don't care what we think 'thou dost protest to much'

I thought this thread was about Liam Watson, i thought he was magnificent last week, as good as you will see but he still has a bit to do at county level before he can be mentioned in the same breath as Whelahan(birr) canning brothers(portumna) or shefflin(ballyhale). I hope he kicks on and does it. lets hope his shots are more accurate than you ramblings

Just watched the game again, with no distractions. couple of points: Loughgiel were cleaned out in midfield, Barney had his worst game of the year. Bar McCloskey in the HF line they were cleaned out there also. Joe Brady played better today (on replay) than i thought he did yesterday. Liam never touched leather from play until the 17th minute. and not again till the last few minutes. Not like him. The Loughgiel defence was immense throughout the game, and for me was the reason they won the match.

Coolderry had the lions share of possession in this game but could not create a goal opportunity bar the easy stop DD had to do in the second half.

As we all know goals win games, and Winker was outstanding when the opportunity came. the first goal, he started the move with a great handpass out to Casey and like a great forward followed it up by running into the danger area. His second was something we see at juvenile games when the best player has a pop at goal when you think he's going for a point, when hit right, they always go in. The 3rd goal was pure genius, kept his eye on the ball the whole time and showed a bit of bravery in tucking it away.

The Coolderry keeper was dung in fairness, should have come for Winkers 3rd goal and handling errors throughout the game.

I'm not being negative by the way lads, shows that Loughgiel still have room for improvement for next season which is worrying for the rest.

The midfielder brought on Dobbin, seemed a bit out of his depth and could have got a second yellow. Loughgiel did well and didn't panic at the start of the second half when they managed 5 scores,  which was the difference in the end.

that's a very accurate assessment, agree on all points the combination of a very poor goalkeeper(and dodgy full back line) and on currant form the best forward in ireland was the difference. I think eddy mc closkeys contribution in the first half was vital to the half time cushion

Fir fox ache, seems I am going to have to apologise according to Loughgiel guestbook.  Do mesel a favour Ffa,  maybe I should make mesel scarce?  I didna maen ta cause embarrassment. 

is that an apology then, accepted as long as you f**k off now and don't come back. (where ever your from)

Try to trivialise this if you want to,but your corner boy attitude would indicate clearly where you come from.Adults and children were involved in making an erecting these decorations,these low life scumbags even tore the decorations from the school,do think that funny ?....I'm sure the kids don't today.I've watched you all trying to be clever on this forum for the past few weeks talking nonsense about topics that nobody cares about,except you 3 or 4,with badly thought out (and spelt) posts
Get a life and stop trying to make little of someone with a genuine grievance.

I've watched you all trying to be clever on this forum for the past few weeks talking nonsense about topics that nobody cares about

what does this mean, what an idiotic statement. The basis of a discussion forum is that someone can register on it bring up a topic and other people do or don't reply to it. As this thread was started and called antrim hurling and most of the topics are related to this whats the problem. The most irritating thing on here this last few days has been some clown from your own club insulting everybody in fairness hes not trying to hard to be clever. you don't seem to have any gripes about him. That's about the only subject on here I would say I've read and don't care about. For the benefit of yourself we will all use layman terminology and simple writing in case we perceived as trying to be clever. I'm going to hit the spell check now, we wouldn't want to spell something wrong. NO need to respond as I'm sure  you see this as a topic that you don't and care about and I'm trying to be clever

That's a fantastic point n_a_h -- remind u of Ur own north Antrim?

Particularly since it's exactly how most of the dual clubs think about loughiel & cushendall!
It's precisely the same!
Any wonder why we've had the county final repeated between these two clubs?

If u think about it they should be ashamed if a dual club gets close up them - never mind beats them!

I know its having an effect on my club at underage (E.G our minors hardly get any training once all the south west leagues kick in and LG the Dall etc can train the lads two.three times a week). I'm diplomatic enough to suggest that until vast majorities don't want dual status then things should stay the same but both codes are getting higher in standard every year and dual clubs are at a disadvantage unless you have a Huge catchment to facilitate each one. Back to kilkenny they have the same population as Antrim, Demographics (65% of antrim are not nationlist, and a large portion that are play football), so lets throw up a hypothetical scenario where the said portions are culled from the cats panel I think our boys would give them a run for there money.

I know this view is going to be met with some dismissal, but i think killkennys standard in football takes away some of the credit of there hurling success. Imagine how your county would do if they focused solely on one discipline. In kilkenny anybody who has in intrest in anything other than hurling is frowned upon, from an early age they are encouraged to pursue only thing for a good reason in there eyes. every thing else can have a detrimental effect on there preferred code. The press and great for eulogies and praise for there manager and hurlers without the consideration they have a serious advantage over the opposition in this respect

Just posted this over on a thread about kilkenny football, after there u21s  mauling by louth the other night fermanagh gave there Seniors a 46 point drubbing today. I have always been of the opinion that if antrim was a one trick pony as well we could have landed at least one all ireland by now. This is not a crack at our football brethren as they are quite right to follow there respective passion just an observation.

I know this view is going to be met with some dismissal, but i think killkennys standard in football takes away some of the credit of there hurling success. Imagine how your county would do if they focused solely on one discipline. In kilkenny anybody who has in intrest in anything other than hurling is frowned upon, from an early age they are encouraged to pursue only thing for a good reason in there eyes. every thing else can have a detrimental effect on there preferred code. The press and great for eulogies and praise for there manager and hurlers without the consideration they have a serious advantage over the opposition in this respect